prosper202 and their bizop pushing plan

momchil9 said:
Limited, as T202 and leads202 the same + more features. That's what I meant.

Also there are a lot more "switches" in cpv lab. I'm not saying they are absolutely necessary, but they are not present in prosper. Don't get me wrong. Prosper202 is fine software, I don't have problems with the software itself. I did everything I needed and still does. Everything that I might need in future is probably delivered through leads202.

free vs. freemium:



That is what fremium means. Some features are unlocked after you pay for them. YOU DON'T GET TO BLAST EMAILS MARKETING 3RD PARTY STUFF. That is the model you chose, stick with it.

Do you agree that prosper202 is a showcase for tracking202, leads202, whatever other software they have and their services?

See, I didn't make this thread when they emailed me with their VIP packages(they connect you with potential advertisers). They probably take a fee from the advertiser, with which I have nothing against. They are marketing their own stuff.

I made this thread after they raped my email with stupid crap, and using sneak oil tactics. They should have known better. <- that is my whole point.

I expected more professional attitude from them.

When you showcase your professionalism through a free product, you don't do stupid shit like that, because you lose your potential clients, because you lose your credibility.

Maybe that is why people switch to other solutions when they go big, instead of upgrading to their paid products.

Food for thought?
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I see where you're coming from. Personally I don't see p202 as a way for them to "push" the more paid products directly (though I'm sure that is the main focus in general). I see it just as a way to get their brand recognition up in front of other people. I've never seen an ad from them on the paid products or any products in general, so I must have a little different of a view towards it.

But then again, pushing 3rd party products that may not jive well with their "clientbase" is completely on them. I wouldn't do it, but when you've got a product that's widely accepted and has no ... let's say, up front monetization module that's statistically significant than sometimes you have to figure out other ways. Not saying theirs isn't or they needed something else as I don't know their financials or anything in depth behind their offering, all I know is they give away a product for free that used to not even cost me my e-mail address. Now it does, and I'm still fine with it.

But the bottom line is everyone views things differently. Both from the client & the provider side. I don't think you're wrong, but I also don't think they are. And most importantly I'm not in a position to judge whether anyone is wrong or not in this situation.

My 2 cents.
 


eVandals said:
You aren't a paying customer, you haven't paid anything. At the most you'd be a prospective customer. This is why it's annoying to me you are bitching so much about their decisions on monetization, because you are NOT a paying customer yet you've been benefiting from their free product.
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you jsut keep typing the same bullshit. You either don't read what I've posted, or just ignore it.

In both cases, it's stupid.

Bofu2U,

But the bottom line is everyone views things differently.
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Yes, totally agree. I see things this way, and I said why I think that way. Everyone can think for themselves and should do what they think is the right thing to do. I did what is the right thing for me.

I could just unsubscribe and keep using it, but I think that's not the right thing to do.

I created the thread just as a personal view and for some people to think about this casus.
 
momchil9 said:
you jsut keep typing the same bullshit. You either don't read what I've posted, or just ignore it.

In both cases, it's stupid.
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I've read over what you've have to say and I get your overall point of not wanting to be spammed, but I've given little credence to it because of your unappreciative demeanor. If you cannot soak in the idea that you appear like a bottom feeding ingrate ranting and berating a product that you've directly benefited from, which you've paid nothing for, then that's that.

I doubt most t202 users want to be spammed with regurgitated bizop promos, but if that helps 202 pay their bills and expand their product which continues to be offered for free, that's their decision and their prerogative. Most of the reasonable people in this thread have proclaimed 202 could send out viagra and they would gladly just ignore it because they value what the software has done for us at no cost. You seem to be missing that sort of appreciation.
 
Utterly flawed logic.

I said why, you just "read over" it, that's why I will not repeat myself.
 
momchil9 said:
Utterly flawed logic.

I said why, you just "read over" it, that's why I will not repeat myself.
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The logic is pretty strong that you do not appreciate developers who create and maintain products for you to benefit from and use for free.

You've say "why"? Why what? What the fuck are you talking about?

I've unfortunately "read over" every word of text you've written in this thread. None of your complaining or explaining does anything to refute that you're an ingrate.
 
you can't grasp the simple fact that it is not a giveaway. It is free because it is a showcase for a paid products.

I'm done arguing with you, as you just type the same shit again and again and I've promised to myself that I will not get mad over stupid fucks like you any more.

It's like Oracle blasting emails to mysql users promoting some web development company, instead of promoting Oracle DB.
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You play LoL, right? What would you think if Riot blasted your email with clickbank strategy guides about WoW and toolbars every week?
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So simple, are you that stupid, that you can't understand it?
 
inb4 CPVLab sends out a link to webinar

so you think Prosper202 shouldn't be able to do 3rd party promotions (ie affiliate) since they have a premium offering?
 
Garrett said:
inb4 CPVLab sends out a link to webinar

so you think Prosper202 shouldn't be able to do 3rd party promotions (ie affiliate) since they have a premium offering?
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yep, pretty much.

now, no matter what your opinion on this matter is,

THANK YOU FOR READING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT I SAID.

People like you are not a lot around these lands, it seems.
 
i disabled the ads on my [hosted] prosper like a year ago....dont have time to look at the ads anyway when im analyzing profit margins on 10 different offers
 
momchil9 they Also don't give out support for p202 users. If you need help with install or having an issue, you will have to ask other users rather then contacting t202 team.

T202 will only will help if you if you pay for support,.
Just saying.


shawnhag said:
i disabled the ads on my [hosted] prosper like a year ago....dont have time to look at the ads anyway when im analyzing profit margins on 10 different offers
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I've done that also. Just bypass adverts on first page,

go and edit 202-login.php

line 80: header(‘location: /202-account’); to
header(‘location: /tracking202′ ); or /tracking202/spy/
 
Pray do tell, how did this moron, get to 600 posts in this joint??? The place has gone to the dogs.....the dogs I tell ya!
 
Definition of GIVEAWAY

1
: an unintentional revelation or betrayal

2
a : something given away free; specifically :1d b : the act of giving something away free <staging a promotional giveaway>


I have never bothered with any paid products of theirs or responded to their newsletters, so for all intents and purposes it is a giveaway. They gave me something for free, so by any practical definition of giveaway, what else could it be?

No one has to adhere to the definition of a "freemium" model or choose how they conduct their business by such labels, especially not by the words of a two bit clown like you. You say "YOU DON'T GET TO BLAST EMAILS MARKETING 3RD PARTY STUFF" Oh really? Who the fuck are you to dictate what a business can and cannot do? If 202 wants to send out bizops and webinars while offering premium upgrades they can do so freely. I wish them success.

I am done arguing as well and I view you as a new breed of losers around here.
 
It is not for free if their intention is to advertise their paid products, moron.

They are sticking ads in their ads.

Pray do tell, how did this moron, get to 600 posts in this joint??? The place has gone to the dogs.....the dogs I tell ya!
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you are are a stupid bitch. Not everyone here is to comment on the BST.
 
barman said:
Hit the Delete button on the emails they send you.

Problem solved you stupid, stupid ass fuck.
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lol, I could always unsubscribe and continue to use it.

I don't see that as a good thing to do, that's why I did not do it.

It's a matter of principles. Something, as it seems, a lot of people here do not understand.


supplyshock said:
Fuck the op is gay. Wtf
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stupid cunt.
 
If there's anything that has been made clear in this thread it's that a few of you need to step away from the desk and go sit in the sunshine for a while.
 
I always use the same email for signing up for shit that I think is spammy. If you signed up with your good email addy, just set up a filter or something, no?
 
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