Romney will Win. Romney: 52.9 Obama: 47.1

If Romney ever had a chance it was before he brought in Paul Ryan to threaten medicare. Now most of the popolation 50 and above have a reason to keep him out of office. Thats a lot of people.

A novel approach might be to focus on stemming escalating medical costs vs taking away from people who paid into the system for a working lifetime. Wonder what the gov would would spend that extra windfall on.
 


mikecarquote said:
If Romney ever had a chance it was before he brought in Paul Ryan to threaten medicare. Now most of the popolation 50 and above have a reason to keep him out of office. Thats a lot of people.

A novel approach might be to focus on stemming escalating medical costs vs taking away from people who paid into the system for a working lifetime. Wonder what the gov would would spend that extra windfall on.
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Obamacare only cut medicare by $716 million.

A "novel" approach would be to "stem" escalating costs? It appears by my interpretation of the "tone" of your post that you think this has not already been talked about?
 
^^ Just sayin' man. He may have sealed his fate when he started aiming at medicare. Its not that people like Obama better. But Romney gave a large segment of the population a reason they didn't have before to not vote Republican this election. More than that, they have a vested interest in keeping him out.
 
romney wins, more socialist policies, economy collapses, everyone blames capitalism, bigger socialist democrat is elected

= game over for at least another 8 years
 
These guys will say anything to be elected. I am not sure I would put much stock in what they say they are going to do. The whole point of this process is to see who can demagogue and lie better to the millions of useful idiots who actually believe them.

I mean, seriously, which President (post-Coolidge) ever delivered on his promises?
 
Cygnus said:
Yes, really. Our consumption of oil is likely outstripping foreseeable demand. Production has been roughly flat and oil pricing has been inching upwards. I can't prove we're at peak oil, but there appears to be evidence supporting this.

Energy is unlimited, but oil isn't. Our infrastructure simply isn't setup to make use of the most promosing alternatives (solar / wind). Ethanol is a net negative, solar/wind have deliverability issues, tidal is intriguing but salt water is extremely corrosive, and that hybrid still takes a lot of oil just to produce.

Where I'll agree is that innovation will step up, but major shocks to oil pricing will stunt the vast majority of development. $50/gal gas is going to fucking cripple your ability to get most imported goods from ourside your locality. Will Romney be able to fix how much oil is in the ground? Nope. Neither will Obama. I don't want to be a doomer because I'm generally a positive person, but I think we're in for a huge paradigm shift that coincides with all the bankster fraud -- going to be ugly.
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Um, no.

Sorry, I'm in that business. Just in speaking with regard to North America, the horizontal drilling and the waterless fracking technologies at present are leading to a glut in natural gas and increasing crude oil capacity. I'm seeing essays written on the coming storage crisis for both crude oil and natural gas in North America. Not by political assholes with axes to grind, but by investments analysts worried about the stock prices of their energy portfolios.

You are seeing high gasoline prices in parts of North America because refineries are taking advantage of the "crack spread" which now as high as $40. That spread is the differential between North Sea (European) crude oil and WTI (West Texas Intermediate). You should bitch about that but just a little but those refined petroleum exports are bringing down the trade deposit.

With regard to worldwide energy supplies, there are stories of completely massive shale gas deposits in Russia. Like enough to choke the markets for hundreds of years.

Basically, I wish you guys would hit the investments periodicals just a little more. There is more hard reporting and way less opinionated bullshit.

And no, don't bother sending me links to watch. If I was forced at gunpoint to watch on more youtube video of an illiterate retard wearing a tinfoil hat telling about the latest world conspiracy, I would kill myself afterwards. Garbage in, garbage out.
 
guerilla said:
These guys will say anything to be elected. I am not sure I would put much stock in what they say they are going to do. The whole point of this process is to see who can demagogue and lie better to the millions of useful idiots who actually believe them.

I mean, seriously, which President (post-Coolidge) ever delivered on his promises?
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Just expounding on your points, mate:

Honestly, neither are going to be good for this country. Even when "Clinton" was in office and America was the so-called bliss of prosperity "he created", it was just the dot-com bubble creating it. His fiscal and other policies would do more damage to the country today.

Neither candidate truly points out that the Nation really needs to have a severe overhaul of current policies before adding new on top of them, even before we can work on getting out of this mess.

As an example:
Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril - MarketWatch

Obama, and when Mitt gets in office he'll probably be paid by the same people to be for it since he's all about Big Entertainment's piracy stance, claims to have a plan for bolstering the Economy and creating jobs. However, he's for the above.

You've Been Owned: Tell Obama To Stop Siding With Copyright Trolls | Demand Progress

This was taken off the previous agenda, but now it's back on again with Obama's support. That isn't being talked about in the news, along with several of the previous censorship bills. Just that single First Sale ruling he's supporting would cause massive Economic disruption world-wide since no one would "own" anything that they've previously paid for.
 
Rexibit said:
Honestly, neither are going to be good for this country.
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That's really it though. The President is just a figurehead for a massive government bureaucracy that persists regardless of who is "in charge".

The notion that anything can be objectively good for the "country" is nonsensical. The US is a nation of 350+ million people. How can ANY policy (except peace and liberty) be in the interest of everyone?

This is the world we live in though. People believe all sorts of things without trying to understand them. The good news is, we can always get another passport and travel away from this madness. There are places where people tend to regard government as it is. A burden and a danger.
 
The only real pressing issue that no one seems to be talking about:

16 Trillion and Counting

How is this not a bigger issue? People are talking about tax cuts?? TAX CUTS are you fucking kidding me? We need to reduce spending 10 - 20% across the board and increase taxes 10 - 20% as well.

Then maybe by the time our grandchildren are our age we might be out of debt.
 
hellblazer said:
The person who wrote this is seriously delusional. It might even be approaching a mental disorder.
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shayne54 said:
The only real pressing issue that no one seems to be talking about:

16 Trillion and Counting

How is this not a bigger issue? People are talking about tax cuts?? TAX CUTS are you fucking kidding me? We need to reduce spending 10 - 20% across the board and increase taxes 10 - 20% as well.
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If you increase taxes, you will have to increase spending. The spending will be justified as having to offset the losses in the private economy due to the tax increases.

The truth is, the US government cut could spending 75% and they still might not be able to pay off the debt.

Wait until interest rates rise. You ain't seen nothing yet.

People don't care about the debt enough to stop living off the government and encouraging consumption via foreign policy. They also won't care about the debt until the entire country is collapsing, so rather than voting, I suggest you invest in getting a second passport.
 
I don't really care for either, but I do think Romney is kinda on a roll right now.

I really like the meme he made saying:

"Hope is not a strategy."

Simple. Catchy. And some effective marketing.
 
shayne54 said:
The only real pressing issue that no one seems to be talking about:

16 Trillion and Counting

How is this not a bigger issue? People are talking about tax cuts?? TAX CUTS are you fucking kidding me? We need to reduce spending 10 - 20% across the board and increase taxes 10 - 20% as well.

Then maybe by the time our grandchildren are our age we might be out of debt.
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Why wait that long? The entire deficit could be eliminated withing 3 years and get the US on the road to a leaner, more viable government without bloated spending bills to mask payoffs to politician's beneficiaries.

Romney Takes Swipe at Ron Paul?s Budget Blueprint

No one in politics (aside from Libertarians) has an interest in eliminating the deficit entirely. It'd topple their power base, which is largely controlled by the banking, insurance, and credit industries.

guerilla said:
I suggest you invest in getting a second passport.
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That's an interesting site. Which do you have? Since you're Canadian, you're going down with our ship too :p
 
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