I lol'd. He's looking at a list of Cordain's own papers, and questioning their veracity because Cordain's name is on all of his papers.
Getting ripped and Paleo eating
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No independent research back it up dumbass and it's the only thing he sources as "PUBLISHED RESEARCH" as if posing it as science. That's half the fucking problem with science. Any blogger is an expert if it "sounds good".
Not a single independent study, dumbass. Read the guy's history, he was a teacher never accomplished shit came out with a fad diet variation of the atkins diet.
WHERE IS PEER REVIEW????
CORDAIN FOUNDED THE DIET SO WHY DO YOU ACT LIKE HE SHOULDN"T SHOW "SCIENCE" behind it. It's not science but his opinion.
You can't publish a paper in a journal without peer review.
There is a ton of related research. Did you spend more than 5 minutes looking?
I went to the link titled "PUBLISHED RESEARCH"
Everything listed is by him, NOTHING independent.
If there is corroborating research from others why wouldn't he list it as part of the "PUBLISHED RESEARCH"??? HE'S the fucking founder of the diet ffs.
There is never going to be a study that "supports paleo diet". It's just too broad. However there are is a shit load of science on gluten intolerance, dairy intolerance, low carbing, high fatting and so on.
Studies validate individual pieces of the diet.
But I don't need to argue with you. I have first hand evidence, which I see and feel on my own body. I feel better than ever. I look better than ever.
I don't need fucking "science" to tell me shit.
My own experiments are science.
No you stupid fuck. YES IT IS HIS WEBSITE but he is the "FOUNDER" of the diet you stupid fuck. And under the category of "PUBLISHED RESEARCH ABOUT THE PALEO DIET" supporting the diet there is nothing corroborating his studies.
FFS. HE DOESN"T SAY HERE IS MY RESEARCH HE SAYS THIS IS THE RESEARCH
He's ignorant because he has first hand experience?
Published scientific experimentation is a phenomenon that is less than 150 or so years old. It's also not the standard for truth.
You are the one who is fucking ignorant. I studied a bunch of shit on diets. I've been a vegetarian, vegan (ruined my health), paleo shmaleo. I've tried a bunch of shit in my life. I've read books, blogs, studied people, papers, research. I have a TON of knowledge in this field.
However, I will not let science alone dictate my reality. That does not mean I am ignorant.
stfu noob all you can do is bitch and nothing constructive
Seriously dude, you're the one who is wrong, and continuing to post from that position of being wrong.
I'm not the stupid fuck in this discussion.
But that page isn't a justification of the diet. That page is a list of his published works. Not other people's published works. Not support for the diet.
It's sort of like getting mad at Michael Jackson for speaking sometimes instead of singing everything.
1. It's HIS published research as already mentioned and you continue to ignore.
2. All of those papers are corroborated by the other authors, and the journal editors who scrutinized the papers before publication. You can't publish just anything in a scientific journal, there is a rigorous submission process, some numpty numpties like you call "peer review"
No doubt. There is being stupid and there is being obstinate. You're both.
The sad thing, is that you haven't disputed any of his research. All you've done is make ad hominem attacks based on the contents of a web page. It's truly the lowest level of discourse around here, even shittier than what the socialists post.
Ok, let's say you were a movie actor. I come to your website to check you out. Are you gonna list every movie ever made on your website? Why the fuck would he list a gazillion papers on this topic all on his website? Shit's not making any sense. STFU
Actually, I figured out the problem, and it is indeed that "shindig" is an idiot.
"The Paleo Diet" is his book. The research is his research from HIS BOOK.
It's not the total research from all over the world wrt Paleo eating.
I can't believe I wasted precious posts talking to fucking idiots today. Fuck me.
"The Paleo Diet" is his book. The research is his research from HIS BOOK.
It's not the total research from all over the world wrt Paleo eating.
I can't believe I wasted precious posts talking to fucking idiots today. Fuck me.
I think some people need to learn that you shouldn't believe everything you read, especially if it is spoon-fed to you.
Always check other sources. How many chocolate-company funded scientific papers are there on the idea that chocolate is actually very healthy for you? Quite a lot.
Always check other sources. How many chocolate-company funded scientific papers are there on the idea that chocolate is actually very healthy for you? Quite a lot.
I can't think of any Ivy league university that didn't come up with a study that proved some kind of correlation. They obviously can't say that X causes Y, because there are too many variables in play, such as genetics, level of physical activity etc... but the conclusion is clear: red meat is a factor.
Red meat raises red flags | Harvard Gazette
"One daily serving of unprocessed red meat (about the size of a deck of cards) was associated with a 13 percent increased risk of mortality, and one daily serving of processed red meat (one hot dog or two slices of bacon) was associated with a 20 percent increased risk."
In the 60s, there wasn't an Ivy League university that didn't endorse Communism. And so?
Also, correlation is not causation. I shouldn't have to tell you that.
On the one hand, you say it's too complex, on the other hand, you offer logical fallacies as to why it's conclusive.
Where I come from, that's called bullshit. YMMV.
So is drinking water, sleeping and living in general.
Smoking is associated with 100% mortality.
Not smoking is associated with 100% mortality.
Almost all of these red meat studies conveniently left out a key data point: how the animal was raised.
Since I have better things to do with my time, the tl;dr summary is: meat from grain-fed animals is positively linked with heart disease, but meat from pasture raised animals is perfectly healthy.
There's a great example out there that shows exactly why you have to be careful about third factors (i.e. correlation instead of causation). I'm sure you'll have heard of it. It said that eating at night made you fat.
Now unfortunately people still believe it because the newspapers were keen to report it but not so keen to report how often it had been disproved after. Their error was taking a sample of people who ate at night and a sample of people who didnt eat at night, they then noticed that the average weight of the people who ate at night was higher. Therefore eating at night makes you fat. Or not.
The real reason was that those who ate at night, also ate in the day. In fact they just constantly ate. Makes sense that those who constantly eat are going to be fatter than those who eat fairly regularly.
Stupid science is stupid. Look into the studies. Decide if anything is actually conclusive.
Now unfortunately people still believe it because the newspapers were keen to report it but not so keen to report how often it had been disproved after. Their error was taking a sample of people who ate at night and a sample of people who didnt eat at night, they then noticed that the average weight of the people who ate at night was higher. Therefore eating at night makes you fat. Or not.
The real reason was that those who ate at night, also ate in the day. In fact they just constantly ate. Makes sense that those who constantly eat are going to be fatter than those who eat fairly regularly.
Stupid science is stupid. Look into the studies. Decide if anything is actually conclusive.