Predicting landing sector of roulette wheel



Isn't there a saying that goes something like, "Anyone that has a specific method to gambling is truly crazy.... or a dumb fuck."
 
I can't tell who is and isn't trolling with these replies. 'Gambler's fallacy' is strong in this one.

If you're not sports betting or playing poker, you're fucked... Unless you're on some rain man type shit, and even then your probably still fucked.

Gl bros.
 
mGrunin said:
I'll tell you what works for me. Know how all the numbers are broken into three different groups. I would go to a $5 table with about $5k bank roll. Bet on two groups at the same time. Table min only. If you lose, double your bet on each group.
Usual bad streak is that two or three times in a row the numbers comes out of the same group. (etc 1-12,13-24, 24-36)

As long as you don't press your bet + have a decent bank roll..you'll do fine unless you really land on a fucked up table.

P.S - If I see a number come out of the same group three times in a row, I move on of my bets to that group now.

Martingale 2.0
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I thought casinos outlawed the Martingale method and will throw you out if they catch you doing it.
 
i think saying goes something like "if you have a system, we want you gambling here". And they dont need to outlaw martingale, cause it only works if you have unlimited funds AND no table limit
 
Plenty of math retards detected.

Having been intimately involved in the gambling industry; there are 5 ways to beat a roulette wheel:

1- Finding an unbalanced wheel. Which is technically legal, but is extremely time consuming and your profit for time invested will be small; especially since you will be put on black lists VERY quickly.
2- Using technology to track the speed and movement of the ball; this is illegal, you can go to jail for it and lose everything you potentially won.
3- Colluding with a dealer; again, this is illegal.
4- Gambling online and charging back your CC (again illegal and you will get put on black lists and may have some big guys coming by your house asking you to take a ride with them)
5- Gambling online and colluding with a friend who puts you under their affiliate tag (against TOC and you will be put on a black lists very quickly; not to mention your affiliate friend will likely have his acc closed and earnings withheld)

There is no other way to make money on roulette than the 5 points listed.

You have to be retarded to want to win money from roulette. I mean, if you want to gamble and win money; poker would be the way to go. And even then, the margins (for time invested) are small and variance is huge, since there are so many people doing it (especially when compared to running a business).

Retards gonna retard I guess.
 
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Wickedfire: "Roulette is beatable, you scrubs! I have a system!"

Yeeeeeeaaah. Pretty sure the house mathematical edge on roulette is like 5%+. Which makes it one of the worst games for casino patrons, with slots coming in a close second.

greenleaves said:
...poker would be the way to go. And even then, the margins (for time invested) are small and variance is huge, since there are so many people doing it (especially when compared to running a business).

Retards gonna retard I guess.
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Poker can be a lot more lucrative than people think, but only when you know the game. Poker is a lot like sex, everyone thinks they're a god at it, but only a small % actually know what they are doing. But, yes, variance and what-not can be a bitch and running a business is way better, imo. But there's a shit-ton of money to be made at the poker tables, even at the lower-limit games, in a place like Vegas. Pretty sure an average wage among disciplined winners at a game like 2-5NL was around $30/hour, which beats most jobs out here.
 
Fiver said:
I thought casinos outlawed the Martingale method and will throw you out if they catch you doing it.
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lolwut? They'll love you and comp you. Martingale players are one of their favorites.

Just this last time I was there in June, playing black jack, a pit boss at the golden nugget was actually trying to entice us to use the martingale saying some broad walked out with 30k the night before using it and perhaps we should try it. He was kindly told to fuck off.
 
If you are going to play roulette for gods sake play the European version with only the single zero.

Single zero roulette = 2.63% house edge
Double zero roulette = 5.26% house edge

Every bet on the roulette offers those same odds, be it straight up on a number or red/black.

The only bet offered on roulette that has different (worse) odds is the basket bet (0-00-1-2-3 combination) which has a 7.89% house edge.
 
Michael_ said:
Poker can be a lot more lucrative than people think, but only when you know the game. Poker is a lot like sex, everyone thinks they're a god at it, but only a small % actually know what they are doing. But, yes, variance and what-not can be a bitch and running a business is way better, imo. But there's a shit-ton of money to be made at the poker tables, even at the lower-limit games, in a place like Vegas. Pretty sure an average wage among disciplined winners at a game like 2-5NL was around $30/hour, which beats most jobs out here.
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1/2NL is like $20hr live. I've heard from a few people who play electronic tables it can be closer to $30/hr because of the higher HPH. It seems incredibly easy to win at poker, but you're stuck with a certain demographic of people and don't really learn a whole lot of skills to put on your resume if/when you get sick of poker.
 
The most retarded thing about gambling is the fact that it is 'illegal' to try to turn a game of (losing) expectation into a game with winning expectation by using your intellect. In other words, it is illegal to win. That's why I prefer losing my money the slowest by playing vanilla+ black jack strategy.
 
Michael_ said:
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Wickedfire: "Roulette is beatable, you scrubs! I have a system!"

Yeeeeeeaaah. Pretty sure the house mathematical edge on roulette is like 5%+. Which makes it one of the worst games for casino patrons, with slots coming in a close second.



Poker can be a lot more lucrative than people think, but only when you know the game. Poker is a lot like sex, everyone thinks they're a god at it, but only a small % actually know what they are doing. But, yes, variance and what-not can be a bitch and running a business is way better, imo. But there's a shit-ton of money to be made at the poker tables, even at the lower-limit games, in a place like Vegas. Pretty sure an average wage among disciplined winners at a game like 2-5NL was around $30/hour, which beats most jobs out here.
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We have different concepts of lucrative. $30/hour... is not impressive. I'm not saying it is shit, that adds up to a little under 100k/year. But...

The best poker players might make low 7 fig/year. And the second they stop playing, they stop earning.

The best business players make 10-11 digits/year, and they can stop working and still make money. Businesses that aren't very impressive make more than the most impressive poker players do... that should tell all.

And don't get me wrong, I play poker, it is fun. It's just not something I'd think of as a 'great source of money'. Too many people trying it, too much variance, too much time commitment, too difficult to delegate and scale.
 
greenleaves said:
We have different concepts of lucrative. $30/hour... is not impressive. I'm not saying it is shit, that adds up to a little under 100k/year. But...

The best poker players might make low 7 fig/year. And the second they stop playing, they stop earning.

The best business players make 10-11 digits/year, and they can stop working and still make money. Businesses that aren't very impressive make more than the most impressive poker players do... that should tell all.

And don't get me wrong, I play poker, it is fun. It's just not something I'd think of as a 'great source of money'. Too many people trying it, too much variance, too much time commitment, too difficult to delegate and scale.
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Yes, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say it's a good substitute for owning your own business, not even remotely. I was just elaborating on the poster I quoted that it isn't really similar to a game like roulette. Particularly as far as expected earnings are concerned. Winning players, over any decent sample can sustain pretty consistent winrates. That's not to say the variance during that sample isn't obscene, because it is, but when everything is said and done, if you're putting in volume and you're a winning player in your games, you can secure a reasonable hourly winrate. (Obviously reasonable is subjective - If you're first and only job clears you half a mil a year, it's not going to seem that great. If you're used to mcdonald wages or something, it's quite a pay increase).
 
Not too far in the future you'll be able to conceal sensors like smaller versions of kinect/leap motion that can gauge the velocity(position and direction) of objects and predict likely outcomes.

You already could do it with some of the augmented reality libraries/apis but not conspicuously. heh Imagine pointing your phone camera at the wheel and shouting your bet after a number pops on the screen, lol...
 
To add: Looking back over the years I devoted to poker, I really kick myself for not devoting that time, energy and drive to developing real assets (or at the very least making significant efforts to invest portions of winnings).

It makes me think of this article: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

It basically says that if you aren't cultivating useful skills that benefit people/humanity/world that your life will suck. Which, I can say from experience, after walking away from poker (black friday) that I found myself with nothing but a nice gap in my resume and out-dated skill-sets. Had I spent the insane amount of hours that I spent grinding, studying, learning, note taking on opponents, etc on building online assets, learning a programming language, writing novels, writing articles, (insert a million other humanity-influencing skills here), I'm sure my life would look quite a bit different (in a good way).
 
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