Ukraine military shelling its own schools
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I love the original idea of America. Specially coming from USSR.
It truly started off as small government and brought change to the world. Electricity, cars, clean ass.
What I question is not what most Americans believe in. But has happened to America since. I got my theories.
TJ has a good way of saying it.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809) “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” – Thomas Jefferson
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM"]The Collapse of The American Dream Explained in Animation - YouTub[/ame]
It truly started off as small government and brought change to the world. Electricity, cars, clean ass.
What I question is not what most Americans believe in. But has happened to America since. I got my theories.
TJ has a good way of saying it.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809) “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” – Thomas Jefferson
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM"]The Collapse of The American Dream Explained in Animation - YouTub[/ame]
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFgAKYeNN-M"]Rebels deploy AGS-30 Grenade Launcher in South East Ukraine - YouTube[/ame]
Rebels deploy AGS-30 Grenade Launcher in South East Ukraine
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdcAg-zF_Wk"]Rebels lay down fire on Ukrainian Checkpoints 27th May. - YouTube[/ame]
Rebels lay down fire on Ukrainian Checkpoints 27th May. (longer video of above)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4lRLDIkFIo"]Об�трел а�ропорта в Донецке вертолётом - YouTube[/ame]
Ukrainian army Mil Mi-24 fires rockets at pro-Russian rebels at Donetsk airport.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEziU0c6-54&feature=share"]ГÐGAYÐ�Д украинÑ�кой армии в дейÑ�твии Ukrainian army shoots GRAD - YouTube[/ame]
Ukrainian army deploys BM-21 GRAD. Unit is stationed between Slaviansk and Kramatorsk. 27th of May.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0zjSTFB48s"]What It Sounds Like To Be On The Reciving End Of A Helicopter Attack | Ukraine Combat Footage 2014 - YouTube[/ame]
What It Sounds Like To Be On The Reciving End Of An Helicopter Attack | Ukraine
shits getting real. crazy to watch wars like this go on and get quality video footage uploaded the SAME DAY of events going on. God I love technology.
Rebels deploy AGS-30 Grenade Launcher in South East Ukraine
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdcAg-zF_Wk"]Rebels lay down fire on Ukrainian Checkpoints 27th May. - YouTube[/ame]
Rebels lay down fire on Ukrainian Checkpoints 27th May. (longer video of above)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4lRLDIkFIo"]Об�трел а�ропорта в Донецке вертолётом - YouTube[/ame]
Ukrainian army Mil Mi-24 fires rockets at pro-Russian rebels at Donetsk airport.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEziU0c6-54&feature=share"]ГÐGAYÐ�Д украинÑ�кой армии в дейÑ�твии Ukrainian army shoots GRAD - YouTube[/ame]
Ukrainian army deploys BM-21 GRAD. Unit is stationed between Slaviansk and Kramatorsk. 27th of May.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0zjSTFB48s"]What It Sounds Like To Be On The Reciving End Of A Helicopter Attack | Ukraine Combat Footage 2014 - YouTube[/ame]
What It Sounds Like To Be On The Reciving End Of An Helicopter Attack | Ukraine
shits getting real. crazy to watch wars like this go on and get quality video footage uploaded the SAME DAY of events going on. God I love technology.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhD7enEvv_I]Мы кадыровцы, признались террористы в Донецке - YouTube[/ame]
terrorists are saying they're actually from chechnya.
terrorists are saying they're actually from chechnya.
Just gonna put a little more lies here from the pro russian news:
Fake:
people getting killed, buildings bombed, nazis in the government lol.
Where the picture is really from:
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Fake:
"Hundreds of people in Rome came out in protest against lies of European news outlets about what is really happening in Ukraine."
What really happened:
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This is just disgusting, but that's how russian news work:
"A reporter of LIFENEWS is using a picture of a girl killed as a result of
of an attack by the Assad army as something that happened in Ukraine."
Above is the real story ^.
Fake:
people getting killed, buildings bombed, nazis in the government lol.
Where the picture is really from:
-----
Fake:
"Hundreds of people in Rome came out in protest against lies of European news outlets about what is really happening in Ukraine."
What really happened:
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This is just disgusting, but that's how russian news work:
"A reporter of LIFENEWS is using a picture of a girl killed as a result of
of an attack by the Assad army as something that happened in Ukraine."
Above is the real story ^.
Please enlighten us ignorant proles as to how "not rigged" the voting was then, I am interested to know if your extensive knowledge of "how Russians operate" came from your extensive research of Western propaganda (likely), Russian propaganda? (unlikely) or personal experience of events on the ground in Ukraine (highly doubtful).
The "Do your own research" meme Is just another logical fallacy that typically gets abused here. Most humans are either too lazy or too intellectually dishonest to bother with any real research.
Far easier to parrot just one side of the story.
Just gonna put a little more lies here from the pro russian news:
Fake:
people getting killed, buildings bombed, nazis in the government lol.
Where the picture is really from:
-----
Fake:
"Hundreds of people in Rome came out in protest against lies of European news outlets about what is really happening in Ukraine."
What really happened:
----------
This is just disgusting, but that's how russian news work:
"A reporter of LIFENEWS is using a picture of a girl killed as a result of
of an attack by the Assad army as something that happened in Ukraine."
Above is the real story ^.
This is Syria all over again, no doubt both sides are engaging in faked and/or recycled photos as part of the propaganda war.
Most of us in the west are tired of the manipulation from both sides in Syria and have decided to ignore it and let the Syrians sort it out.
It's getting to the point where we should probably adopt the same attitude towards the Ukraine.
There is no such thing as good guys vs bad guys, it's all bad guys vs bad guys until whoever eventually comes out on top gets to write the history books and claim to be the good guys and insist that the other guys were the bad guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYoIgKxOK4A
You realise that RT is a state funded propaganda bullshit generator?
Check out their USA section if you want to laugh.
http://rt.com/usa/
I challenge you to find a positive story about the West or the USA.
Check out their USA section if you want to laugh.
http://rt.com/usa/
I challenge you to find a positive story about the West or the USA.
Sniper from Russia, said how much pay for Ukrainians killed (Video)
At the train station "Kharkov- Passenger " while attempting to cross the Russian- Ukrainian border was detained a Russian citizen .
This was reported by the press service of the SBU (FBI analog in Ukraine).
Found that 39 -year-old citizen of the Russian Federation is a sniper and was involved in military operations in Chechnya .
During interrogation, the detainee told investigators SBU that on the instructions of the Russian special services heading to the eastern regions of Ukraine for participation in illegal armed formations .
Before leaving for Ukraine sniper was given detailed instructions in Rostov-on-Don (city in Russia).
For his "job" he had to get a reward : for the murder of an ordinary Ukrainian soldier - $ 100 per officer - $ 1,000 , and on his return another 2,000 euros.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN7MHeFxDLU"]За�ва �найпера - YouTube[/ame]
http://izvestiya.in.ua/video/932166...skolko-platyat-za-ybitih-ykraincev-video.html
At the train station "Kharkov- Passenger " while attempting to cross the Russian- Ukrainian border was detained a Russian citizen .
This was reported by the press service of the SBU (FBI analog in Ukraine).
Found that 39 -year-old citizen of the Russian Federation is a sniper and was involved in military operations in Chechnya .
During interrogation, the detainee told investigators SBU that on the instructions of the Russian special services heading to the eastern regions of Ukraine for participation in illegal armed formations .
Before leaving for Ukraine sniper was given detailed instructions in Rostov-on-Don (city in Russia).
For his "job" he had to get a reward : for the murder of an ordinary Ukrainian soldier - $ 100 per officer - $ 1,000 , and on his return another 2,000 euros.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN7MHeFxDLU"]За�ва �найпера - YouTube[/ame]
http://izvestiya.in.ua/video/932166...skolko-platyat-za-ybitih-ykraincev-video.html
RT is just the other side of the same coin, read the western media and they are the state controlled sheeple funded bullshit generator for the west.
It's interesting to read the comment sections of the American left dominated media and see that most of the readers opinions are diametrically opposed to what the "journalists" are writing. The amount of Putin worship present in the comment sections of western news sites is quite interesting to behold.
You could argue that the RT comments section is likewise the polar opposite and full of Russians worshipping Obama but alas that does not appear to be the case. Who woulda thunk it. Instead it appears to be mostly populated by WaFo MMO spam.
Basically we live in a topsy turvy fucked up world where former communists are upholding values that align with many American conservatives, while at the same time the Democrats are actively working to turn the USA into something that more closely resembles the USSR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9_Lx2AWaE
That's the normal response you get from apologists for regimes like Putin's, but it really is just hyperbole. The Western media is varied, a lot of westerners even buy into the "ours is just as bad" line too.
But it really, really isn't "just the same". Western media is criticised and varied, its not perfect and of course you can find stuff thats wrong with it and could be improved. But its just a joke to even compare it to something like RT which is 100% funded by the kremlin and has a single line of "The west is bad and hypocritical". "The west is declining into chaos and it's citizens are treated terribly".
Surprised at that.
They only have a few "themes" for their stories about the US (and the west in general). Specifically about the US, it's:
Police brutality
Spying
Chaos and disasters
Gun violence (playing up to the idea outside of the US that its so dangerous and trigger happy)
Death penalty (usually mistakes or miscarriages of justice)
Corruption/white collar crime
American government lying
American society in Chaos (children killing other children for candy)
Drugs and violent gangs taking over the streets
I would be surprised if you can find a story on their USA ssection that doesn't fall into one of those categories. Or maybe a slightly different, but always negative and doom/chaos related category.
One of my goals in life is to run a perception management campaign for a Russian corp, gov tied or not, I don't care, so long as it didn't violate US natsec/roe. I would probably have a smile on my face every single day of that project. It's like setting the standard and doing shit no one ever thought possible. Regardless of the target audience too. The lack of creativity in their overall psyops strategy, even though to their credit is still somewhat effective (but even that is losing it's effectiveess), but as a whole is laughable these days. It's like watching Google take on Facebook with their G+ product, and the only ones believing the long term play the whole way through are the naive fuckers at the top of Google.
/rant
/rant
Just saw this on Reddit too: BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China's internet 'spin doctors'
Every major gov must be doing this shit on huge levels. Would be fun to do more political marketing, very short experience in it but I felt like I was in House of Cards the whole time.
That's because their target audience (guys like big will) eat that shit up for bfast. It's easy, cheap AND it works.
