Need an investor for my E-juice E-cig company

Sh@rk said:
Five Pawns - Signature Vapor Liquid

This has been done correctly.
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7 different fonts on the label?
No real product presentation? Bottles look cheap as fuck.
Site takes ages to load and the design looks like a free template which has not been customized at all.
Google auto translate for an ecommerce project?
Holy fuck...

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Sh@rk said:
Any marketer on this forum who says otherwise please ask for a ban.
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Jon, Emp or Mike, please ban this guy.
 


Ibanez | Jan said:
7 different fonts on the label?
No real product presentation? Bottles look cheap as fuck.
Site takes ages to load and the design looks like a free template which has not been customized at all.
Google auto translate for an ecommerce project?
Holy fuck...

Jon, Emp or Mike, please ban this guy.
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I think what they are looking to portray works, they are not following the crowd and if you look through their website they have a couple of USP's. However I expected a neckbeard response, making every effort to find something wrong with it.

Website loads fine for me, time to upgrade that dial up.
 
nickster said:
huh? No he's not



He is saying the opposite, and is spot on. There is little to no way that OP isn't going to get sued out of existence.

Proper rookie business move, taking a risk that has very little upside and colossal downside.

Anyone investing in this "venture" under any basis is mental. I mean give him a loan with his home as collateral (doubtful he has a home) by all means, but for equity or even a royalty is just plain suicide for their money.
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Nickster (facepalm) go back and read your referring post here http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-...r-my-e-juice-e-cig-company-2.html#post2196970 and then see if you can figure out why you confused poor Fatbat- shouldn't be hard, just use those super-duper critical thinking skillz you're so renowned for.

Lol.

Thanks for the vote of confidence though, even if you did backhand me an insult along the way. Again...

LOL.
 
op can do a quick integrity check for himself by questing himself:
"would i in the right mind come up with the whole walking dead theme before seeing the tv series?"
if the answer is yes, ask again)) lol
 
gattaca said:
Hey guys as some have you read my thread earlier this year i started a brick and mortar E-cig store to try and take advantage of the growing opportunity..

the store is not doing bad.. lots of competition but we did about 24k in gross sales last month with about 13k of that profit..then 3500 in rent and electricity and another 2k in labor im putting a good 6-8 in my pocket every month..

any advice would be appreciated.
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Recap:

Gross Rev. : 24,000
COGS: (13,000)
Rent: (3,500)
Wages: (2,000)

Pre-Tax Net Rev. = 5,500

Do not forget that here in the States you always have to pay your business partner Uncle Sam. I do not know how you are incorporated, but if you are not I would highly recommend you get on those professional services (accounting/lawyer) asap. Also when/if you incorporate consider having your shop and smoke juice as separate entities. You will get sued eventually and you do not want to lose everything.
 
To the people who say "the term Walking Dead has been around forever, it's not gonna be an issue" I would like to point out King has patented the word CANDY. That's right. You can't use the word Candy in your game titles anymore because someone has patented it.

I'm not sure if AMC would actually sue you, but if they did they'd probably win, and it's not good business practice to depend on someone's whim. You're new. I'd change the name.
 
^^ apples and oranges here with OP but still in regards to King you are not absolutely right:

"If I got a cease-and-desist letter on behalf of a client who had a game that involved candy, I would respond by saying, 'You may own a registration, but unless you can prove that consumers are being confused between my game and your game, you should not be able to prevent me from using a descriptive word in the title of my game,'" attorney Jesse Saivar of law firm Greenberg Glusker told Polygon. "And that's really what the key is here: If the word 'candy' is used on its own in the title of the game that involves candy, King.com really should not be able to successfully obtain registration, because under trademark law, you can't own exclusive rights to a word that is descriptive of the goods or services being offered under that trademark."
 
ShadowPanther said:
Recap:

Gross Rev. : 24,000
COGS: (13,000)
Rent: (3,500)
Wages: (2,000)

Pre-Tax Net Rev. = 5,500

Do not forget that here in the States you always have to pay your business partner Uncle Sam. I do not know how you are incorporated, but if you are not I would highly recommend you get on those professional services (accounting/lawyer) asap. Also when/if you incorporate consider having your shop and smoke juice as separate entities. You will get sued eventually and you do not want to lose everything.
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He said 13k profit, COGS was 11k.

Pre tax net rev = 7,500.
 
quick reality check, trademark your brand name in your trademark class, if you slip through only then can you sleep well without risking your investors' money on potential tm hazards down the road.
if not - you will avoid potentially much bigger repercussions if you'd go nationwide.
tm'ing is unavoidable anyways.
 
g1c9 said:
He's not ripping off the TV show. the phrase "walking dead" probably pre-dates the show, he adds to it, it's a different industry, etc... Time-warner could still sue and cause trouble but I'm pretty sure he's in the clear here.

It's like if they started a show called "Zombies" and then he made an unrelated e-juice brand called "Zombie Vapors". Doesn't matter.
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I can suggest a few good intellectual property books for you to peruse if you'd care to educate yourself on this fascinating subject. Of course, if you prefer to just keep on giving these off the cuff opinions, well hell that's just fine with me too because your post really made me smile ;)
 
I have zero experience and curiosity regarding trademark law so please ignore my earlier post.

One thing that I was factoring in which no one has mentioned is that if you google his brand you come up to his website(s) eg: https://www.facebook.com/walkingdeadvapors which shows a graphical style/logo/etc which pretty clearly differentiates itself from the TV show.

Having said that, just talk to a TM lawyer. Or possibly rebrand regardless to save yourself from headaches.

Galacon you are a bad man and you should feel bad. :)
 
g1c9 said:
I have zero experience and curiosity regarding trademark law so please ignore my earlier post.

One thing that I was factoring in which no one has mentioned is that if you google his brand you come up to his website(s) eg: https://www.facebook.com/walkingdeadvapors which shows a graphical style/logo/etc which pretty clearly differentiates itself from the TV show.

Having said that, just talk to a TM lawyer. Or possibly rebrand regardless to save yourself from headaches.

Galacon you are a bad man and you should feel bad. :)
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Do you regularly spew such mind-numbing, stupid dribble on those who are unfortunate enough to be around you? Or do you reserve such fine, almost dictionary perfect examples of mental diarrhea for WF alone?

Please say you were drunk when you wrote that...
 
g1c9 said:
I have zero experience and curiosity regarding trademark law so please ignore my earlier post.

One thing that I was factoring in which no one has mentioned is that if you google his brand you come up to his website(s) eg: https://www.facebook.com/walkingdeadvapors which shows a graphical style/logo/etc which pretty clearly differentiates itself from the TV show.

Having said that, just talk to a TM lawyer. Or possibly rebrand regardless to save yourself from headaches.

Galacon you are a bad man and you should feel bad. :)
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Are you Willy from NicheChoppers?

People who suck at trademark law from 3 years ago will lol
 
Saw a bunch of e-cig shops when I was traveling this weekend. Crazy. Some of them are in nice ass locations too. Even the tobacco shops all have e-cig shit these days.
 
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