Hellblazer
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That's just a flat-out lie. He already admitted to deleting mine. Uber's were exiled to some wasteland, and Lord knows what happened to Fatbat's.
I agree, I've never seen a circle-the-wagons on steroids mentality like this before. Points for tenacity, guys.
Or it could be "we're talking about different incidents you dumb fuck". I was referring to the posts SEO_Mike mentioned here.
And the posts you mentioned apparently he said he would be deleting things. Guess I don't see the problem.
Well, my posts were moved back to the LPLockdown thread which was at the time dropped down as far as activity goes.
I came in Nicky's "I'm an addict" thread and just called out the damage control that pretty much everyone seems to agree with (in that thread I was basically just called an asshole for saying it - even though Jon completely agreed and nobody had anything to say about that). But since it hindered the damage control Nicky was trying to achieve, he moved them.
I'm not complaining about censorship as much as hellblazer is because this isn't Fahrenheit 451, but my post wasn't anything that should have been moved.
I had made my final word, but since you were nice enough to give me a reply I'll return the favor.
Doesn't change the fact that it's very easy to read PM's - which was all I said. I'm sure the people you mention appreciate you coming to their defense though.
I was talking about the tracking202 data, this is a long time ago as I said... when Wes still did own the business and it's data.
Someone mentioned Jon made him an offer and Wes refused. I don't claim this to be true, I'm merely repeating what was said.
I meant it as an example. Nothing is wrong with us, a lot of people do business here, and A LOT of people were concerned.
1. Matt Cutts has security teams overlooking his shoulders at all times.
2. Gmail is encrypted.
3. Matt Cutts doesn't publicly declare to be able to read our emails, call himself 'slightly shady', or dig up 'everything he can about us without using our profile'
4. Matt Cutts doesn't have his colleagues say Matt Cutts can ruin your credit score.
WickedFire has.... what exactly? I fail to see where this comparison holds any ground.
You can take it as you want, I'm just making neutral statements here. Why do you state you can read our e-mails? Unless you're also adding to all of this that WF(or you) has the willing ability to use the hijack logged in e-mail sessions such as gmail? (You said it, not me)
Why you would even 'find out as much as I want about most people here'?
1. There's 79 people on WF that thought "Hell yes, Nickycakes overstepped his privileges, action needs to be taken against him", 23 who thought he didn't.
2. The ability was removed a long time ago for members, the "EVERY SINGLE PERSON" you refer to had to be a mod.
3. I never claimed to refer to Nicky's post deletion when I said NickyGates, I was referring to everything as a whole.
3. However, to call the concerned members looking into the integrity of WickedFire a bunch of idiots, well, I don't even need to add anything else to this statement - people can think for themselves.
I wrote this as PSA for other members. Sorry I cared.
Doesn't change the fact that it's very easy to read PM's - which was all I said. I'm sure the people you mention appreciate you coming to their defense though.
I was talking about the tracking202 data, this is a long time ago as I said... when Wes still did own the business and it's data.
Someone mentioned Jon made him an offer and Wes refused. I don't claim this to be true, I'm merely repeating what was said.
I meant it as an example. Nothing is wrong with us, a lot of people do business here, and A LOT of people were concerned.
1. Matt Cutts has security teams overlooking his shoulders at all times.
2. Gmail is encrypted.
3. Matt Cutts doesn't publicly declare to be able to read our emails, call himself 'slightly shady', or dig up 'everything he can about us without using our profile'
4. Matt Cutts doesn't have his colleagues say Matt Cutts can ruin your credit score.
WickedFire has.... what exactly? I fail to see where this comparison holds any ground.
You can take it as you want, I'm just making neutral statements here. Why do you state you can read our e-mails? Unless you're also adding to all of this that WF(or you) has the willing ability to use the hijack logged in e-mail sessions such as gmail? (You said it, not me)
Why you would even 'find out as much as I want about most people here'?
1. There's 79 people on WF that thought "Hell yes, Nickycakes overstepped his privileges, action needs to be taken against him", 23 who thought he didn't.
2. The ability was removed a long time ago for members, the "EVERY SINGLE PERSON" you refer to had to be a mod.
3. I never claimed to refer to Nicky's post deletion when I said NickyGates, I was referring to everything as a whole.
3. However, to call the concerned members looking into the integrity of WickedFire a bunch of idiots, well, I don't even need to add anything else to this statement - people can think for themselves.
I wrote this as PSA for other members. Sorry I cared.
You rather convieniently left out the 101 people or the majority that says they don't care. I offer this to the people that say that wickedfire mods/admin aren't listening to their concerns about an ethical breach, when the majority probably either don't see it or don't care. Put that together with the people who don't think Nicky actually did anything wrong at all and all you've got is the QQ minority.
to be 100% fair I don't think you can combine the "don't care fuck you" vote with either of them. Comedy option always gets more votes. Not taking sides here
Perfectly fitting sig.
This whole spat should just turn into a forum wide sig war so that every thread can be about nickygate instead of just every other one.
I left them out exactly because they don't care about the situation. It's not convenient or purposeful, It's either +, -, or 0.
I don't know if you noticed but I never QQ'd about anything, I previously just cared enough to say what I thought. What I thought was an unbiased opinion. The unbiased opinion usually resides in the minority, but in this case happens to be the majority.
The majority who has been established as not worth anything by most who are in charge, but the majority nonetheless.
edit: Anyways, I said everything I had to say about the subject. Unless I get another reply, I'm out of anything having to do with Nicky, mods, integrity, ethical standards and it's back to tits and laughs. I only made around 5 posts on the subject and I feel like I wasted far too much precious time on this.
i don't think it has to do with comedy as much as people just wish this shit would fucking fade away because at this point, if i have to read another random uber post about nicky or some fucktard nobody post about his past drug problems again and why no one should trust him with data, i'm going to go play in traffic.
drama drama drama.
everyone needs to just shut the fuck up, do your grind and get paid.
Find me one person claiming he deleted any posts in that thread. You won't, you 'dumb fuck'. Are you destroying my credit history yet?
Awesome! So now censorship is cool as long as there's a pretty little disclaimer beforehand.
"Guys, I'm going to be deleting any posts that make this thread look like the desperate reputation rescue attempt it is. All of you ball-licking, servile fanbois will be fine; let the circle-jerking begin. And remember, Wickedfire isn't like those gay places like DP or Wafo where the 'elite' set themselves up to be worshipped."
Sweet!
1)I wasn't the one who said anyone would be 'destroying your credit history', so fuck off.
2)I'm not reading all 5 pages again, but people have a nasty habit of bitching without linking/referencing any thread at all. So I'm left to assume/fill in the blanks. It's pretty much impossible to address a problem if it's just an formless blob of complaints about nothing specific. So once again, fuck off.
You know what? Mostly, I just think the whole thing is fucking ridiculous. Moderating can be tricky. We operate in nebulous idea of "moderation" with a bunch of people who are going to get pissed no matter what("Omggzzz he's dirtying my sales thread", "Omgzzz he's following me around the board","Omgzzzz I have the right to post pictures of buttfucking wherever I want"). Sometimes mods don't make the right decision. Sometimes there is no right decision.
So even if I were to allow for the idea that he shouldn't have done it, I still would have to say it was an overestimation of pretty nebulous boundaries at worst. Sure, bitch at him for it and derail a thread if it means that much to you. Lesson would be learned. But this is just obnoxious and idiotic.
It's not like your tax dollars are paying us or anything(we're not). So chill out.
Oh yeah, because I've always been a pro-Nicky force. Oh wait. I haven't really chimed in on anything Nicky related...pretty much ever.
Btw I forgot to mention when Eli said it, that I'm backing him up with the whole "if anymore retarded threads are started about the same damn thing" I'll be deleting them as well. 15 threads are plenty, you can keep all your bitching up in those.
I just wanted to put this out here so that someone doesn't start number 16 and then start screaming censorship when it's deleted. mmmmk?
Carry on....
I just wanted to put this out here so that someone doesn't start number 16 and then start screaming censorship when it's deleted. mmmmk?
Carry on....
So I am not staying out of this - sue me.
1. The mods can't read your PMs. I am one, I can't. Maybe the admins can, I don't know and I don't care.
2. Do not fucking exchange sensible information in a place you can't control. If you fear the admins are going to read your PMs, don't fucking write anything sensitive.
1. set up a funny image or flash file on your server, good eneough that it will go viral.
2. Make an epic thread at wickedfire
3. Collect IPs
4. Rinse
5. Repeat
6. Freak out because emp is making your secret IP identity public.
If you are a concerned member and able to think your yourself:
ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++
Do NOT discuss sensitive information on wickedfire or any other public forum. Not in threads, not in PMs. As plugins to read PMs are easily available (thanks for that information), this should be common sense.
ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++
Best,
::emp::
1. The mods can't read your PMs. I am one, I can't. Maybe the admins can, I don't know and I don't care.
2. Do not fucking exchange sensible information in a place you can't control. If you fear the admins are going to read your PMs, don't fucking write anything sensitive.
So.. are we going to base this discussion an ancient rumours? If you don't know that something is true, do not repeat it.
The funny thing is, you and I and everyone can still do this.
1. set up a funny image or flash file on your server, good eneough that it will go viral.
2. Make an epic thread at wickedfire
3. Collect IPs
4. Rinse
5. Repeat
6. Freak out because emp is making your secret IP identity public.
Well, I never did. Some of the comments and arguments made were quite idiotic, though.
If you are a concerned member and able to think your yourself:
ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++
Do NOT discuss sensitive information on wickedfire or any other public forum. Not in threads, not in PMs. As plugins to read PMs are easily available (thanks for that information), this should be common sense.
ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++ ATTENTION +++
Best,
::emp::
You basically replied to a reply which is now completely out of context, re-wrote all the advice I gave originally, and added some pretty colors.
I've made my opinion, anyone who cares to formulate their own can look at my last posts and the ones I quoted. I never tried to convince anyone of anything. Like I said previously, I wrote this as a PSA to other members.
