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I have spent a few months thinking about this post. I've gone back and forth on what to write. There is an expectation, raised by many other good milestone threads, that makes 10k seem like a big deal.

I have had friends ask me if this post would be “epic” or “mind-blowing”. I don't even know how to respond to that. I don't think anything I have ever posted was epic or mind-blowing. It's intimidating that people expect something like that from me. That's an impossible expectation to meet in my opinion.

10,000 posts took six years to accrue. A lot of those 10,000 posts are bad. Some are ok. A few might be really good. A few I wish I never made. You could probably delete 9,000 of my posts, and substantively, my record would not be any worse off and perhaps, much better through improved signal to noise.

However, posting a lot tends to convey authority because humans have a habit of associating size (rather than elegance or brevity) with success. Deserved or not, there are probably a couple-three guys here who think I know what I am talking about, and that what I say is important. There is not much I can do about that now. 10,000 or so posts have been made.

Anyway, enough of the context on where my head is at as I write this.


Before Wickedfire

I got started in IM by accident.

In 2002, I had a pretty good full time job, and a lot of free time because I had no real life outside work. I had this crazy idea, having taught myself basic drafting with CAD, to manufacture some computer case accessories.

This was back in the beige box era. I was a hardware hacking enthusiast hanging out on HardOCP and reading every issue of MaximumPC front to back and front again.

My plan was to design some really cool fan grills and then manufacture them and sell to the big computer mod reseller stores in the US, UK and Canada.

I did not really know what I was getting in to. Looking back, I was terribly ignorant about everything. The grill designs I made, no one wanted to buy. They were awesome, but I gave the resellers too much credit as enthusiasts. They generally weren't. They didn't want to sell cool, unique stuff. They wanted cheaply made Asian goods they could mark up 1000% or 2000%.

At this point, I was pretty committed because I had a bunch of money into it and I wasn't clever enough to stop and re-evaluate what I was trying to do. I still thought my designs were great (they were, totally by accident since I am no artist) and I was too dumb to know what I was getting myself in to. So I got a website built with an e-commerce cart with this plan for me to retail my grills direct.

I decided to use a friend of mine who had a web dev company where he outsourced the programming to Mexico. They were to have the site ready by Dec 1st 2002. After yelling and screaming (if you can imagine it, I was infinitely more high strung back then) we got the store up Dec 3 (2 days late). The project was completely, utterly and totally mismanaged by all of us. We were in over our heads.

The store was horrible. It ran like crap. They used MS Access as the database back-end. It was probably programmed by someone who knew nothing about e-comm. Remember, this is back in the relatively early days of the commercial internet. Almost no-one knew anything about e-comm. The entire conversation in the larger tech sphere at the time was “Will people use their credit cards online?”. People didn't really believe e-comm could work, or be much more than glorified digital mail order.

Anyway, I didn't get my first sale until Dec 23rd. Think about that. I spent a bunch of my savings, worked on this for almost a year, and then we launch and I don't have a way to get traffic. I know nothing about SEO or PPC which are infant industries at the time, and my business was online, but for all intents and purposes, non-existent.

Between Dec 3 and 23, I was a basket case, oscillating between being depressed, angry, frustrated and manic.

Then the first sale came, and in what seems to be my style, I took that one sale as a sign that I should invest the remainder of my savings into adding a lot more product. I started importing stuff from Taiwan with the idea that I can beat everyone else to market, who bought in huge quantities and shipped by ocean freight, by getting a smaller quantity shipped by Fedex International in 3 days.

That idea actually paid off. I had what everyone was looking for, while the big resellers had their stuff on a ship, 6 weeks away. Sure, when they landed their product they would have a lot of it to sell, but by that time I would have already set the market price (there was tons of collusion between the two biggest players to keep prices high) and satisfied the leading edge of demand.

I'd like to say this was all tactical genius, but it was just me lucking into something that worked well. There wasn't a lot of planning or forethought. It just worked out. It seems that in every endeavor, it's good to be lucky just so long as you don't confuse being lucky with being good.

I ran the e-comm thing, at what I think was a decent level until 2006. It had become its own full time job, and with my day job which was 50+ hours a week, I was burning the candle at both ends. I started to wear down physically, and that lead to me wearing down emotionally and mentally. When things get tough, I tend to withdraw and this is what was starting to happen.



Life happens

Around this time my best friend died of a drug overdose. I felt pretty bad about it, because in hindsight, there were times he was reaching out to me and if I had been there, maybe things would have turned out different. But I wasn't there because I had tunnel vision with my work, my business and the effects that declining health have on one's ability to accept more responsibility and opportunity.

The day of his funeral, I got a call in the early AM from my mother on the other side of the country. My step father's heart had stopped for a long time during the night and they had to airlift him to the nearest big city hospital for care. He was in a coma, and I missed my friend's funeral which I really didn't have the courage to attend anyway.

I didn't break down, because I don't break down. I just absorbed it all. All of the loss and all of the anger, and frustration, and helplessness. That's what I have always done. I soak it up and carry it with me.

My family didn't really have the resources to handle my step dad being out of commission and my mother at his side, so I started to liquidate everything, and to push my savings towards my parents and sister who took time off work to be with them. After my dad came out of his coma, he was in bad shape, and I flew across the country to see my folks, and to first hand assess the situation. I will simply say that it was bad and on the way home, I decided I had to shut down my e-comm business because I couldn't run it effectively and still be available at the drop of a hat to help my parents.

My dad got accepted to a special care facility a few months later, and their situation, while super tight financially, didn't require my presence. That's when I started to get interested in AM and SEO.

I don't remember how I got to digitalpoint, but from there, I discovered Syndk8. From Syndk8, YACG. From YACG, BlueHatSEO. From BlueHatSEO, Wickedfire.

In the words of the first Leto Atreides, “J'y suis, j'y reste “, “Here I am, here I remain”.

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How we think (or don't)

I really don't have a lot to say about the last 6 years, re: SEO and affiliate marketing. It's somewhat chronicled here, although the more interesting parts never got posted anywhere public.

A lot of you guys do this stuff for a living, I don't have anything to share about writing great copy, or keyword targeting, link building or some other technical nuance that you don't already know. Technical “how to” sort of knowledge has become very common. What I think is still quite uncommon, would be how we approach solving problems when we don't have technical expertise.

Gaming Google had become very easy pre-Panda. Not just easy for the top 3 or 5% of SEOs. It was (and probably still is) very easy for them. It became easy for everyone. People who knew nothing about SEO at a technical level, had very little understanding of the history or techniques of search, etc. If you could run a link building tool, or recruit 3rd world labor (while being in the 3rd world) then you could be a “professional SEO”.

It was like the housing boom of the mid 2000s. Everyone wanted to get into Real Estate. When your aunt wants to quit her job to become a realtor, at the same time that your buddy's wife takes a job at a mortgage company, at the same time that everyone is buying a second house to “fix up and flip”, you know you're in a bubble. A bubble isn't when prices get high, it's when lay people start becoming professional speculators, and all in one expectation direction (infinite positive growth).

Nassim Taleb has this great parable about a turkey. I've mentioned it here before. Basically, a turkey that is well tended by his owner each day, comes to believe that each day he sees that farmer, his treatment will be the same as the last 10, 20, or 100 days.

That's true, until the day before Thanksgiving. That day, the farmer comes out with the intent of not feeding the turkey, but slaughtering him.

The turkey doesn't see this coming.

The farmer always knew that was the plan. This is an asymmetry of understanding.

I think a lot of people (myself included) suffer from these asymmetries. We either don't recognize them, or we become turkeys in denial, thinking that the past predicts the future. We start to believe that the signals we receive can only be interpreted one way and more often than not, irrational optimism leads us to make horribly uninformed choices.

If for want of no other heuristic, anytime you become really optimistic, heat check. It's not that you don't want to be happy and positive, it's that you don't want to be a turkey.

I definitely don't want to be a turkey.



What's next

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I love my current project. It's given me the opportunity and incentive to learn and grow by leaps and bounds over the last 13 months. It's rare that work and play synchronize like that.



I'd like to end this post with a quote from Mark Twain;

"Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that but the really great make you feel that you too can become great.

When you are seeking to bring big plans to fruition it is important with whom you regularly associate. Hang out with friends who are like-minded and who are also designing purpose-filled lives.

Similarly be that kind of a friend for your friends."




This post is dedicated to Jamie, Joey, Tristan, Brad, Gary, Bobby, Alex, Hayden, Pasha, Nick, Jared, Damon, Andrew, Adam, Mitch, Julian, David, George, Norb, Hunter, Andy, Matt, Quinton, Jeff, Adelard, Iain, JD, Rebecca, Marshall, Dan and everyone I didn't mention but probably should have.
 
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Always loving the honesty in your posts even when I disagree with you. Solid 10k thread, you're in this to stay - respect!
 
I credit a portion of my knowledge gained, experience, and success to various posts made by Guerilla/Anand over the years that made the light bulb explode.

You've always helped me when I've asked. You're a great person.

It's funny to think of the impact you've had. The sad part is I don't think you could ever know the impact that you've had.

You can't measure what you've provided. If it means anything, you helped changed my life. I appreciate it, and i'll never forget it.
 
I credit a portion of my knowledge gained, experience, and success to various posts made by Guerilla/Anand over the years that made the light bulb explode.

You've always helped me when I've asked. You're a great person.

It's funny to think of the impact you've had. The sad part is I don't think you could ever know the impact that you've had.

You can't measure what you've provided. If it means anything, you helped changed my life. I appreciate it, and i'll never forget it.

Took the words outta my mouth, literally lol. Never forget the day I messaged Anand feeling like a total noob asking to chat. Ended up getting hired and learned SO much from him. Changed my future career forever.

Inb4 overflow of Skype requests
 
I'm glad you decided to tell your story :) I'll pretend like our Skype chat had a little bit of impact on your decision to do so ;). Good post and perspective.
 
I similarly started my journey with E-comm back in 2000, did well more by luck than judgement. Wasted a load of cash doing real dumb shit but was fortunate enough to make it back with somewhat ease. However I bailed on the whole internet business due to family situations and missed the 'easy' days of SEO. Built a stable career and realised 18 months ago why I started the first online business in the first place. (Freedom from the corporate bosses we come to hate sooo much, freedom to choose how, where and when we work!)

Great though provoking post dude!
 
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Great post. One of the hardest things in life is knowing when you're that damn Turkey. Best of luck and welcome back to WF. Your insights have been missed.
 
Thanks for your honesty and humility in sharing the process. Appreciate everything you've contributed to this forum.

I've certainly learnt a lot from you and continue to do so. You've challenged some very fundamental principles regarding marketing and life. Principles that have made me affirm and or rethink how I've approached a lot of things.
 
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Great post there and thanks for sharing with us over the passed few years. I really enjoyed your story about the custom computer fans, really admired the hustle.

Got to say a big thanks for opening my eyes to more political philosophies and thinking.

+1 rep man.