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Was it really necessary though?! I thought the Japs were broke and close to surrender. The US at the time saw their entire population as vermin and were ready to drop even more bombs on them. The point is, as twisted as the Nazis may have been, the US haven't exactly been saints over the years. Then there's the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions (the Brits are no better). Bin Laden, Gaddafi, Hitler and Hussein may have been exceptions, but look how things turned out for them.

While USA was working on the Manhattan project - Japan was working on it's own super weapon - the Supersub.

A lot of bad timing, setbacks by the Japanese on the supersub is what hurt them the most.
 


dreston is not a bigot because he's being facetious
nazi fetishism is a lot like zombie , pirate or vampire craze that has permeated culture
 
I find it more interesting why the germans became nazis and not other countries. In essence, I think it comes down to the strong value place on both nationalism but equally science and rationalism in Germany. Because there was really nothing in the nazi ideology, anti-semitism, racism etc, that wasn't found in every single other country at the time.

Blatant racism and classifying races and ranking them was the norm at the time. Lots of nazi scientists like the devil Mengele had close ties to the US. I even believe Mengele was an honorary doctor in some US university.

As for why anti-semitism? That was also very common. Henry Ford was a big anti-semitte, as in major anti-zionist. The US was also extremely racist towards blacks at the time. Before WW2 a lot more blacks had been killed due to racial hatred in the US than jews in Germany. But Germany had a lot of jews, the largest population in the world, and there was this idea that the jews had sold out germany in WW1 by getting the US involved in return for Israel. This is somewhat documented by the Balfour declaration, back then everyone knew full well that the Rothschilds were the de-facto leaders of the world jewish community, hence why the Balfour declaration - a british signatory signing over Israel to the jews - was made out to Rothschild.

Things like these led the germans to believe that international jews had used Germany for their own zionist purposes. This idea is called the 'dolchstoss legende' or the stabbing legende, as in stabbed in the back.

Is it true? Probably not, but who knows.

In any case, after that the general sentiment was that the jews were a foreign power within Germany, sort of like how muslims are perceived now.

As for the Holocaust and all that, I believe it has something to do with the german mentality. The Japanese did similar very un-emphatic things and I've always though they reminded me of the germans.

The large majority of germans were just nazis because they saw germany rise again after having been - unfairly - singled out for retribution after WW1. That mistake, the US did not commit again, and therefore came the Marshall help and such things.

Naturally, knowing what we know today, nazism is horrible, but the general ideas of nazism at the time were not very controversial only the scope.
 
I find it more interesting why the germans became nazis and not other countries.

because the NSDAP was the official party of Germany. while other countries did adopt varying degrees of socialism,, they had their own leaders and government structures. Nazism , as an ideology, was embraced by many ethnic minorities or foreigners that fought along Germany.
 
I find it more interesting why the germans became nazis and not other countries.
because the NSDAP was the official party of Germany.
Completely off; both of yas.

Nazism popped up because of the Prussian school system... Yes, the exact same one they modeled US Public schools after:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPnDZ1Txlo]SCHOOL SUCKS: The American Way - YouTube[/ame]
 
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“History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?” - Dan Brown
 
“History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?” - Dan Brown

until wikipedia came along
 
Murdering an innocent person is wrong, period.

The U.S. was in a war with Japan and they calculated that nuking them would elicit complete surrender.

Murdering an innocent person is wrong, period.

It was a strategic move. And it worked.

Murdering an innocent person is wrong, period.

In war, it's kill or be killed. Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki won the war, so from a strategic standpoint it was a complete success.

Murdering an innocent person is wrong, period.

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