4th Grader: ‘I Am Willing to Give Up Some of My Constitutional Rights…to Be Safer’

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Dad Furious After Finding This Crayon-Written Paper in Florida 4th-Grader’s Backpack: ‘I Am Willing to Give Up Some of My Constitutional Rights…to Be Safer’



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The words are written in crayon, in the haphazard bumpiness of a child’s scrawl.
“I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.”
They’re the words that Florida father Aaron Harvey was stunned to find his fourth-grade son had written, after a lesson in school about the Constitution.


Harvey’s son attends Cedar Hills Elementary in Jacksonville, Fla. Back in January, a local attorney came in to teach the students about the Bill of Rights. But after the attorney left, fourth-grade teacher Cheryl Sabb dictated the sentence to part of the class and had them copy it down, he said.
The paper sat unnoticed in Harvey’s son’s backpack for several months until last week, when his son’s mother almost threw it away. The words caught her eye in the trash, and she showed it to Harvey, who said he was at a loss for words. He asked his son, who said Sabb had spoken the sentence out loud and told them to write it down. Harvey said he asked some of his son’s classmates and got a similar answer.
“Everybody has their opinions,” Harvey told TheBlaze. “I am strongly for proper education, for the freedom of thought so you can form your own opinion and have your own free speech in the future… [but] the education is, ‘when was the Constitution drafted, when was it ratified, why did this happen, why did we choose to do this…all these things, why did they particular choose those specific rights to be in our Bill of Rights.’”
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wtf

I'd remove my child from that psyho, Cheryl Sabb's, class. You cannot force your political opinions on such young and susceptible students, with your authority as a teacher.
 
-Matt- said:
You cannot force your political opinions on such young and susceptible students, with your authority as a teacher.
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Sure they can, and they have for a long time. The whole praising and worshiping of the flag every morning, the revisionist history, and all the other pro-state propaganda. Public schools are by the state, for the state. The little letter above is just a natural progression.
 
tomaszjot said:
BTW

How many of you actually try to straight up ideologies your kids learn at school? I realize it will be quite challenging.
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What parents should be doing is not "straightening up ideologies" but presenting your kids with conflicting ideas forcing them to critically think and come up with their own answers.

I know in my case I went to a fairly liberal school, had a moderate conservative dad and a moderate liberal mom.

I remember one very clear moment when I was very young and there was something on the news about how environmentalists were protesting certain actions that oil companies were making and demanding more regulation. I asked my mom what she thought and she told me her opinion. I then, not long after, parroted this opinion to my dad who then sat me down and explained his opinion.

With conflicting ideas being presented to me I couldn't just lazily follow what I was told, and I remember, despite being young at the time (maybe 10 years old) spending quite a bit of time thinking through the two different opinions trying to figure out which one I agreed with and why. It was a much more enriching experience than if I had only heard one opinion and then accepted it as being "correct".
 
This is only a problem if people have Constitutional rights.

Which they don't.

So, no problem.
 
What I wanna know is how the fuck the kid could spell 'constitutional' on the first go, but have problems with simpler words.
 
greenleaves said:
This fine Sirs is called link bait. Some call it SEO, some call it Marketing.
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We all know link-bait.

Is it link-bait if the story is true?

because if thats the case then most of the stories on CNN, Yahoo and other mainstream sites can also qualify as linkbait. How about sandy hook? Was that linkbait too? Just because a story strikes a nerve and is passed around does not necessarily make it link-bait.

This story was posted on yahoo as well. But ya, I get your point if this story were indeed false or posted only by the dailymail or huffington post.
 
loyolabenson said:
We all know link-bait.

Is it link-bait if the story is true?

because if thats the case then most of the stories on CNN, Yahoo and other mainstream sites can also qualify as linkbait. How about sandy hook? Was that linkbait too? Just because a story strikes a nerve and is passed around does not necessarily make it link-bait.

This story was posted on yahoo as well. But ya, I get your point if this story were indeed false or posted only by the dailymail or huffington post.
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That was written in an inflamatory manner intentionally. It is glaringly obvious.

If the child or teacher were really saying that with feeling; they'd say something more along the lines of:

"The world is more dangerous and we need to be flexible with the past to ensure the future"

Or something along those lines. No one who is willing to give up freedom for security wants to view it that way; someone who believes that would never write it that way. It is as if people who have a day job would write: I have a day job because I like to bow down to my corporate overlords in exchange of a false sence of security. No way a career person would say that. They'd view it as "Doing what they like and enjoying a sense of security/stable income to raise a family/etc".

But what do I know. Let's get bent out of shape over that kids note, but not over the Patriot Act, NDAA, etc - And especially important, let's get bent out of shape over it and do nothing about it except possibly bitch to each other.
 
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