75% reversal on azoogle payouts

dtstim

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I have a friend that just had 75% of his payouts reversed costing almost 10k to him. Anyone else have this problem with Azoogle? Any help on what to do. I know for a fact all traffic was legit. There excuse was the leads did not convert as well as they hoped. Sounds shady to me.
 


This is why you should start slow on any campaign you are running, check to make sure that quality is OK, and then ramp up once you get the green light. Doing this will cover your ass and avoid situations like this with networks/advertisers. Going from $0 to $10k in a matter of days (not sure if that is the case with this in particular, but just using it as an example) is only going to raise red flags.
 
This is why you should start slow on any campaign you are running, check to make sure that quality is OK, and then ramp up once you get the green light. Doing this will cover your ass and avoid situations like this with networks/advertisers. Going from $0 to $10k in a matter of days (not sure if that is the case with this in particular, but just using it as an example) is only going to raise red flags.

Who the fuck is this guy?

Going from 0 to 10k in a matter of days is a normal on a good campaign. If there is a daily cap / initial cap, its up to the AM to communicate the cap to to the affiliate or to have that information available on the offer page.

Starting out slow will not "cover your ass", especially when leads are getting reversed weeks down the line . On some networks, I've got offers that are on net 60 and I'm still waiting to be paid for traffic from August. That's part of the game. The only time leads should not be paid is if there is proof of fraud. Otherwise, if an advertiser doesn't cover I'm done with that advertiser and if the network then doesn't cover, I'm done with the network.

OP, your "friend" probably sent fraud traffic. Its pretty unlikely commissions got reversed because "leads didn't back out" and if this is really the case (and the offer didn't mention anything about some type of longer term validation), he needs to keep pushing azoogle until he gets paid. Talk to some advertisers, many will tell you that they always have to pay unless they can prove fraud, and even then some networks will ask them to pay or risk losing other traffic because networks hate this shit.
 
Nice try bro. But it's EpicDirect Not Azoogle! Get your facts right before you post things in forums.

Edit: but yeah Conversions right, if your "clean" you should get paid. especially from a network as big as Az-EpicDirect
 
Who the fuck is this guy?

Going from 0 to 10k in a matter of days is a normal on a good campaign. If there is a daily cap / initial cap, its up to the AM to communicate the cap to to the affiliate or to have that information available on the offer page.

Starting out slow will not "cover your ass", especially when leads are getting reversed weeks down the line . On some networks, I've got offers that are on net 60 and I'm still waiting to be paid for traffic from August. That's part of the game. The only time leads should not be paid is if there is proof of fraud. Otherwise, if an advertiser doesn't cover I'm done with that advertiser and if the network then doesn't cover, I'm done with the network.

OP, your "friend" probably sent fraud traffic. Its pretty unlikely commissions got reversed because "leads didn't back out" and if this is really the case (and the offer didn't mention anything about some type of longer term validation), he needs to keep pushing azoogle until he gets paid. Talk to some advertisers, many will tell you that they always have to pay unless they can prove fraud, and even then some networks will ask them to pay or risk losing other traffic because networks hate this shit.

I wouldn't fuck with Dan, he's from globalizer- the expert of all things media.
 
I wouldn't fuck with Dan, he's from globalizer- the expert of all things media.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I don't know him, I just disagreed with the idea that scaling to 10k in a few days sets off red flags. Maybe if you have never run anything with the network before.

I will say I'm tired of seeing Gretchen on my Facebook ads every single day. Must be working though, its lasted forever.
 
Who the fuck is this guy?

Going from 0 to 10k in a matter of days is a normal on a good campaign. If there is a daily cap / initial cap, its up to the AM to communicate the cap to to the affiliate or to have that information available on the offer page.

Starting out slow will not "cover your ass", especially when leads are getting reversed weeks down the line . On some networks, I've got offers that are on net 60 and I'm still waiting to be paid for traffic from August. That's part of the game. The only time leads should not be paid is if there is proof of fraud. Otherwise, if an advertiser doesn't cover I'm done with that advertiser and if the network then doesn't cover, I'm done with the network.

OP, your "friend" probably sent fraud traffic. Its pretty unlikely commissions got reversed because "leads didn't back out" and if this is really the case (and the offer didn't mention anything about some type of longer term validation), he needs to keep pushing azoogle until he gets paid. Talk to some advertisers, many will tell you that they always have to pay unless they can prove fraud, and even then some networks will ask them to pay or risk losing other traffic because networks hate this shit.

yea i actually agree with dan. scaling too quickly can lead to negative ramifications to the affiliate unless you know with who you are working with (both adv and network). If you scale at a slower pace then you mitigate your risks of the advertiser or network being a bitch and flushing you
 
Who the fuck is this guy?

Going from 0 to 10k in a matter of days is a normal on a good campaign. If there is a daily cap / initial cap, its up to the AM to communicate the cap to to the affiliate or to have that information available on the offer page.

Starting out slow will not "cover your ass", especially when leads are getting reversed weeks down the line . On some networks, I've got offers that are on net 60 and I'm still waiting to be paid for traffic from August. That's part of the game. The only time leads should not be paid is if there is proof of fraud. Otherwise, if an advertiser doesn't cover I'm done with that advertiser and if the network then doesn't cover, I'm done with the network.

OP, your "friend" probably sent fraud traffic. Its pretty unlikely commissions got reversed because "leads didn't back out" and if this is really the case (and the offer didn't mention anything about some type of longer term validation), he needs to keep pushing azoogle until he gets paid. Talk to some advertisers, many will tell you that they always have to pay unless they can prove fraud, and even then some networks will ask them to pay or risk losing other traffic because networks hate this shit.

Good point about leads being reversed way down the line, cant protect against that shizzle