Another 4 Years of Obama?

HustlinHard said:
That's completely incorrect.. The US does employ democracy as their system of government. This is different than the FORM of government, which is a republic. In other words, you are both a republic and a democracy, they describe two different things.
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In a democracy, you vote on the issues. In a representative government (like the one in the US), you vote for representatives who will vote on the issues for you. When the founding fathers were discussing the formation of the government, most of them understood the dangers of direct democracy and designed the system as a representative republic in an effort to avoid those very problems.

I guess ballot proposals would be the only large scale example of democracy that is employed here, and if you want the definition of clusterfuck, look at what Californians have done to their government with ballot proposals. lol democracy democracy lol
 


WickedJoe said:
Ya more on what I was saying above.. my tinfoil hat is telling me that this is also why the Dems and Repubs seem to not agree on any issue at all. It seems on nearly every important stance you can take the opposite team has the polar opposite view. This is abnormal in reality. Who in reality disagrees with every important stance of someone else? Maybe it's like this as a way to cover all bases as far as people's hopes are concerned.

For instance, lets say you're pro-choice but a Repub got elected who said he's going to stop all abortion choices. But since the pres vote was so close (50/50) you're not completely losing hope about the future. You never become disillusioned.

You can repeat the above example with nearly all possible stances because all stances are covered in the repub/dem spectrum.
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What about when they both agree on an issue that many people disagree with - for instance the drug war. Both sides for the most part agree it should be continued when in reality it's a failure and prohibition doesn't work
 
I have been saying this for years. The education system is put in place to create willing slaves for the extreme rich. We create waves and waves of people begging to create more wealth for the wealthy.
 
ly2 from WF said:
Our candidates are just mirrors of the population. Liars, thieves, and losers.

Good luck America.
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yeah, i agree............... american culture is shot, pretty much.....

this explains it all ................................

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I nearly died when i thought i heard her say she's from my hometown............THAHNK GOD SHE"S NOT

BUt unfortunately.. one those reality show's 16 and under + pregnant def had one from my city.

These are representations of our future

And look how most people carry-on, on this forum. LoL Not much better.

Hiding behind computer screens, people show how little respect they carry for the world/community or their own image.

is what it is.
 
OrganicJuice said:
What about when they both agree on an issue that many people disagree with - for instance the drug war. Both sides for the most part agree it should be continued when in reality it's a failure and prohibition doesn't work
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True, but Obama and other dems to pretend sometimes that they're not against weed.. and play with the idea of legalizing it. I'm sure there are other exceptions to what I said above too like Israel support. So not every political option is available through dems and repubs combined but probably most of the ones that citizens want.
 
guerilla said:
Why in God's name would anyone want to make Rand Paul president?

He's not his father. He's a Republican stooge.
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Maybe, but unlike most Republicans, he voted against renewing the Patriot Act, he wants to reduce defense spending, supports legal marijuana, etc.

Interestingly enough, both Ron and Rand vote with their party 73% of the time, according to opencongress.org.
 
Moxie said:
Maybe, but unlike most Republicans, he voted against renewing the Patriot Act, he wants to reduce defense spending, supports legal marijuana, etc.

Interestingly enough, both Ron and Rand vote with their party 73% of the time, according to opencongress.org.
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Someone should have reminded him of that before he told every Ron Paul supporter to go fuck their cause with a giant, sandpapery dildo and vote for rmoney...

Rand has no donation power anymore. He's thrown that away and I doubt he can get re-elected next term.
 
Moxie said:
Maybe, but unlike most Republicans, he voted against renewing the Patriot Act, he wants to reduce defense spending, supports legal marijuana, etc.
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Oh, so he is different than other Republicans. So was Reagan's rhetoric.

Rand has no principles he won't compromise. That's the difference between him and Ron. That is why no one should trust any man, let alone Rand Paul, with power over life and property.
 
lukep said:
Someone should have reminded him of that before he told every Ron Paul supporter to go fuck their cause with a giant, sandpapery dildo and vote for rmoney...

Rand has no donation power anymore. He's thrown that away and I doubt he can get re-elected next term.
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Kentucky Republican Primary, 2012

Mitt Romney 117,621
Ron Paul 22,074



guerilla said:
Oh, so he is different than other Republicans. So was Reagan's rhetoric.
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Reagan AKA guy who Ron Paul endorsed for president.

Rand has no principles he won't compromise. That's the difference between him and Ron.
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And you know this how? Because Rand endorsed Romney? Didn't Ron also endorse Gingrich and Boehner?


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Moxie said:
Kentucky Republican Primary, 2012

Mitt Romney 117,621
Ron Paul 22,074
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1. Which group do you think represented Rand's financial support during his campaign?
2. Not to mention, you know exactly how I feel about the truthfulness of those numbers...


Moxie said:
Reagan AKA guy who Ron Paul endorsed for president.
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As did Guerilla and myself up until we learned the truth. Paul just learned the truth back in 1980.

Moxie said:
And you know this how?
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Because it is the nature of all politicians. Ron is only exempt because he's not trying to become a politician.

Moxie said:
Didn't Ron also endorse Gingrich and Boehner?
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Not the same at all... Ron's endorsement of Newt was just for a house position, almost a decade ago, back when newt voted more in line with Paul. Boehner? That wasn't even for a position of any kind... Boehner happened to be on the freedom side of one BILL that Ron endorsed... Paul did not endorse Boehner at all, just a bill.

C'mon Moxie, you usually do a better job than this... I don't feel like your heart is in it this time; you're just playing antagonist out of habit, amirite?
 
lukep said:
1. Which group do you think represented Rand's financial support during his campaign?
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The Republican establishment got behind Rand after he won the primary. As incumbent, he will be "their guy" right from the get go for the next election. He has one of the highest home-state approval ratings for a senator right now.

A lot of the donors he will be losing were from out of state. Their money helps, but they can't cast votes in Kentucky of course.

you're just playing antagonist out of habit, amirite?
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I didn't call anyone a stooge or mention the use of giant dildos, lol.
 
I'm with Op, fuck that arab. Romney all the way, we're tired of these fucking sandniggers around here. Get him out of the office, and put a proper guy in office whose going to stand up for the righteous man.
 
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