anyone here been to Vietnam?
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You can't get hookers on this level because the hottest ones go to Singapore, Hong Kong, or Japan where the guys are willing to pay $$$$$.
I have been living in Vietnam for awhile and luckily because i have a lot of local friends here so i would say the life here has been easy.
Generally, the south people are more friendly than the north and they are more honest. Also, if people try to scam you by making you to pay more money, you can always try to argue with them. Ask them why the price is different. Speak fucking ENGLISH if you need to because when you react, they will confuse and do not know what to do and then you can just pay them the amount of money that is in the menu. More often than not, this works.
It is because you do not know the right people. My local friends can help me find a few of girls on this level for about $100 - $200 (hourly rate), $500 for a night.
Well, good luck bros, i think that Vietnam is a good place that you should visit.
Generally, the south people are more friendly than the north and they are more honest. Also, if people try to scam you by making you to pay more money, you can always try to argue with them. Ask them why the price is different. Speak fucking ENGLISH if you need to because when you react, they will confuse and do not know what to do and then you can just pay them the amount of money that is in the menu. More often than not, this works.
Dr_Ngo said:
It is because you do not know the right people. My local friends can help me find a few of girls on this level for about $100 - $200 (hourly rate), $500 for a night.
Well, good luck bros, i think that Vietnam is a good place that you should visit.
Hold the phone... Women THAT hot live near you and you've been posting threads full of SG Skanks??? :cool2:
They are prostitutes. It's fine to bang them from time to time, but I do want some emotional connection which is almost impossible to build with a hooker.
If you ever visit Singapore, make sure you go to Brix, it's just at Hyatt Hotel.
BRIX
That place is full of Vietnamese prostitutes at that level of hotness.
I checked the menu at that place. $12 Singapore dollars for french fries? WTF?! I hope the hair pie is a better deal.
From what I understand from this thread living in Vietnam/Thailand is maybe only 20-30% cheaper then living in the west. So why live in Vietnam/Thailand? You'll have a better quality of life/good experiences in countries like Japan, and it'll only cost a little more.
A trip to Nana Plaza answers that question 
But in all seriousness the benefit to Thailand is that it isnt a nanny state...so there is nothing stopping you really from happily living your life however you see fit. This is in comparison to the multitude of crap one puts up with in the west. You really have had to been to a few of these places to experience the feeling of freedom...its kinda weird.
I should say also im not an expat at the moment...back in my western country for the time being.
But in all seriousness the benefit to Thailand is that it isnt a nanny state...so there is nothing stopping you really from happily living your life however you see fit. This is in comparison to the multitude of crap one puts up with in the west. You really have had to been to a few of these places to experience the feeling of freedom...its kinda weird.
I should say also im not an expat at the moment...back in my western country for the time being.
I live here to get OUT of the rat race, not switch it for a new one in a different country.
Everyone has their own reasons. I'm part Vietnamese and I really wanted to learn the language and explore my own culture more. I'll probably live in other countries before I settle down. A benefit of Thailand is there's a lot of internet marketers living here and I have friends coming through like every 3 weeks. I'm guessing for most people Thailand is exotic and more adventurous compared to moving to Canada.
It's definitely not for everyone though. Weather's fucking HOT, the locals are idiots, people always try to rip you off, etc. There's plenty of other great places to live in such as Latin America or Eastern Europe, but I guess SE Asia seems so much more accessible.
I don't think Japan costs a "little" more. You can live pretty well in Thailand for $2,500 a month, living in Tokyo's one of the most expensive places in the world and the language barrier's a bitch. Also not everyone's into Japanese culture.
I don't see what Japan offers that Thailand doesn't as far as quality of life. Bangkok's extremely modern, you're not taking shits in holes in the ground.
People are cheap in the East, things are expensive.
In all these discussions about 'living like a king' you never seem to admit this. You probably, just like me, enjoy having a maid, a doorman, a dirt cheap taxi driver, motocy driver for more than 100 m distances, hot young girls serve you beer/booze in restaurants, massages for less than $10 an hour, freshly prepared meal for $2, everywhere there's about 3 times more employees than in the west.
All of that is only possible because there are no unions to price these people out of the market.
Services are dirt cheap in Thailand and that's why it can feel like living like a king on a small budget. If you're the kind of guy who wants to pay 800 baht for a poor Mexican meal then I think you're getting a bad deal in Thailand. It's even worse when you want a decent bottle of pinot noir and you pay the equivalent of the cashier girls monthly wage for it because of the import taxes.
What I do like about Thailand is that the population actually isn't money grabbing jealous bastards and many don't harbor any ill will against those who are more fortunate. They also don't consider it demeaning to do service work for other people at a reasonably low wage. Where most of us are from, people would rather be on welfare than say 'Sir' or wash your clothes. Thais are not dirt poor at all and have decent social security in the form of health care, government univsersities and temples to feed them if needed. It's not like the Philipines where the poverty police is out to shake a few bucks.
But yeah, I did the math and the kind of lifestyle I'll want as a minimum when I move there the next year is at least going to cost me 100.000 baht a month, but that's with a 2 bed condo in Thong Lor and very comprehensive insurance. Still, it's not the condo which makes it worth it, but the fact that there's a very well functioning micro market for services, which means that whatever need I have, it's easily and quickly covered without any government involvment and no fat public worker to patronize me. That alone is worth it.
In all these discussions about 'living like a king' you never seem to admit this. You probably, just like me, enjoy having a maid, a doorman, a dirt cheap taxi driver, motocy driver for more than 100 m distances, hot young girls serve you beer/booze in restaurants, massages for less than $10 an hour, freshly prepared meal for $2, everywhere there's about 3 times more employees than in the west.
All of that is only possible because there are no unions to price these people out of the market.
Services are dirt cheap in Thailand and that's why it can feel like living like a king on a small budget. If you're the kind of guy who wants to pay 800 baht for a poor Mexican meal then I think you're getting a bad deal in Thailand. It's even worse when you want a decent bottle of pinot noir and you pay the equivalent of the cashier girls monthly wage for it because of the import taxes.
What I do like about Thailand is that the population actually isn't money grabbing jealous bastards and many don't harbor any ill will against those who are more fortunate. They also don't consider it demeaning to do service work for other people at a reasonably low wage. Where most of us are from, people would rather be on welfare than say 'Sir' or wash your clothes. Thais are not dirt poor at all and have decent social security in the form of health care, government univsersities and temples to feed them if needed. It's not like the Philipines where the poverty police is out to shake a few bucks.
But yeah, I did the math and the kind of lifestyle I'll want as a minimum when I move there the next year is at least going to cost me 100.000 baht a month, but that's with a 2 bed condo in Thong Lor and very comprehensive insurance. Still, it's not the condo which makes it worth it, but the fact that there's a very well functioning micro market for services, which means that whatever need I have, it's easily and quickly covered without any government involvment and no fat public worker to patronize me. That alone is worth it.
Nice post, I agree with everything you mentioned.
I guess in Thailand there's always been the "rich" and the "poor" classes. The problem with Americans is everyone feels entitled to a nice 9-5 office job, and any service work is "beneath" them. In Asia a service job in the city > working in the rice farms for 14 hours a day.
Life's just easier in the east:
- Maid 3x a week ($15 total)
- Legit massage ($15 for 2 hours)
- Meal delivery services (Chefsxp.com). You can choose from over 60 restaurants with real food, not just pizza.
- The subway / skytrain is quite good
- Food is easily available anytime within a 5 minute walk. In the states I gotta drive around.
- Weekly Laundry service ($10)
- No tipping required at restaurants.
- If I'm bored I can drive to the beach in Hua Hin in 2 hours. Or I can take a flight to any island in 30 minutes.
Basically I'm less stressed in general, and more time towards my work / hobbies.
