Are you into tactical knives ,weaponry, swords, hunting etc? better buy your shit NOW

no, statistically, untrained people are more likely to injure themselves when owning a weapon. not only that, but your "People for the most part are hurt and murdered by those closest to them" statement has nothing to do with weaponry at all. if someone is hell bent on killing someone, they will do it one way or another.

screaming your head off when you're being held at gun or knife-point is more likely to get you shot or stabbed, because then the person holding you up is going to panic and try to get you to shut up, so you're making your chances even worse.

Maybe he has "special" scream skills like the brothers in PUSH!! lol
 


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No. I was asking if you feel the same way about pepper spray and tasers as you do about guns.

Pacifism to me means non-violence. But I got the impression you were using it to mean, non-lethal force.

I was trying to understand where you were coming from.

and how do I feel about guns? that they shouldn't be used in analogy with condoms?

EDIT: That sounds smart ass. Really I'm kinda confused. You sound like I have an agenda and I made it clear in both statements that I just thought it was an inappropriate analogy.

EDIT again: I looked up pacisfism to see if my statement was applicable. Pacifism is the opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes or gaining advantage. Interestingly enough, I really didn't think my argument against his choice of analogies had an agenda but perhaps subconsciously it did. Really, I thought you could be pacifistic by nature without having a cause, but according to wiki, that's not accurate. So yes, guerilla, I will go with non-lethal instead.
 
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That sounds smart ass. Really I'm kinda confused. You sound like I have an agenda and I made it clear in both statements that I just thought it was an inappropriate analogy.
Don't be confused. I didn't have an agenda. I was trying to better understand your position. You had a unique perspective that was neither strongly for guns, nor totally opposed to them.

Gray is interesting because it comes in so many shades, and the internet is loaded with black and white overreaction.

No hard feelings.
 
Is that you in the video?

No that's not me, just some guy reviewing them on Youtube.

Sticks: Seriously dude, chill out. As it is, knives are pretty restricted here unless you live in a territory anyway. Other than one good rugged survival knife, and a good pocket knife, what are you really needing that shit for? If you have to have, join a fencing a club, and you'll get the license as well as some good exercise. I've got a couple nice pieces still.
As for fights though, if someone draws a knife on you, you're actually much better protected by wearing a nice fashionable pair of steel capped boots, and I say this from experience.
You're less likely to be in trouble for using them defensively ("Honestly officer, I'd just been doing heavy lifting that morning... I had no expectation I'd need to defend myself this evening, and I'm sorry I cracked 5 of his ribs... but he had a knife!"). You've also got a hell of a lot more range with a solid kick than a slash, and people are more likely to try to soak a kick when they're armed because they don't expect blocking it to shatter their shin/hip/arm/etc.
Personal experience bit: Working the Bottle'O in Bris after highschool, I had some guy try to hold me up for the keys to the store. I just went in with a kick to the shin, and the moron tried to block. A sound like breaking a solid tree branch, and he went down like a sack of potatoes with the most surprised look I've ever seen on a guy.
That's one of 3 times I've ever had someone try shit on with me, and I hang out in bad areas... Violent personal crime, perpetrated by people uknown to the victim, is really uncommon here man.

Don't get me wrong. I love cool knives, and have a bunch of memorabilia ones, a few swords from highschool fencing, and a few from WW2 courtesy of family wills... but they're really impractical for a fight without serious training, and if you are much more likely to die from wounds sustained in a knife fight than a gun shot.

Yeah I know I don't need all these weapons, I'm buying them coz I collect them aswell, and I don't like steel cap boots, they weigh you down, and I'd trust a knife/tonfa over steel caps anyday, as I know how to use weaponry properly.

Not only that, I wouldn't use a weapon on an unarmed person trying to attack me, I'd go hand to hand, it's only if my attacker has a weapon also.
 
I walk around prepared, there's a difference.

You're more likely to die from heart disease, infectous disease, cancer, stroke, respiratory infections/diseases, accidents (falling, etc), AIDS, digestive diseases, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis, malaria, lung cancer, road and traffic accidents, childhood diseases, neuropsychiatric disorders, diabetes, suicide, cirrhosis of the liver, Nephritis/nephropathy or measles than from violence (and that includes ALL violence, not just knives and guns)

Yeah, be prepared but some things just aren't worth worrying about.
 
Yeah, be prepared but some things just aren't worth worrying about.
It is always better to be prepared to defend your life, than to be caught with your pants down. Just because you live in a country with domestic tranquility, doesn't mean it will always be so.

No one misses their rights until they need to exercise them and cannot. Then it is too late.

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/NaziLawEnglish.htm
 
Don't be confused. I didn't have an agenda. I was trying to better understand your position. You had a unique perspective that was neither strongly for guns, nor totally opposed to them.

Gray is interesting because it comes in so many shades, and the internet is loaded with black and white overreaction.

No hard feelings.


I'm actually pretty gray about most things (Some may find this hard to believe but just because I have a black or white decision that I've made, doesn't mean that it didn't take me YEARS to get there!!) It's a blessing and a curse. You should see me try to make a decision!! I'll argue with myself for hours (if there's no one around to do it for me) I also always get myself in trouble. Right in the middle of an argument with hubby, I'll say you know a better argument for you would be...and I'll do the whole devils advocate thing and argue myself. It's weird. Hubby says I would have made an awesome lawyer and a terrible judge.

Anyways about the gun thing here my drops of grey: The 2nd Amendment has been completely twisted to fit both sides of the argument. It was most likely meant to address the STATES right to bear arms and have a militia. However it was loosely stated and could have meant individual people gathering together in defense of the State. Therefore people that want to ban all fire arms would be would be wrong as it would impede on the peoples rights to be able to to form a Militia. However people that think they have a right to just go walking around with a handgun wtf? How is that protected by the 2nd amendment? So if you were to pin me down I would say I have no problem with gun control. Our forefathers certainly never intended to let uzi's out into the streets of America. But an all out ban? No way I am an American, after all ;)

Sorry, for the temp derailment now back to the swords and knifes....

Edit: I just noticed I mixed the English and American spellings of gray/grey. Look! even my greys are gray!
 
Living in the UK (i know, i know..) I find it quite hilarious that the U.S government is trying to ban knives before guns? It seems like an incredibly pointless and futile effort. I know you guys like your guns and all that, anyone thought that this might be a law they're trying to pass in, to pre-empt a gun ban?
 
Choice quotes lifted from this article
Americans continue to arm themselves | SmallGovTimes.com

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.”

– Adolph Hitler, Hitler’s Secret Conversations 403 (Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens trans., 1961)

Now compare that to what Thomas Jefferson said to John Cartwright in 1824. Jefferson said:

“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”

James Madison had this to say in The Federalist Papers, No. 46 about American’s gun rights:

“The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

And finally, Patrick Henry, that fiery Founding Father, had some strong words about the people resisting the abuse of power by their government. Henry said this:

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”

“O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone…Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation…inflicted by those who had no power at all?”
 
It is always better to be prepared to defend your life, than to be caught with your pants down. Just because you live in a country with domestic tranquility, doesn't mean it will always be so.

No one misses their rights until they need to exercise them and cannot. Then it is too late.

Nazi Weapons Law of November 11, 1938

Judge Alex Kozinski of the 9th Circuit Court in 2003 wrote in part:

"The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed – where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."

Source: Prescience by Tim Case

I've mentioned CIFTA before. There's very little momentum to push gun control through the legislative process at the moment. However, treaties trump the U.S. Constitution. CIFTA will do what the House and Senate cannot.

For both sides of the issue (Nation and Ron Paul's site)...

Ratify CIFTA

Campaign For Liberty — Obama CIFTA Treaty to Implement Back-door Gun Ban!

We have only to look at past rebellions in other countries in which the people lacked firearms to see how things will go if our own firearms are taken.