Assange Is Fucked

Erm.... I'm not a fan of Wikileaks, and think Assange has made a huge mistake...

But he's not a citizen of the United States of America, so how can he be a traitor here?

I do agree that he is an enemy of the United States and many other countries now, but traitor? Not unless Australia says so, and that's the only country he can be a traitor in.

Arresting and detaining him on these charges was a really foolish idea. Should have just sent out an assassination team and killed him. Our government and many others take this same route many many times. Sure it would create a huge conspiracy theory tsunami, but who gives a shit? It wouldn't stop Wikileaks anyway, because dislike Assange or not, he's just using misdirection and getting the world to focus on him rather than total attention on Wikileaks.

I hate to make this reference, but for the first two years of WickedFire, I acted like and felt like a Julian Assange with Wikileaks. I was humbled after being sued (arrested in his case), and toned the fuck down. I still maintain to this day that I did what I had to, that I enjoyed the publicity for the first 10 months, but then missed my privacy as part of the COMMUNITY and GROUP soon after.

This is the direction things are going in Assange's case, except clearly on a much more serious and far more enormous scale in comparison. Friends of his, real or not, are making an attempt to help him in the beginning, but as this drags on, he'll soon see his own baby (wikileaks) keep soldiering on without his fight being the absolute focus of attention. People he thought were friends will drop him, although there will be those few true supporters and friends that stick by his side fighting the good fight throughout the ordeal and afterwards too. Whatever the outcome, no one will want to hear about what he went through, but they will all nod at him in respect to his face, but behind his back will not hesitate to call him names and their original opinions changed... and on and on and on....

All of this could have been avoided had Assange just kept his mouth shut, stayed the fuck out of the spotlight, and had everyone focus on the collective group with no absolute leader. THEN it would have been "impossible" to target and stop. It would be sorta like the ANONYMOUS campaign, which as much work as the leaders of it are doing, have been smart enough to not break out of the "we're all anonymous" formation, and thus, are able to swiftly apply "justice" on targets that no one in their right mind would consider attacking out of fear of public or private retaliation, but hiding amongst the crowd, are able to participate as they are needed.

Cliff Notes Version = Assange, I feel your pain, even though I disagree with Wikileaks, but if you really wanted to inflict damage, you should have gone the anti-hero route like ANONYMOUS does, and use the collective force of the people to accomplish your objectives. Now, its just a clusterfuck.
 


Would you have supported the gassing of the Jews if the Supreme Court said it was OK?

I think i just hurt myself when I facepalm'ed
 
Would you have supported the gassing of the Jews if the Supreme Court said it was OK?

I think i just hurt myself when I facepalm'ed

Too lazy to look up where that quote came from....

It WAS legal, in Germany during the reign of the Nazis.

In fact, all of what Hitler and his crew of lawmakers imposed on ALL ENEMIES OF GERMANY, was legal... in Germany and its occupied lands of course. And yes, plenty of sane people were all for it, but there were also lots of people against it. And of course, the interwebz didn't exist so all news came from the great mind of Josef Goebbels anyhow.

IDIOT. (not you Barman, well, not for this at least ;) )
 
Bob Beckel is a liberal

Liberal?? Who gives a fuck what his political views are, this fucktard is illegally inciting MURDER!! He should be locked up as should any other dumb ass senators and reporters.

That was the most disgusting vile and obnoxious load of filth I have had the misfortune of watching. So we can now kill journalists on the say so of a bunch of hoohas? So much for freedom and democracy.

That fucker saying "the leader of the free world", give me a break, you mean the bully with the bombs!
 
That fucker saying "the leader of the free world", give me a break, you mean the bully with the bombs!

Ok maybe I went a bit far with that, but we in the west are sick of hearing that your president is the "leader of the free world", as he is not. We never elected him and we enjoy much more freedoms nowadays than the people of the US. By spouting such attitudes you isolate yourselves and if you want to know why a lot of countries dislike the US this attitude is why. We are not the enemies and we supported the US in every recent war effort and take exception to the superior way that your government treats us and bullies our government into getting it your way.

I love the US and the principals for which it stands, but absolutely despise the way it has been taken over by money grabbing warlords who will do everything to oppress all of our way of life.
 
Too lazy to look up where that quote came from....

It WAS legal, in Germany during the reign of the Nazis.

In fact, all of what Hitler and his crew of lawmakers imposed on ALL ENEMIES OF GERMANY, was legal... in Germany and its occupied lands of course. And yes, plenty of sane people were all for it, but there were also lots of people against it. And of course, the interwebz didn't exist so all news came from the great mind of Josef Goebbels anyhow.

IDIOT. (not you Barman, well, not for this at least ;) )

It was Hellblazer of course
 
Ok maybe I went a bit far with that, but we in the west are sick of hearing that your president is the "leader of the free world", as he is not. We never elected him and we enjoy much more freedoms nowadays than the people of the US. By spouting such attitudes you isolate yourselves and if you want to know why a lot of countries dislike the US this attitude is why. We are not the enemies and we supported the US in every recent war effort and take exception to the superior way that your government treats us and bullies our government into getting it your way.

I love the US and the principals for which it stands, but absolutely despise the way it has been taken over by money grabbing warlords who will do everything to oppress all of our way of life.

I don't think America cares what "others in the west" think. If "others in the west" thought right, they would be able to help themselves rather than depend on the United States to help them.

But "others in the west" like to criticize the US while enjoying US support in a myriad of forms, often forgetting that without the US, they wouldn't be enjoying life so much.

I think I understand why you are so pro-Assange and anti-America now.

You are jealous of US power and butthurt that your country is shit.

Case closed, broseph.
 
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I supported previous leaks of wikileaks but this one i do not support, some might think assenge is a hero, He has a superiority complex and he think he can somehow make statements to call out for the resignation of the president of hillary clinton, if you take away the means of communication or to deal with things peacefully as is intended for ambassadors you are left with war.


that said, Hellglazer, you are a brain washed FOX news watcher who doesn't have the foresight to look beyond your petty hatred of the government and look at the big picture. you are the posterboy of if there is gonna be a society downfall it's cause of people like you. you amuse me but more then that i wish people like you would just disappear.
 
In fact, any moment now, Obama will join in to thank xmcp123 and tell us that he's changing his position now, because he now thinks Assange is a pretty swell guy after reading this thread!

man... kinda feel bad. maybe we could pitch in for hellblazer to hire a content writer to handle his next response to xmcp :(

hahahaha this!!!!

xmcp123 - you're a legend.

hellblazer is a fucking dipshit...

Hellraiser got severely ass raped...

An ignorant prick...

What they both said...

I think i just hurt myself when I facepalm'ed...

Ladies and gentlemen, take careful note of the deceiving trick being played upon your mind.

What is occurring here is a quite common tactic of the ideological Left.

They attempt to create the illusion of "consensus".

In this case, not much is needed. Note that their Leftist Leader was destroyed by a very simple question; it was at this point that the leftist worms jumped to his defense.

These slimy sycophants perform their job by saying "pwned", "this", "what he said", licking the lead Useful Idiot's balls, and an assortment of congratulatory words meant to create the impression that a certain outcome was reached. In some cases, this strategy can become self-sustaining with the ignorant newbies eager to prove they're "with it", exploiting their desire to build credibility and fit in.

In some cases, extremely ignorant fools actually believe it and join the bandwagon, thus unwittingly contributing to this strategy.

Finally, take note that in this case it's the usual Libtard crowd: barfag, lord liberal, sohan, and a motley assortment of lefty dingleberries trying to fit in. Hardly any unbiased personalities whose opinions garner any real respect.

They attempt to create the illusion through sheer numbers and collusion. Don't fall for it.

In this case, what triggered the execution of this strategy was a very simple question.

A question that their lead Useful Idiot could not answer.

A question that their lead Useful Idiot tried to evade with a non-answer.

What is the difference between what Assange did and a foreign spy giving state secrets to an enemy nation?

They can't answer it.

Because there is no difference.

The spies simply concealed their actions by releasing the information to ALL nations, instead of their nation of employment.

This accomplishes the same objective, with the additional advantage of concealing the perpetrator.

Don't fall for the Left's deceptive tactics. Look deeper.

All these leftist scum have are dishonest techniques meant to deceive you.

In fact, the revealing of this strategy will force them to deny it and attempt to distract you.

Look below the surface.

Consider the source.

Don't be fooled.
 
In this case, what triggered the execution of this strategy was a very simple question.

A question that their lead Useful Idiot could not answer.

A question that their lead Useful Idiot tried to evade with a non-answer.

What is the difference between what Assange did and a foreign spy giving state secrets to an enemy nation?

Don't really want to get in the middle of this, but I'm pretty sure he answered your question. You may not agree with it, but this is what he said :

Foreign spies take our secrets, give it to their governments, and otherwise keep information secret. They were sent and employed by foreign governments to do us harm. They use their knowledge (and the fact that their enemy doesn't know they know) to attack their enemies. Secrecy is just as much a part of their job and function as penetrating their enemy's secrets is. Secrets make their world go round.

The press on the other hand gives information to the people. Everyone has the information, and everyone knows it.
We protect the right to the press, because we believe in the ideals of freedom, and recognize that a democracy cannot function with the government being able to intimidate the press. A press that is scared of the prosecution is a press that cannot inform voters, and uninformed voters who have their opinions shaped by the government is the road to authoritarianism.

That's not to say the government doesn't get to have secrets: it just means that when the cat is out of the bag they aren't allowed to suppress information. They can pursue the person who illegally took the information, but our news is allowed to continue.
Then he went on to say, "your turn" and challenged you to answer his questions (which you didn't). That was the reason everyone was piling on.
 
Think again you stupid fuck. Bob Beckel is a liberal.
-PWND

You're a really fucking dumb cunt if you think someone who advocates extrajudicial murder is a 'liberal'.

Look the term up for once. It's been taken so far from context it's untrue.
 
You're a really fucking dumb cunt if you think someone who advocates extrajudicial murder is a 'liberal'.

Look the term up for once. It's been taken so far from context it's untrue.

Murder is by definition extrajudicial.
 
Don't really want to get in the middle of this, but I'm pretty sure he answered your question. You may not agree with it, but this is what he said :

That's not an answer. I'm surprised you would fall for that misdirection.

The question is, how are they legally different?

If Assange did it or a foreign nation's espionage service did the exact thing, how are they legally different?

The leftists can't answer it.

Because legally there is no difference.

I would also draw the audience's attention to one of the main liberal operatives Subigo performing the abovementioned technique to perfection.
Note carefully how he attempts to shape your perception of what happened.

Don't be fooled by this loathsome trick.
 
They attempt to create the illusion of "consensus".

In this case, not much is needed. Note that their Leftist Leader was destroyed by a very simple question; it was at this point that the leftist worms jumped to his defense.

are you serious dude you blatantly ignored his questions. unbelievable
 
also stop this 'leftish trick' bullshit -- you understand that this ridiculous bi-partisan bullshit is what fucks up a lot of shit in this country, right? it's a diversion, bro. you're indoctrinated. they've got you by the fucking balls and you're too fucking dumb to realize it.
 
You're a really fucking dumb cunt if you think someone who advocates extrajudicial murder is a 'liberal'.

Look the term up for once. It's been taken so far from context it's untrue.

You missed the whole point dickhead but you dove in like the sheep you are when you heard a trigger word like 'liberal'.

Now GTFO and take your butthurt with you.
 
That's not an answer. I'm surprised you would fall for that misdirection.

The question is, how are they legally different?

If Assange did it or a foreign nation's espionage service did the exact thing, how are they legally different?

The leftists can't answer it.

Because legally there is no difference.

1. Assange didn't steal anything.
2. Assange didn't solicit the theft of anything.
3. As a foreign national, Assange isn't obliged to uphold the laws of the United States outside of the US.

Have I missed anything?