Clickbooth's Blog/Review Guidelines

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coolguy20 said:
Most those guidelines are fine, although this one is strange....
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Yeah the review one is dumb. 99% of reviews are arbitrary and not fair. Not just for these kinds of sites but for anything period.

I am afraid my clickbooth revenue is going to be zero this year.



Again.
 
Yep ( as in I used to run CB in tests & have a few campaign history $$ makers with them ) I ran CB.
No, no way I can see running even a test on a network that has such an open 'no pay' clause.
Thats how I see it. If the merchant don't give them heat they prolly will pay the affiliate. NOW they have fallback to not pay for back leads on a WIDE area of terms never seen before in our Network Terms...
Would be wise for all to re-read the terms of current partners & lookout for the next round of 'revised T&C' emails from NW's.
 
It's funny it came about a month after certain other networks noticed what some of their best earners were doing and were offering to provide review site and blog style landers for their offers.
 
Tyler stays losing too. He could've worded that post much better to make me feel sorry for him. I mean, look at the character on his blog - looks a lot like other "artwork" i have seen too.
 
I laughed pretty hard when I got this email. All I could think about is the webinar Clickbooth did a month or so ago where they told people to MAKE fake blogs because they convert well...hypocrites.
 
Got the email too...thought that was a joke and didn't pay attention.Now,after reading that it was real,
i will have to hire some very good Acai experts to do the reviews and call
Oprah and Rachael to bring Dr.OZ and Dr.Perricone to my place so i can make an interview with them.
Or, I can just change links from another network. Hmm.....tough decision.
 
mfishy said:
Much of this could have been avoided if these clowns actually answered the phone when a customer attempts to cancel.
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Out of curiosity, could these companies would have been able to pay $30+ on trials if they allowed majority of people to cancel after they found out it was a sham?

Also, would you guys promote berries, if these companies paid you on a recurring rev basis instead of lump sum?

Trying to understand this type of business model, and also how and why people were getting $30+ per trial. Enlighten me cause I do not promote diet stuff.
 
BrynYoungblut said:
I laughed pretty hard when I got this email. All I could think about is the webinar Clickbooth did a month or so ago where they told people to MAKE fake blogs because they convert well...hypocrites.
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I listened to that call too. They straight up sad to make fake blogs. It's pretty crazy.
 
I hesitated before chiming in here, but fuck it.
100 percent compliant with regulations and not misleading to the consumer in any way.
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This is actually impossible. Not as in like "omgz we're not skilled enough", but rather as in the FTC guidelines and whatnot are not specific, and intentionally so.
They even say that they look at the "overall picture", not so much the specific rules to the letter.

One other thing I'll point out, is that if a network I work with has my landing page, it's because I trust that network to a huge level. Not so they can audit my shit. Anyone requiring that? I'll rofl while I change all my links over.
Erin Cigich said:
These guidelines aren't just for our affiliates. A few months back we were the first to crack down on advertisers who weren't doing things the right way too: Clickbooth Publisher Affiliate Network and CPA Network. We ensure each of our advertisers is compliant too, in order to protect the pubs and the public. We require each of our advertisers to provide prompt (call answered within 7 mins max) customer service.

All of our advertisers sites experience similar audits. We have a team of counsumer advocate consultants on staff whose sole role is to ensure that what the advertiser is promising the consumer is actually getting.
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That is directly from your site. I can see several immediately that are not at all compliant with any interpretation of the FTC shit that I've ever seen.

I'm really not trying to troll here. But come on. Call it what it is.
This has nothing at all to do with "Benefiting the affiliate", and even Karl Rove couldn't realistically spin it that way.
 
Wow this keeps getting better and better.

First Clickbooth and now Tyler Cruz for a double dose of fat fucking FAIL.
 
"Out of curiosity, could these companies would have been able to pay $30+ on trials if they allowed majority of people to cancel after they found out it was a sham?"

I have a friend who sold a colon cleanse diet supplement a few yrs back. He ran infomercials on that shit.

This stuff costs about $12-$25 per bottle to make. Then you have to pay the affiliate, the network, and the rest left over is for yourself. So you end up making about $30 per bottle gross as the manufacturer. Less if you have a business partner. There is no way they could sell this shit for less than $80.

The whole reason they do the forced trial is because way less people would be willing to spend $80 on one bottle of a colon cleanser/acai pill and if people were able to cancel they would have way lower profit margins.

Not saying its right. Just stating the facts.
 
sweeppicker said:
"Out of curiosity, could these companies would have been able to pay $30+ on trials if they allowed majority of people to cancel after they found out it was a sham?"

I have a friend who sold a colon cleanse diet supplement a few yrs back. He ran infomercials on that shit.

This stuff costs about $12-$25 per bottle to make. Then you have to pay the affiliate, the network, and the rest left over is for yourself. So you end up making about $30 per bottle gross as the manufacturer. Less if you have a business partner. There is no way they could sell this shit for less than $80.

The whole reason they do the forced trial is because way less people would be willing to spend $80 on one bottle of a colon cleanser/acai pill and if people were able to cancel they would have way lower profit margins.

Not saying its right. Just stating the facts.
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Depending on formulation your cost numbers are WAY too high- and most of the shit pumped out in continuity programs costs between $5-8/bottle (1 month supply) which includes product, bottle, label, and sometimes outer packaging.

It's widely known that most companies are in the red off the bat and only making it up on re-bills, some trying to fix this issue by cross-selling all sorts of other shit that fucks our conversion rates by pre-popped opt-in.

While it's true MANY customers have no idea that they're engaging in a free trial- one of the huge reasons continuity is used for products like this is the on-fence factor- thus letting the product "prove" itself "in your home" (ala Bowflex, or anything else sold on TV).

The number of consumers who send in positive testimonials saying they've been on ____ for several months are are doing great, blah blah blah is shocking to me- I'd expect that to be a once in a blue moon case- but it isn't.

Of course if you find the right companies they actually pickup the phones immediately when you try and cancel and then have operators trained to sell you back (think trying to cancel cable tv) or offer to give you a free month, another product, whatever. You can also find those willing to pay recurring revenue based on rebills (though as we've all seen from other threads apparently folks in Utah can't manage to sort the complex mathematics of doing this out).

You ever picked up a mens magazine with the "sexual enhancement" fake story in the back about meeting some girl on an airplane or traveling to asia and finding a secret? Uh- hello print version of the fake blog. This is now not okay even though they have disclaimers on that?

Bullshit.
 
"This stuff costs about $12-$25 per bottle to make."

Colon = $3 tops (for what they are selling). Fact.
 
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