Detained for Open Carry (Guy owns officers)

They don't like the competition.

Being a cop only works if you're a monopoly. If people can get defense and property protection anywhere, you can't just beat people up, stop anyone anytime (might have to face their defense agent!), embezzle, murder, and extort.


I already replied, I am not a citizen. There are no citizens. I can't renounce a delusion that millions of people believe in, because I never believed it in the first place.

I know your are not a "citizen" as per your text book definition. Let me rephrase this in a way you may be able to understand. Is there a country that is under the delusion that you are a "citizen" of its society?

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it does not exist. Why dont you give up the delusional rights that you enjoy everyday? If you really believe you are not a citizen then why not make it official?
 


just show him your permit get it over with stop wasting time...

no... you are missing the point... someone reported a man walking around with a gun.

you think he doesnt have the right to ask for his permit?...

could someone please explain to me, why Americans think that b) that cops shouldnt be able to demand a permit?

Maine doesn't require any permit to open carry as far as I am aware.
 
some day people might have to be required to carry permits for not getting anal cavity searches. sounds stupid, but anything sounded stupid at some point before it became common practice. what about then? do you preemptively goatse in front of every police officer? maybe you walking around with pants might be seen as trolling for police interaction.

You'll need a permit to conceal your own asshole. Why would you want to conceal your own asshole though? I mean, unless you have something you shouldn't have up there, there shouldn't be any problem with giving anyone who has passed a rudimentary 12 week training course and a standardized test designed to weed out and disqualify the most intelligent people who take it the right to have a look at your anus.
 
no... you are missing the point... someone reported a man walking around with a gun.

you think he doesnt have the right to ask for his permit?... the cop realizes this guy is just a time waster know it all and is too much of a pussy to ever do anything

you're a fucking idiot if you think the guy w the gun was in the wrong.

no surprise you fly an PKM sig lol. another yusif tard.
 
You'll need a permit to conceal your own asshole. Why would you want to conceal your own asshole though? I mean, unless you have something you shouldn't have up there, there shouldn't be any problem with giving anyone who has passed a rudimentary 12 week training course and a standardized test designed to weed out and disqualify the most intelligent people who take it the right to have a look at your anus.

policework by its very definition is designed to attract the worst scum the world has to offer.

is that mark cuban on your avatar?
 
dmnEPC, you're not going to win an argument like this. No amount of what you think is "logic" is going to change the laws of the land and the inalienable rights of the people that live there. End of story. /thread
 
gurilla you're not going to win an argument like this. No amount of what you think is "logic" is going to change the laws of the land and the inalienable rights of the people that live there. End of story. /thread

Fixed that for you. You just summed up my whole point
 
Is there a country that is under the delusion that you are a "citizen" of its society?
Maybe. I have never met a country.

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it does not exist.
You have this backwards. I don't believe in it because it doesn't exist.

Why dont you give up the delusional rights that you enjoy everyday?
What delusional rights? Haven't I explained twice already that I can't give up a delusion I never held?

If you really believe you are not a citizen then why not make it official?
It is official. It's a fact.
 
Fixed that for you. You just summed up my whole point

Under Terry v. Ohio 392 U.S. 1 (1968), law enforcement officers are permitted to conduct a limited warrantless search on a level of suspicion less than probable cause under certain circumstances. In Terry, the Supreme Court ruled that when a police officer witnesses "unusual conduct" that leads that officer to reasonably believe "that criminal activity may be afoot", that the suspicious person has a weapon and that the person is presently dangerous to the officer or others, the officer may conduct a "pat-down search" (or "frisk") to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon. To conduct a frisk, officers must be able to point to specific and articulatory facts which, taken together with rational inferences from those facts, reasonably warrant their actions. A vague hunch will not do. Such a search must be temporary and questioning must be limited to the purpose of the stop (e.g., officers who stop a person because they have reasonable suspicion to believe that the person was driving a stolen car, cannot, after confirming that it is not stolen, compel the person to answer questions about anything else, such as the possession of contraband).
 
dmnEPC, you're not going to win an argument like this. No amount of what you think is "logic" is going to change the laws of nature and the inalienable rights of organisms inhabiting this planet. End of story. /thread

we will witness a major reform to society. wait for it. just be prepared.
 
Fixed that for you. You just summed up my whole point

WTF are you talking about man? The thread is about people's rights to openly carry arms with the expectation that the police aren't going to harass them. Why? Because it's well within their rights and the laws for them to do so.

Arguing anything to the contrary is just stupid. Stop now.
 
WTF are you talking about man? The thread is about people's rights to openly carry arms with the expectation that the police aren't going to harass them. Why? Because it's well within their rights and the laws for them to do so.

Arguing anything to the contrary is just stupid. Stop now.

I'm not. I am strong proponent of the right to carry and I choose to excersise that right on a regular basis. I also am viamently opposed to being harassed by the police and anyone else that interferes with that right. And before going down the rabbit hole with Gurilla my only point was this guy was trolling and makeing a situation out of something that shouldn't have been one. That officer wasn't harassing him. He was only trying to determine if he was a threat. Thats it nothing more nothing less.
 
EDIT: Hrmmm...... since i am way late to the party ill say this

"He's not the hero that Portland wants... but he's the hero Portland deserves."

Or as mentioned in this thread. I love any nutter who will always stand up to authority no matter how silly it might seem. Because they'll do it when it counts too.
 
Late to the party, but:

I don't see a problem with it in general. It's people like that guy that help keep our rights available. If you really think about it, the only reason that most people even called it in to the police is the fact that we don't exactly spell out or publicize that open carry is legal in certain states, or in general. Same with conceal & carry (I say this because I'm in MD). Most have been taught even from a young age that guns are bad, and stay away from them. If you see one, something bad is going to happen. Example: the police officers that go into schools to show the kids that guns are bad. I'm not saying that's wrong, I think it's great. However, no one tells those kids that when they grow up with the right control / supervision they can learn how to properly handle one and shouldn't be scared of it.

You should be scared of the person who's holding it, depending on who it is. If someone's uncle holds a gun, you shouldn't be scared if they know what they're doing. If you're not even taught how to tell if it's loaded or not, you'll be equally as scared if it's someone standing there that you don't know holding one, and your uncle 5 feet away pointing it at the ground. There needs to be a difference.

My whole rationale is this (above and beyond the whole "these are our rights"): if he was walking down the street in the same fashion he just was while concealing and no one saw it, no one would report it or even think twice about it. If he was walking down with no weapon what so ever, then no one would report it or think twice about it. The meaning of "suspicious activity" that the people reporting it are most likely thinking is that ... he has a gun. It's suspicious.

Personally, if it was easier to get a C&C here in MD and I had a wife and kids, I would take it with me to the beach as well. I'm protecting my family. Unfortunately I can't completely rely on the police to get to a situation in time to prevent or even mitigate anything involving a gun. Why? It wouldn't be reported until it was already started / over.

IMO it's like condoms. It's better to have it and not need it, than to have it and need it. But regardless of use, you need to know how to use it.

But again, just my 2 cents.
 
come on...guy was a total fucking tool for having that shit out in the open. what if that cop was having a bad day?
 
come on...guy was a total fucking tool for having that shit out in the open. what if that cop was having a bad day?

First, he has the right to do so.

Second, I'm not sure about Maine but in many states open carry is a legal right, while conceal and carry requires you to register with the state. Given the choice, I'd rather not let the state know I'm a gun owner.

Third... I'm replying to a troll.
 
The people in this thread defending that cop are the same type of dumb fucks that would call the cops because they see a guy with a gun.

A bunch of ignorant sheeple...