^^ Agreed x2. Especially on the Motivation part. He doesn't really need any more money... Unless you think Trump is going to literally try to take over the world, he's already got everything that a billionaire could buy.
Donald Trump is mad as hell
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China's government is not just Communist, it is Evil. Although their heads of state operate with an appreciation for capitalism, the way they treat their citizens is anything but. I'm sure I could find at least a hundred references to their evil deeds, like the extermination of entire ethnic minorities, but for now I'll just leave you with these two pics to jog your memory:
Now remember, they've already got the largest population of the world, using the most land in the world for any one country; yet they are so overcrowded that they force their citizens to limit children to 1 per family. They are still growing in population though, so those people have to go somewhere. That somewhere is everywhere, including here, eventually.
Since all the money in the world winds up in China nowadays, they WILL own the USA outright. It's only a matter of years. Likely under 30 at the current rate.
So basically, it is conceivable that if the USA doesn't stand up to China, one day it will be YOU standing in front of a PLA tank.
Cummon guys do you not know anything about these mega capitalists? Their aim is always MORE. It's not even about money it's about everything, they want EVERYTHING they can and why not, that is how capitalism works, the one who dies with the most wins. BUT, this is not the right person to be controlling a superpower as they wont give a fuck about anything else but winning (in their eyes) and for the common man this means wars and dirty tricks.
Nothing wrong with being a very successful capitalist, however you need to be of a very specific moral character and I firmly believe the saying "behind every great fortune is an even greater crime".
Nothing wrong with being a very successful capitalist, however you need to be of a very specific moral character and I firmly believe the saying "behind every great fortune is an even greater crime".
China's government is not just Communist, it is Evil. Although their heads of state operate with an appreciation for capitalism, the way they treat their citizens is anything but. I'm sure I could find at least a hundred references to their evil deeds, like the extermination of entire ethnic minorities, but for now I'll just leave you with these two pics to jog your memory:
Now remember, they've already got the largest population of the world, using the most land in the world for any one country; yet they are so overcrowded that they force their citizens to limit children to 1 per family. They are still growing in population though, so those people have to go somewhere. That somewhere is everywhere, including here, eventually.
Since all the money in the world winds up in China nowadays, they WILL own the USA outright. It's only a matter of years. Likely under 30 at the current rate.
So basically, it is conceivable that if the USA doesn't stand up to China, one day it will be YOU standing in front of a PLA tank.
Dude!
China's war crimes past and present have no baring on this debate, this is about economics. Funny how people don't give a fuck about human suffering until money becomes involved. Look at Kuwait and then look at Darfur. This is propaganda at its best, deflecting from the real issue. China's war crimes were unimportant when they had no money, but now they have loads of it their crimes are being debated all over. Very transparent, obvious and disgusting in my opinion. No point in going to help a bunch of dying Africans with no money.
Let me play a game and reverse what you said and if it was me saying "Since all the money in the world winds up in US nowadays, they WILL own the World outright" you would be saying "fuck yeah!". Nice double standard there.
China is winning the battle of the capitalists and instead of moaning you need to find a way of reversing that and beating them at their own game (without starting a fucking war).
Oh and by the way China is the number one holder of US Treasury Bonds, holding about 1 Trillion, do you not think that if Mr Trump gets into power that could be a problem?
Also, what has their population growth got to do with anything? What do you suggest, nuke them?
So a large amount of money can't be made legitimately?
There is your problem, right there.
Lots of ppl on this board don't commit crimes nor kill anyone to make their fortune. Heck, lots of top billionaires like Gates and Buffet have flat-out given hundreds of millions of dollars to charities, and plan to give at least 50% of their wealth away before they die.
You're absolutely, positively wrong on this point. There is a day in the life of all billionaires who aren't completely psycho to put goodness out into the world once they personally feel they have achieved everything possible and start getting bored.
It may be argued that Trump is there yet; but he's not completely psycho.
Sorry man but no one on this board is even close to being in the same league as the people with the "great fortunes". And Bill Gates??? Really??? Do you know nothing about how he does business and how he has built his company?
I respect the fact that the billionaires are giving a big chunk of their money away, but it doesn't make them good people. If I made a billion by sex trafficking under age girls and then gave 1/2 of it away to a child abuse charity that would make me a saint right? If I mug you and then give half the money to a homeless guy does that make it alright and me a good person?
When it comes to Buffet he is my idol, so I have nothing bad to say about the man and concede your point when it comes to him
I respect the fact that the billionaires are giving a big chunk of their money away, but it doesn't make them good people. If I made a billion by sex trafficking under age girls and then gave 1/2 of it away to a child abuse charity that would make me a saint right? If I mug you and then give half the money to a homeless guy does that make it alright and me a good person?
When it comes to Buffet he is my idol, so I have nothing bad to say about the man and concede your point when it comes to him
Well it's very important to me, and Trump's the first one who decided to call a spade a spade.
Because I'd rather the whole world be a friendly democracy, not because I'm a nationalist. (Which I am certainly not.)
If China wins this game we're talking about, you can expect a forecast of darkness and evil. Our big brother problems over here now will look like pure heavenly bliss by comparison.
I agree we'd lose that war without a surprise nuke attack on Beijing... And I wouldn't condone such an evil thing so basically the only 2 ways forward with China for the US are:
1. They buy us outright and annex us to become Chinese soil in time.
2. We set strong policies that favor our own job growth that piss off China as much as possible without crossing the line. If we keep this up for years then we'll hurt their economy and rebuild ours.
It is VITAL we get started at option #2 here as fast as possible because it takes time and China's economic growth is about to skyrocket with the completion of their All-Eurasian High-speed trains this decade.
Since no other presidential hopefuls are even talking about China as if any problem at all exists, it really would seem to be America's very last chance to survive a future Chinese takeover. (Without using nukes)
The problem exists already. Trump+TBonds do not make a bigger problem than TBonds alone.
If anything I think Trump +TBonds would have a far better outcome than Palin+Tbonds, Romney+TBonds, Boehner+TBonds, or perhaps even Obama+TBonds. (I've yet to rule on that decision, but so far it's leaning towards the guy who recognizes the problem openly.)
It is one of their incentives (and a strong one at that) to annex more land. What worries me is that I'm standing on the best land for them to annex.
I'm just sayin' look around, man, not everyone is evil! Money doesn't always corrupt.
Well I've read a bio on him, and I closely followed his court drama where he tried to use unfair business practices to create a software monopoly by inserting IE into every new windows computer.
BFD. He didn't even succeed in the end anyway. Unless you're one of the tinfoil-hat wearing folks that believe "AntiTrust" was a real story about Bill Gates, then I don't see anything in his history that would put him in league with Sex Traffickers nor Muggers.
Of course I don't put him in the same league as sex traffickers or muggers, I was just making a point about how giving a lot of money to charity doesn't necessarily have to mean the person is good, no matter how much they give.
And I wasn't actually referring to Anti-Trust as in my opinion he had every right to bundle whatever he wanted into his own OS. I am referring to how he built the company in the first place.
And I wasn't actually referring to Anti-Trust as in my opinion he had every right to bundle whatever he wanted into his own OS. I am referring to how he built the company in the first place.
More arrogance in the white house is only going to screw us. He's clueless on foreign policy and international finance.
It cracks me up that he actually believes that he can walk into an OPEC meeting and arrogantly demand anything from these goons. Might work with his employees, but it ain't gonna work with China or OPEC.
I can see him throwing tantrums in the whitehouse like a two year old that needs a nap. At best, the rest of the world will surely laugh at us if we put this clown in the white house, at worst he will create even more problems and dig the hole deeper.
It cracks me up that he actually believes that he can walk into an OPEC meeting and arrogantly demand anything from these goons. Might work with his employees, but it ain't gonna work with China or OPEC.
I can see him throwing tantrums in the whitehouse like a two year old that needs a nap. At best, the rest of the world will surely laugh at us if we put this clown in the white house, at worst he will create even more problems and dig the hole deeper.
Not really..
List of countries by exports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by imports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It looks like about 10% of the world's exports are from China, but they also import a ton. Germany's exports are right up there and their population is nothing compared to China.
As for Trump, he's made a lot from merchandise with his image on it and I doubt much of it was made in the USA.
if you watched the interviews he says as much....and that it is bc the US simply cant compete in pricing. he is a businessman and would be a fool to choose the higher priced american goods. it isnt his fault our shit leadership has cultivated this disadvantage.
It's true, the chinese are out eat our children. /ignorance
Wow. Just because a country is doing better than america...
Wow. Just because a country is doing better than america...
(if china was an affiliate marketer)
They take your website, and clone it. They then put it on a .info domain, and use currency manipulation to run ads with your exact text for pennies to your dollars for clicks.
In a matter of days you are broke, and you get a job.
You get a job at the neighbors factory... at a fraction of the $.
You end up broke and need a loan.
They loan it to you, at the same time they steal the plans for the product your neighbor makes. They then sell clones of that product for a fraction of what the original is worth.
The factory goes out of business and you end up on unemployment because you can't find a job.
The government really can't afford to pay it to you, but you are damn glad you have it because at least you can buy pirated software and movies to entertain yourself with. It's o.k. China will loan the money to the government to pay your benefits with. Your kids can pay it off, if they can get a job after college since all those factories are closing.
As depression kicks in and you find you need some medication you head to walmart where you buy some tylenol and some chow for your dog with your last 10 bucks.
You both get sick from sub quality goods.
You die.
You get buried in a casket made in china. It's got toxins on the handles. Your kids are pall bearers and they at least get to appear on an episode of house to diagnose why they are all sick.
If they get better, they will start getting SSI since their father died. China will loan the government the money.
They use the money to go to college. Where they work hard, get a great degree, and have to go work for the Chinese since nothing is made in america anymore for longer than a year before Chinese companies ignore patents and start making it.
They eat something with toxins in it since there aren't EPA rules in china that can't get ignored for a bribe. The plane their bodies fly back to the U.S. in will be of course made in China by then. The door to the baggage compartment in the plane will be faulty.
Their casket will fall out of the plane and land on a deserted island, where they come back to life and have to battle good and evil until the plot is completely lost. There will be snakes of black smoke that make no damn sense.
You obviously hate children.
Can someone explain this unfair 'manipulating currency' thing to me?
It seems China buys a large amount of US currency, to the point that their is so much demand for the USD that its actually priced higher - but they really are buying this US currency.
However we come to the marketplace with money that doesn't really exist yet, that we never created or earned, instead money we just created by writing it into the books as debt. And this is how the vast majority of our money is made, by creating it out of thin air as debt
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8"]YouTube - Money As Debt (1 of 5)[/ame]
It seems China buys a large amount of US currency, to the point that their is so much demand for the USD that its actually priced higher - but they really are buying this US currency.
However we come to the marketplace with money that doesn't really exist yet, that we never created or earned, instead money we just created by writing it into the books as debt. And this is how the vast majority of our money is made, by creating it out of thin air as debt
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8"]YouTube - Money As Debt (1 of 5)[/ame]
Describing a currency as being manipulated is like describing water as being wet. All currencies are manipulated.