Easiest Way to have multiple adsense accounts?
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Easiest is probably DBA. All you really have to do is get the form online, bring it to county's office.
junio,
Definitely a dba is the way to go. The easiest way to get a new mailing address is to use suites. Most office buildings have mailing addresses that are the same but then say suite #123 or something. Adsense of course recognizes this as a seperate address. If you get them mailed to your house you can always say suite #12, suite #13 and so on and so forth. this typically doesn't work of course if your in an apartment building or already in a building with suite #'s. This was my second alternative i took after doing the po box thing. I shouldn't be saying this but after the suite thing to my personal home i moved on and got mail forwardings. I got a buddy of mine who builds large housing communities to give me fake house numbers. then i went to the post office and one by one put them as a forwarding address to my suites. Which doubled my mailing addresses. I dont' know if that'll help you but it may.
Best advice. If your going to roll with multiple adsense accounts don't forget to age them first. Rotate them through your white hat sites first till they get their first check and pass the one month waiting period, cus thats when google is most likely to double check the legitimacy of your sites. Then once they get their first check then put the account on your spammy stuff and rotate in a new adsense account. then try to keep each account above $300/month but below $2,500/month to avoid suspicion.
hope that helps.
Definitely a dba is the way to go. The easiest way to get a new mailing address is to use suites. Most office buildings have mailing addresses that are the same but then say suite #123 or something. Adsense of course recognizes this as a seperate address. If you get them mailed to your house you can always say suite #12, suite #13 and so on and so forth. this typically doesn't work of course if your in an apartment building or already in a building with suite #'s. This was my second alternative i took after doing the po box thing. I shouldn't be saying this but after the suite thing to my personal home i moved on and got mail forwardings. I got a buddy of mine who builds large housing communities to give me fake house numbers. then i went to the post office and one by one put them as a forwarding address to my suites. Which doubled my mailing addresses. I dont' know if that'll help you but it may.
Best advice. If your going to roll with multiple adsense accounts don't forget to age them first. Rotate them through your white hat sites first till they get their first check and pass the one month waiting period, cus thats when google is most likely to double check the legitimacy of your sites. Then once they get their first check then put the account on your spammy stuff and rotate in a new adsense account. then try to keep each account above $300/month but below $2,500/month to avoid suspicion.
hope that helps.
Doing Business As. Instead of using your name, you can use your business name instead.
i can't think of a single good reason to give google a correct ss # or ein? its not illegal for google to have the wrong ss# and if they did they would have no way of knowing. They don't do credit checks. Googles reports to the irs for out payments don't and CAN'T include your ss#. the irs can still easily track the payments through the DBA should they audit, and if anyone bitches you can always say you meant for that 4 to be a 5. Typos happen 
I'm not saying do any form of fraud especially tax fraud, just don't ever sign the dotted line if you don't have to.
I'm not saying do any form of fraud especially tax fraud, just don't ever sign the dotted line if you don't have to.
i don't know a whole lot about the system but from my understanding the only way to verify a ss# is through the personal credit. Which would show up as a Ting on your next credit report. A whole ton of ppl would be having konipshits if they found tings from google and other online businesses on their reports. Not to mention i don't think the four major credit agencies in the US would be very keen to the idea of allowing this. EINs on the other hand are a totally different story. You can look them up easily on the sbr. Although i'm sure google doesn't bother. Theres no advantage to using a fake dba or fake name because then you simply just couldn't cash the checks. I on the other hand can get away with two names. Since my real first name is david and I go by my middle Eli i can deposit checks written under either name. Which once again gives me the ability to have even more accounts and less DBAs haha.
Of course please don't take strictly my word on it. Do your own research, i live in a state with no sales tax and other weird tax laws so definitely do your own research before attempting anything.
haha. Of course please don't take strictly my word on it. Do your own research, i live in a state with no sales tax and other weird tax laws so definitely do your own research before attempting anything.
i don't know a whole lot about the system but from my understanding the only way to verify a ss# is through the personal credit. Which would show up as a Ting on your next credit report. A whole ton of ppl would be having konipshits if they found tings from google and other online businesses on their reports. Not to mention i don't think the four major credit agencies in the US would be very keen to the idea of allowing this. EINs on the other hand are a totally different story. You can look them up easily on the sbr. Although i'm sure google doesn't bother. Theres no advantage to using a fake dba or fake name because then you simply just couldn't cash the checks. I on the other hand can get away with two names. Since my real first name is david and I go by my middle Eli i can deposit checks written under either name. Which once again gives me the ability to have even more accounts and less DBAs
Of course please don't take strictly my word on it. Do your own research, i live in a state with no sales tax and other weird tax laws so definitely do your own research before attempting anything.
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deliguy - "the irs for out payments don't and CAN'T include your ss#."
What do you mean? Doesn't Google pay you as an independent contractor, and REQUIRE a valid SSN or EIN? Don't they 1099 you every year? (1099 is a tax form that shows income paid to you by "someone" who did not withhold taxes on your behalf, and that income IS reported to the IRS, and subjected to taxes in the US).
I would not suggest ANY OF YOU use an invaild SSN.. First of all, there are SSN algorithms that are used to validate SSNs, I am sure Google does this, but it wouldn;t surprise me if they don't. But secondly, if you use a SSN that belongs to someone else, all YOUR income derived from Adsense will be reported on THAT person's SSN, and eventually (it may be years) a red flag will be raised and the IRS will come a-lookin'.. Think about it.. You use the SSN of someone making $25k/yr, that person files their taxes by 4/07, the IRS gets their tax return showing $25k in income, but according to their records, an additional $500k was paid to someone using that SSN by Google.. Now you're involved in tax fraud, and I don't care if you forward addresses, or use "suites" to fool the Google address comparison, it could spell TROUBLE for you, and JAIL TIME.
Be careful, why try to cheat the sytem and risk going to jail?
(ps) For your reading pleasure:
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99184,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/htext/d04529t.html
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What do you mean? Doesn't Google pay you as an independent contractor, and REQUIRE a valid SSN or EIN? Don't they 1099 you every year? (1099 is a tax form that shows income paid to you by "someone" who did not withhold taxes on your behalf, and that income IS reported to the IRS, and subjected to taxes in the US).
I would not suggest ANY OF YOU use an invaild SSN.. First of all, there are SSN algorithms that are used to validate SSNs, I am sure Google does this, but it wouldn;t surprise me if they don't. But secondly, if you use a SSN that belongs to someone else, all YOUR income derived from Adsense will be reported on THAT person's SSN, and eventually (it may be years) a red flag will be raised and the IRS will come a-lookin'.. Think about it.. You use the SSN of someone making $25k/yr, that person files their taxes by 4/07, the IRS gets their tax return showing $25k in income, but according to their records, an additional $500k was paid to someone using that SSN by Google.. Now you're involved in tax fraud, and I don't care if you forward addresses, or use "suites" to fool the Google address comparison, it could spell TROUBLE for you, and JAIL TIME.
Be careful, why try to cheat the sytem and risk going to jail?
(ps) For your reading pleasure:
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99184,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/htext/d04529t.html
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I have to agree with you on most of that, definitely don't do any form of fraud. However giving an incorrect social security number to google is definitely not classified as fraud. Likewise you are just a payee under a set of terms of service, not under a private contractor or any other form of contractual agreement. Once a year when they do their year end taxes they have to state al the individuals and companies they paid more than $300 to. As a company you have to do this for everything. Like if my company bought $700 worth of stuff from newegg i have to add them to the list and say how much. I don't and can't include their ein. All they include to the government is your name and how much they gave you. That is it! mailing a huge list of social security numbers and eins is not a very smart thing. There is only one thing you MUST give your social security number out to. Thats the government(irs, dmv, school etc.). You technically don't even have to give it to an employeer although they will require it to follow immigration laws. I can't force an employee of mine to give me their social security number, but i can simply refuse to hire them if they don't. Likewise that employee can't get arrested for giving me the wrong ss(unless of course they are an illegal alien or are stealing someone elses identity). Giving a company like google someone elses ss# is not identity theft. Eitherway yes i agree don't do any form of fraud.
Deliguy,
have you ever been "caught" or any experiences that have been bad with google? For instance you said, to try to keep the amoutn u earn below 2.5k/month, have you ever gotten caught because you went drastically? or anything like that. thanks.
have you ever been "caught" or any experiences that have been bad with google? For instance you said, to try to keep the amoutn u earn below 2.5k/month, have you ever gotten caught because you went drastically? or anything like that. thanks.
haha of course. I've only had a couple accounts deleted before. By saying keep it below 2.5k i was refering to sites that are clearly against the TOS. If you got a legit site go as high as you'd like. I found 3k+ or any major drastic jumps draw suspicion. Which is way i say keep it at 2.5 so if you suddenly get some major serp jumps or anything. Also sharp rises in avg cpc and ctr. There is now way other than personal experience to know the limits you can push a single adsense account. It's not one of those things they are willing to talk about. From my experience though it does seem to be pretty damn difficult to get an account banned. However I did get busted one time for merely testing something that was waaaaaay beyond the limits of the TOS. It must have raised some serious security flags. I even had several of the adsense ppl email me about it. They basically just told me to quit and they shut down the account. They still paid me the full amount though which was weird.
Deliguy,
I don't know where you're hiring, but it is required for every employer to have a photocopy of an ID as well as social securty card on file. Every employee must have a w4 on file, which asks for their SSN, and at year-end you report all salaries/annuities to IRS based on SSN. Along with that, there is state specific reporting requirements which must be provided with an SSN.
If you fake your SSN/lie to IRS you can end up in jail. Go tell the judge that the guys at the forum said you wouldn't. If you lie to the engines, adsense, affiliate programs you get banned and open a new account, with the goverment getting banned is painful...
Why not do this straight, take $15, go to the local authority, get a DBA (on the spot), and an EIN (on the spot)?
I don't know where you're hiring, but it is required for every employer to have a photocopy of an ID as well as social securty card on file. Every employee must have a w4 on file, which asks for their SSN, and at year-end you report all salaries/annuities to IRS based on SSN. Along with that, there is state specific reporting requirements which must be provided with an SSN.
If you fake your SSN/lie to IRS you can end up in jail. Go tell the judge that the guys at the forum said you wouldn't. If you lie to the engines, adsense, affiliate programs you get banned and open a new account, with the goverment getting banned is painful...
Why not do this straight, take $15, go to the local authority, get a DBA (on the spot), and an EIN (on the spot)?
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