Now try and step outside your own little head for a moment and ask yourself if you are perhaps a bit biased in your last statement there?I used to get wooden spoons beat over my arms until I feel into the corner, then get them broken over my head. I used to get belt beatings until the welts split and bled. They stopped when I told my dad I would kill him and meant it, and took the belt from my mom and whooped the shit out of her. And we still love each other because we continued to increase in awareness and compassion through the years and apologized for the mistakes. My pops was an alcoholic and drug addict control freak who lived in fear of not knowing every variable to everything. He got that way not because he's an asshole. He had an environment and overbearing father too.
I got my ass beat and they all make this seem very tame.
I know some of you must be thinking this is waaay out of hand, but this whipping was very tame. His language and saying "fucking" and being a dick is the abuse. That's psychological and emotional abuse. The whipping was just a standard whipping.
America is a very uncivilized country... The rest of the world, even 3rd-world countries look down on us & our parental standards more than you would ever believe.
She didn't turn over because she KNEW that if she didn't she could continue to enrage him. She did this because she KNEW she was taping it. She set up the recorder. She wanted it to be worse. She wanted the attention. She didn't want help. She wanted to be vindictive and hurt her dad.
For all you kids that have been beaten as a form of punishment or instruction I feel really bad for you. This kind of behavior fucks people up for life.
I never hit my kids and now ones graduating law school another junior in a good college and one studying hair design... all good kids ... never caused my trouble we couldn't talk through.
FUCKED UP. This guy should be kicked out of office.
Screw you parents who use violence against your kids and justify it by saying its discipline. Fuck You!
How does it fuck people up for life?
You put your hand in the fire you get burned. Does that fuck you up for life? How about cutting yourself?
Shit, let's be reasonable here. Ain't nothing wrong with a little force to keep kids in line, as long as it's done right.
There is a difference between getting a spanking and getting beat dozens of times with a leather strap you fucking twat.
It does fuck up people for life. I was beaten as a kid before too just like the girl in the video. Actually, I got it worse, I had blood coming out of my skin. And as soon as I was financially independent, I moved out of the house and never looked back. I never talk to him anymore.
Is that because hitting in general is wrong, or because the way he instituted corporal punishment was vulgar and depraved?
I'll admit readily that most people do not apply corporal punishment effectively- they revel in the emotions of it when that's the worst thing one can do. My parents did that with me and my brother.
Do you have kids? I ask because it seems most people on here remarking about "i got hit and I turned out ok" are falling back on this because they have no other experience to compare it to.
Essentially, hitting is for parents who don't want to take the time to properly learn how to discipline their kids. In a nutshell it's:
1) behavior has consequences (good behavior usually positive, bad usually negative)
2)Bad behavior is usually a testing of boundaries. When parents set clear boundaries and ALWAYS follow through for the consequences, it usually nips the bad behavior in the bud. ( I can even see the difference in my own 3 yr old's behavior with this. I'm pretty strict about this stuff but my husbands pretty relaxed and he winds up with the temper tantrums and toy missiles)
I've said this before in these threads but those of you who advocate hitting as a form of successful parenting, really don't know what you're talking about. A huge body of research supports that those raised with hitting as the most frequent form of discipline, are actually more problematic children. There are clear correlations between the amount of violence a child receives and the amount of disciplinary problems the child exhibits.
For those of you that think not hitting your children somehow makes you lax parents, you're also wrong. Like I said, if you follow through and always set boundaries and consequences for breaching the boundaries, your kids will be happy, well mannered and well adjusted children.
That is what you're going for, isn't it?
I'm just saying that the arguments against corporal punishment are rooted in emotions, not reason.
But in the end, the neurological effects are the same whether you spank them, put them down verbally or take away their phone privileges.