as well as slicehost, linode, and zensix to name a few that encourage/have unmanaged VPSes. (since I moved to the dedi, Zensix should have a couple free slots... )
Fuck CPanel
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as well as slicehost, linode, and zensix to name a few that encourage/have unmanaged VPSes. (since I moved to the dedi, Zensix should have a couple free slots... )
First of all, you should have asked your DC for their own cPanel/WHM update servers - most of them have it, and it would have solved almost all (if not all...) of your problems.
Second of all... you're installing cPanel yourself? Why? (unless it's on the VPS... in which you should have still asked cPanel for the VPS Opt. version of cPanel to install, its much much faster).
PS - Third... I really made it sound like I'm accusing you of something, didn't mean to make it sound that way. <3
Second of all... you're installing cPanel yourself? Why? (unless it's on the VPS... in which you should have still asked cPanel for the VPS Opt. version of cPanel to install, its much much faster).
PS - Third... I really made it sound like I'm accusing you of something, didn't mean to make it sound that way. <3
I would have, except I was waiting almost 2 days to get an answer back. And when I did get an answer back the only person available to assign a cpanel license was gone for the weekend. So I went ahead and ordered myself a license from a reseller.
I did (VPS). And the install script determines whether or not its a VPS or Physical machine when it installs (theres only one installer script). Also BuyCpanel.com does give free installation, but it didn't help them either when both the cpanel servers were down as they're pretty much doing the exact same thing I'm doing, wget some install script and run it on a clean/bare OS.
No they're perfectly legitimate questions. Basically I host people on a case-by-case basis (normally those who need some handholding or full management getting their sites working and updated), and least 3 people left of the clients I have, have several accounts on the previous cpanel box, with 20+ domains each. So I figured if I just paid for a single month's cpanel license, I could quickly migrate them over, and from there separate them into their own VPSes, perhaps to DirectAdmin, or to command line (teach em or manage it, either way), and if someone really must have cpanel, it'll probably only be one person left, on the already existing cpanel installation, and would just bill accordingly.
It was just getting to the point that paying the same price for a handful of VPSes with less resource than the equivalent dedicated wasn't making much sense, especially since I can make one small change and isolate clients into their own VPSes if I wanted to (less chance of screwing something up just cuz someone needs a loader, or setting changed).
And to clarify, I'm not a hosting company, this is just something I do for clients I do coding and management work for if they are unhappy with their current location, or just need some more handholding with their accounts (which is easier done when I can control the account). I'm just a guy who got a dedicated box and act like a personal admin/coder.
PS: I did get the cpanel VPS up and running, and currently transferring some folks. I just was under the impression that installation would be quicker and more straightforward given its the industry standard compared to Directadmin.
You should take a look at Webmin/Virtualmin if you can't turn them on to command line. It's modular - you can add/subtract modules independently and it doesn't take over your OS like Cpanel does. Virtualmin is your virtual server/domain configuration tool - it imports Cpanel backups flawlessly. Try it on a slice off your dedi. Automated install script - all you need is Perl installed on whatever flavor OS and an FQDN.
Meh, Webmin is basically just a little switch board. Never did care for it, especially since it doesn't support a lot of my choice of software (nginx and what not, in fact I don't think any control panel supports nginx, lighttpd, cherokee, etc).
Though I'll definitely look at Virtualmin, could be interesting if it can import cpanel backups without a hitch. I'll probably end up sticking with DirectAdmin if I use any control panel on a slice.
I got one just to try out DirectAdmin (free with the lowendbox offer) when I was evaluating panels. I wasn't really expecting much at the price. The server was down or shut down for maintenance on a weekly basis. Support would give you canned answers regardless of your specific issue. VPS became increasingly slow. Last time I did a download test it was only about a third as fast as my current VPS which is half the price.
Go here to WHT and do a search on Virpus if you are serious about keeping it. If not, keep it to play on and learn some shit by following Subigo's blog, then bail once you are serious about hosting yourself and are more critical about performance and uptime. Hopefully you didn't buy into a 6 month or longer plan just to get a free panel - if that's the case, I would bail during your grace period before things get shitty.
Sounds like they oversold the shit out of their VPS, it's really easy to cram a bunch of VPSes on a server with OpenVz, since it lets you assign more reasources than you have physically available. (ie: you could give 40 people 256MB slices on a server with only 4GB or 6GB, which would seem 'ok' until everyone starts trying to access their entire slice of memory, causing swapping, and then causing immense slow down and possible crashing, likewise with storage overselling).
Yeah fuck that. I'm not even done setting it up so I just put in for a refund. I'll move over to zensix.. That's where I wanted to go in the first place but they were sold out. Good thing they aren't now haha
oh, and +rep to both of you thanks
oh, and +rep to both of you thanks
I wonder if it has anything to do with me canceling my UM768 VPS with them (and maybe they finally got another server).
Didn't need another server... you went dedicated and so did two other people this month. Plus a couple of accounts that never paid for a second month and were way passed due. So we'll have room for at least a few days anyway. I'm moving on Thursday, so don't want to order a new server until after I'm all moved in to my new place.
As for the Virpus talk up there. They're in the same datacenter as us, that's all. They do coloing and dedicated hosting, but they just put everything in their cabinet at Wholesale Internet. Their VPS nodes are oversold like crazy, which is why they go down so often. With that said, I did use them in the past for backups (and as an emergency server for about a week when one of mine died)... but I wouldn't put anything important on their servers at all.
lol anyone who buys cloud hosting except as a contingency to high traffic is a dumbass 95% of the time. cloud prices are so expensive
twitter ran on 3 servers for a long ass time. granted it went down a lot but still
twitter ran on 3 servers for a long ass time. granted it went down a lot but still
That's mainly the only real benefit to cloud hosting right now, the immediate scalability to increased traffic. I guess in a way allows people's pricing to be fluid to their immediate traffic need. I personally never used it, but I've had some clients who were using cloud hosting, simply cuz they thought it would be faster or more 'powerful' than a dedicated or VPS, least thats what their pricing translated into thoughts.
If you have time to learn, setting up your own software stack via SSH is definitely worth the effort. You will get a lot more out of your servers, and when things break you will know exactly how to fix them.
In all likelihood, WickedFire will soon be moving to Linode.
In all likelihood, WickedFire will soon be moving to Linode.
WF is on a Softlayer Dedi right now isn't it? Kind of a downgrade to go a Linode VPS, I don't see dedi on their list, and the highest package they have is 2.8GB ram, 128GB hdd, and 1.5TB bandwidth. Also isn't Xen virtualization slow as fuck?
Just FYI: https://www.linode.com/signup/
They do much higher packages than that.
(up to 14gb of RAM listed)
They do much higher packages than that.
(up to 14gb of RAM listed)
... for 800/month, why would you only get 2TB of bandwidth? (seeing if they do al a carte), I mean I can see WF running fine on a 1GB server, what it would really need is bandwidth.