Fuck Partnerships I'm Done
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It seems like your partner cut you out OP. He figured out he could do both his 'front man' work and also the behind the scenes stuff i.e. the actual work. I don't know what you do exactly but if its anything online marketing related it isn't rocket science and any smart person can catch on quick of what the business involves.
I would suggest not partnering with anyone anymore. You can get some pretty sweet mouth sales people on the payroll, no need to give up any ownership.
Felix Dennis said it best: “Never, never, never, never hand over a single share of anything you have acquired or created if you can help it. Nothing. Not one share. To no one. No matter what the reason—unless you genuinely have to.”
I would suggest not partnering with anyone anymore. You can get some pretty sweet mouth sales people on the payroll, no need to give up any ownership.
Felix Dennis said it best: “Never, never, never, never hand over a single share of anything you have acquired or created if you can help it. Nothing. Not one share. To no one. No matter what the reason—unless you genuinely have to.”
Bro, email tampering? Do you know why I'm in Mexico?
Anyways not going to do anything further with his email, I took all the addy's out of his box that I wanted. Not likely he'll be able to get me extradited for breaking into his yahoo box.
Edit: hey you are my mexican IM buddy right... probably don't want to catch a drink now. I really need better social skills
Not hatin' bro, but it sounds like you guys were doing pretty well, and that cat is sending emails to clients from Yahoo mail?
I'm guessing that was his way to keep his communications from you?
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I'm just sayin, technically TMI. My 2 cents. I'll take a rain check on that drink.
Sorry to hear about your partner going off the reservation. I would definitely consider posting some kind of information on your brand's site saying he no longer represents you. Would hate to see that cunt get any more work off your brand name's reputation.
Yes. He is technically handicapped but a good talker, a closer. Had to do much coaching so he could field questions at meet and greets. You want to know what finally tipped me off? I got a complaint. This guy calls one of our business lines out of the blue, complaining that his site was hit with a penalty. He got another company to look at it and well, very very very shitty "work" was done to that site. Fucking terrible links, keywords stuffed to the ceiling. And me "I'm sorry sir but I don't think we've ever met" I never did that job of course. My cocksucker of a partner was using our business names to woo his funneled leads. My partner weaseled his way out of that one.. I don't know how he did it but the guy never called back and wouldn't take my calls. I wasn't sure though until today.
Golden rule of business. You're right though, and I think that's one rule everyone has to learn on their own via their own mistakes. I know I learned the hard way.
Never do business with friends or family, and never become friends with your clients. Keep your personal and business life separate.
You wouldn't take a free drink from a blonde chick that is probably the only other person doing IM in all of effing Mexico?
Guy's got steel morals. Good for you.
Morelos is quite a hike, I'm in Reynosa, Tamps. If anyone is brave enough to come here the drinks are on my tab. Salud!
partnerships and JVs are a tricky fucking subject.
i've been on the downside of plenty of them, you learn from each one you encounter. at some point you know what to look for going into your 5th-6th partnership if your lucky enough to get that far.
sucks that it happened to you, but take it as what we call in the ppc world. "buying data". congrats, you know what not to do in your next partnership.
it does get better, trust me on that
i've been on the downside of plenty of them, you learn from each one you encounter. at some point you know what to look for going into your 5th-6th partnership if your lucky enough to get that far.
sucks that it happened to you, but take it as what we call in the ppc world. "buying data". congrats, you know what not to do in your next partnership.
it does get better, trust me on that
I've been were you are at dozens of times. Some people just can't be trusted. It's not always like that though. But there are usually signs, even small, that you sub-consciously notice. However deep the emotional wound, you'll have to get past it and move on.
I always notice, that in most scenarios, there is a magical/chemistry that's needed, and when one part of it is gone, things go south pretty quickly for the other side. I wouldn't dwell too much into the betrayal aspect, otherwise you'll never get over it and might miss a great opportunity. It's a lot better to come to new 'opportunities' with a jaded mentality, rather then simply refused to partner up - that way you know what to look for the next time around.
I can honestly say, I wouldn't be were I'm at without all the healed stab wounds in my back. I've gotten used to it so much, I engaged my mercenary mind of just get the cash. The last backstabbing I was literally yawning in the board meetings, I even started trolling them playing the ignorant fool. They thought I cared about some intellectual property for some source code. They didn't want it out there - had me sign a contract to get the agreed upon "get the fuck out of here money". Even were talking shit back and forth in emails about the plan and backstabbing - not realized I'm root. LOL Once the wire cleared, I send them the URL to wordpress.org and the open source plugins I used. LOL. A couple months later one of the other major partners left the operation, and now I'm getting phone calls from the gang asking what's up and wanting to work with me again. They're still pissed though, said I duped them as they tried to backstab me, I still chuckle when thinking about that shit. I saw it coming from a mile away, and was already out the door. LOL. The first backstabbing though weren't that fun or funny. I still feel the betrayal sometimes. I was a young and bright eyed kid. Shit happens.
Projects fail, businesses fail, but as long as the fire from within you doesn't die cause of a bad experience, you'll be better from it. Past wounds can cripple your future prospects. Like the advice given, always stay paranoid, but move past the pain. I know all my former biz partners and the projects I left are either completely out of business or aren't doing as great as when I used to be there. It's kinda of my own evil pleasure, watching them fail once they realized how good they had it when they wanted to start fucking around. I'm still here, and they're not.
With each ending, comes a brand new beginning, perspective, and opportunities. Use the experience to tread more carefully who you go into business with, and to make sure you have control in place to never put yourself in that same situation.
Also, DON'T EVER DO BUSINESS WITH FAMILY OR FRIENDS!
I always notice, that in most scenarios, there is a magical/chemistry that's needed, and when one part of it is gone, things go south pretty quickly for the other side. I wouldn't dwell too much into the betrayal aspect, otherwise you'll never get over it and might miss a great opportunity. It's a lot better to come to new 'opportunities' with a jaded mentality, rather then simply refused to partner up - that way you know what to look for the next time around.
I can honestly say, I wouldn't be were I'm at without all the healed stab wounds in my back. I've gotten used to it so much, I engaged my mercenary mind of just get the cash. The last backstabbing I was literally yawning in the board meetings, I even started trolling them playing the ignorant fool. They thought I cared about some intellectual property for some source code. They didn't want it out there - had me sign a contract to get the agreed upon "get the fuck out of here money". Even were talking shit back and forth in emails about the plan and backstabbing - not realized I'm root. LOL Once the wire cleared, I send them the URL to wordpress.org and the open source plugins I used. LOL. A couple months later one of the other major partners left the operation, and now I'm getting phone calls from the gang asking what's up and wanting to work with me again. They're still pissed though, said I duped them as they tried to backstab me, I still chuckle when thinking about that shit. I saw it coming from a mile away, and was already out the door. LOL. The first backstabbing though weren't that fun or funny. I still feel the betrayal sometimes. I was a young and bright eyed kid. Shit happens.
Projects fail, businesses fail, but as long as the fire from within you doesn't die cause of a bad experience, you'll be better from it. Past wounds can cripple your future prospects. Like the advice given, always stay paranoid, but move past the pain. I know all my former biz partners and the projects I left are either completely out of business or aren't doing as great as when I used to be there. It's kinda of my own evil pleasure, watching them fail once they realized how good they had it when they wanted to start fucking around. I'm still here, and they're not.
With each ending, comes a brand new beginning, perspective, and opportunities. Use the experience to tread more carefully who you go into business with, and to make sure you have control in place to never put yourself in that same situation.
Also, DON'T EVER DO BUSINESS WITH FAMILY OR FRIENDS!
"In the Kamigata area, they have a sort of tiered lunchbox they use for a single day when flower viewing. Upon returning, they throw them away, trampling them underfoot. The ending is important in all things." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo (Hagakure, circa 1709)
i won't lie i initially laughed at this b/c you talked so much trash in the other post, riding the nuts of eliquid too hard
But then, the humbler side of me agrees with you. Sucks when it happens. I've had both sides of the partnership stuff happen.
a) I have a good idea rolling along.. took an investment... then google screwed over a 5 figure a month potential business....and I was stuck paying back investment after buying necessary equipment, etc.
b) Been on the side where I've been screwed out of thousands. The unfortunate part, where as I care about my reputation and will spend a year paying back an I make a promise to.... not everybody's like that....some say F it , find a reason to like you, and feel good not rewarding you for what was invested
The more money you make the more risks we take, the more of both sides we get. The Good thing, you're playing the game!
Best of Luck on future ventures.
But then, the humbler side of me agrees with you. Sucks when it happens. I've had both sides of the partnership stuff happen.
a) I have a good idea rolling along.. took an investment... then google screwed over a 5 figure a month potential business....and I was stuck paying back investment after buying necessary equipment, etc.
b) Been on the side where I've been screwed out of thousands. The unfortunate part, where as I care about my reputation and will spend a year paying back an I make a promise to.... not everybody's like that....some say F it , find a reason to like you, and feel good not rewarding you for what was invested
The more money you make the more risks we take, the more of both sides we get. The Good thing, you're playing the game!
Best of Luck on future ventures.
^^ fuck here it goes.
next thing you know dchuk will be in here starting something with Matt too
nb4 this is a programming thread
next thing you know dchuk will be in here starting something with Matt too
nb4 this is a programming thread