Fucking materialistic and ungrateful bastards....



It is a sad, sad thing indeed. But let's not forget that these are mostly just kids. We've all said stupid shit, and all had selfish moments. It doesn't help that a bunch of grown "adults" are cursing children on their twitter accounts because of something they said in a seemingly harmless tweet.
Kinda sad in all respects.
 
Just another example of how most people want instant gratification and/or everything handed to them on a silver platter. I have no doubt these kids have always received far more than they deserve which has only made them come to expect it. Whoever leads them to believe that this is the path to true happiness is to blame, although I doubt they're purposely withholding the truth about happiness, more likely they haven't a clue themselves.
 
I don't know that parents not giving their children enough attention has anything to do with their ungratefulness
I do.

What on earth do some parents do, or not do, that creates such devilish bastards? This honestly just reinforces my decision to not have kids.
Good decision, that.

Even great parents, who normally turn out world-class children, can have a "dud." Usually it's the middle child. But these kids who lack drive, honesty, and integrity still aren't that bad if they got lots of attention growing up and they will still have no desire whatsoever for material stuff like an iPad. The worst of them could still never say anything above at all.


Parents don’t deserve all of the blame as they are only part of the equation (an important one, no doubt). Teens have more autonomy than parents want to believe. Thus the rebellion / parental conflict stage.
You're starting way too late guy; A child is "Ruined" in this respect by age 5 or 6. Teens??? Wow. Of course there is no hope for them by that point.

I’m convinced that some kids turn out rotten regardless of adequate parenting due to other environmental factors.
You'd only be correct in the case of kids who had a 90% good job of parenting and so are otherwise sitting on the fence.

...Of course that explains the best 30% of this whole freaking continent. ;)

Other influences to consider:
1) Our gadget obsessed culture
2) Child’s peers (what friends and “other kids at school” got for X-mas)
3) Teachers
4) Marketing and mass media
Except for peers, these can't make the slightest scratch in a well-raised child. Not even a little fog on the window!

Peer pressure is a toughy though, and the very best parents will tend to think of it as their nemesis... But not with all children even, just the weakest of them... The aforementioned "duds." They can have everything they want and a perfect upbringing, but basically stop listening to their parents in their teen years for need of their friends' attention instead. It's a really sad situation that always ends in tears and horrible life decisions.


Regardless of one’s best efforts a kid may turn out to be an entitled asshole.
You couldn't be more wrong on this point. (Assuming they know how to be good parents, which sadly too few of them do.) The only reason you believe it to be true is because you've never been close to anyone who has had a perfect upbringing... Sadly it's very rare these days. 1 in 10 million kids rare.

Parents are brave and giving almost to the level of insanity.
True, even with the mediocre parents. Sadly it takes great training and advanced planning too... Which I believe are both more important than bravery and being giving.
 
Except for peers, these can't make the slightest scratch in a well-raised child. Not even a little fog on the window!

True that.

Quality time spent with kid is worth more than fucking toys or gadgets. You can't replace time or love with items. Those who spent their entire time working for the sake of a child are missing the point. You don't have to equip your kid with the best education, top gadgets, whatever. Help her to discover world, give some moral directions (not your private judgements), courage, learn her how to win and lose, accept her, discover talents etc and you have a happy human being.
 
lukep is right. Why is it so hard for people to accept that poor raising by parents is what ruins people? It's really as close to 100% as anything can be. If you are/were raised properly you will not only succeed in life but you will be a pillar of the community. The only thing not accounted for is mental insanity, but that too has a LOT to do with raising, if you were raised by loons or traumatized at a young age you will have the effects of that echo throughout your whole life...
 
Personally, it makes me feel privileged and grateful to live in a society where kids are secure enough that their biggest gripe is their lack of a Christmas Iphone.

Plus, it's reassuring that us marketers are going to have an even better time pitching to THIS generation. These guys have "instant gratification" to a tee :D

EDIT: It always makes me lol when I see people on here hating on mindless, materialistic consumerism. I know I do it too, but there's a delicious, cynical irony to it, dontcha think?
 
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lukep is right. Why is it so hard for people to accept that poor raising by parents is what ruins people?

Hard data supports that a child that is missing a father figure is generally fucked.

... fatherless young people are 80.3 per cent more likely to be involved in anti-social behaviour, 76.4 per cent more likely to be involved in crime, and 69.1 per cent more likely to take drugs.

Absent fathers 'cause' criminality in their kids

Quality of parenting has countless subjective components. Consider what Amish parents consider good parenting versus parents on the radical left.

Objectively we know a kid needs both parents in order to become well socialized.

Impoverished single mothers bringing kids into the world for selfish reasons are doing major harm. I’m not blaming them as they act out of ignorance.

Marriage is on the decline with no end in sight. It’s reasonable to believe they’ll be more single moms in the future than ever. If this is the case we are looking at a world crawling with thugs.
 
They wouldn't want it because they'd already have it.

The truth of this matter is that if their parents gave them enough attention while they were young, these kids would have been making enough money by now to buy the damn iphone themselves already... Even if they were still 14.

This is kind of true.

I was grounded all the time, so the only way I got out of the house was when I was working. So, I had two jobs during high school to spend as little time at home as possible.
 
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These guys and gals should be sent to poorer parts of Africa or Asia to experience what it's like to be hungry. They've been spoiled all their lives so they don't appreciate what they already have. They should just be thankful for all the great things they have in their lives and stop whining about what they didn't get for Christmas.
 
These guys and gals should be sent to poorer parts of Africa or Asia to experience what it's like to be hungry. They've been spoiled all their lives so they don't appreciate what they already have. They should just be thankful for all the great things they have in their lives and stop whining about what they didn't get for Christmas.


Yeah, I'm planning to take my kid to some of those areas right before she hits her teenage years.
 
These guys and gals should be sent to poorer parts of Africa or Asia to experience what it's like to be hungry. They've been spoiled all their lives so they don't appreciate what they already have. They should just be thankful for all the great things they have in their lives and stop whining about what they didn't get for Christmas.

Jesus stop fuckin around with this statements nobody really takes serious no more... Be happy you can provide your childs a better life than the people in 3rd world. I know it sounds harsh, but that's just the way everybody thinks if you give a real and honest statement on this topic. Too sad people are hungry over some parts in the world, but I'm lucky I don't experience the same to be honest. You can't help them all.

Taking your kids to 3rd world will bring as much as bringing them to Paris Hiltons villa and showing them how to spend 50k on champagne bottles a night. Don't overdo it... Teach your kids respect for money and for non-material things, no doubt!
 
To the OP: you've never acted like this when you were younger ? I think it's of course materialistic, but let's face it, we all want to make money not for the sake of donating it... This is how our society works, there are some goods / luxury goods which are 'cool' to have. I prefer my Mercedes over a Fiat too to be honest... and I know tons of other guys do same.
 
To the OP: you've never acted like this when you were younger ? I think it's of course materialistic, but let's face it, we all want to make money not for the sake of donating it... This is how our society works, there are some goods / luxury goods which are 'cool' to have. I prefer my Mercedes over a Fiat too to be honest... and I know tons of other guys do same.


Actually no I never acted like that, I was raised to understand the value of a $ and that nothing is for free.

It started in young age to 5-6 years with basic shit like garden work, chopping wood, cleaning cars do the same thing for my neighbors. I have "officially" had a job since I was 15 years old.

The only "things" I asked for in christmas gift from the age of 16 was things I could have use for when I moved out.

So no I dont understand these kids, sure I want flashy and cool shit but I know I have to hustle to get it and I sure as hell wouldn't be cursing about my parents not giving it to me.

-Micha