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boatBurner said:
If a child is raised in an environment that promotes murder, violence, discriminates against brown people, and then grows up and kills a brown person, who holds the most blame?
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hatred/discrimination??? that has nothing to do with the reason for which 99.999997% of people join the military. people join because they need a job... they like the GI Bill... they have no other way to get a college education... they feel compelled to "do their part".

i have never in my life met a person who joined the military because they hate brown people... i have no doubt it happens here & there, but its so small a fraction of the case that its statistically insignificant and a joke to use in this discussion.
 


drave said:
hatred/discrimination??? that has nothing to do with the reason for which 99.999997% of people join the military. people join because they need a job... they like the GI Bill... they have no other way to get a college education... they feel compelled to "do their part".

i have never in my life met a person who joined the military because they hate brown people...
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I didn't say that people are joining the military because of discrimination of brown people.
 
dreamscape said:
I'm so sick of the troop worship in this country... it's beyond ridiculous.
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Fucking A. You can't watch a football game nowadays without the announcers kissing the soldier's ass and reading from their sheet about how they are protecting the country. Do people actually believe this shit?

Kudos to this chick for saying what she believes. Although she should have her account on private so her snooping employers don't find her opinions.
 
boatBurner said:
I didn't say that people are joining the military because of discrimination of brown people.
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then i'm curious why you said "If a child is raised in an environment that promotes murder, violence, discriminates against brown people, and then grows up and kills a brown person, who holds the most blame?" in the middle of a discussion on why people join the military.
 
boatBurner said:
Assuming you cared enough to consciously think, "You know, I'm angry about something. The war. I'm angry about the war. Let me express my frustrations."

Should you

A.) Express your frustrations about the government's warring agenda
B.) Express your frustrations about people who sign up to goto war
C.) Express your frustrations about both A and B

Unless your answer is B, I think it's safe to say that you and I are in agreement.
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Expressed frustrations will fall on nothing but deaf ears.

I would recommend a healthier mindset which doesn't bottle up these frustrations. These people, as they are just products of their environments, just need help and love like anyone else, not listening to your frustrations.

To get to the somewhat root of what you were asking though, both the people in camp A and B are equally in the wrong.

If "the government" turns a new leaf and stops its "warring agenda", there would still be these people willing to sign up to kill if given the right incentives. The sheep would just pass hands to the new shepherd.
 
drave said:
then i'm curious why you said "If a child is raised in an environment that promotes murder, violence, discriminates against brown people, and then grows up and kills a brown person, who holds the most blame?" in the middle of a discussion on why people join the military.
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p0ck3taces said:
To get to the somewhat root of what you were asking though, both the people in camp A and B are equally in the wrong.
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So then you might agree that while the woman at the center of this discussion was right, she should also share the blame with the government.

Again, we agree.
 
Fiver said:
Fucking A. You can't watch a football game nowadays without the announcers kissing the soldier's ass and reading from their sheet about how they are protecting the country. Do people actually believe this shit?
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One of the biggest reasons I don't watch sports anymore...
Or if you go to a game they impose that shit on you with video clips of troops
on the big scoreboard and telling people to rise and give them a hand... like I
give a fuck.

I was at a bar one time and people got up and starting singing God Bless the
USA and I just sat there drinking my beer... the looks I got... lol, thought for
sure some fat redneck would try to start some shit with me.

Kudos to this chick for saying what she believes. Although she should have her account on private so her snooping employers don't find her opinions.
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As well as keep the boot sniffers from her account as well... I'm sure she's
getting harassed for not being eager to get on her knees and suck a troop's
cock.
 
dreamscape said:
I'm so sick of the troop worship in this country... it's beyond ridiculous.
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for what its worth, i'm sick of that worship shit too, i agree... and if the woman had left it at "being against the worship", she'd have been all good. but her post migrated from bitching about troop worship to bitching about troops in general, at which point i'd invite her to go fuck herself.
 
boatBurner said:
Your rebuttals have been both inspiring and scholarly. I have changed my position and am going to ponder our conversation for the remainder of the evening.
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heh, i think we're on the same side of an issue that doesn't matter much, a tabloid tennis match. its all good.
 
mikeshinobi said:
Intelligence in comments? This is truly unprecedented.
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huh? I can hardly hear you over all this freedom.


drave said:
keep confusing a politician's decisions (war) with a soldier's actions (job). soon you'll be at the airport spitting on vets.
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At an american airport, you're more likely to have people fingering your ass, and groping your 7 year old daughter. I bet former vets are given preference for those jobs, and they apply for them and perform them willingly.
 
p0ck3taces said:
It is that simple.
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No, cap'n, it aint. I wish it was. But, for every man who refuses to fly, 10 more are willing to take his place. The fuckin' war machine runs on CASH. There will always be young bucks willing to step up and grind---just like the dope dealing game, just like the spam marketers game and any other cash machine. But-I-said-all-that-really-just-to-say that war sucks, and I'm against it, just like Edwin Starr:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk]"War" by Edwin Starr (Original Video - 1969) - YouTube[/ame]
 
The practice of judging and condemning morally, is the favorite revenge of the intellectually shallow on those who are less so, it is also a kind of indemnity for their being badly endowed by nature, and finally, it is an opportunity for acquiring spirit and becoming subtle - malice spiritualises.
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Friedrich Nietzsche
Beyond Good and Evil
 
User9364 said:
At an american airport, you're more likely to have people fingering your ass, and groping your 7 year old daughter. I bet former vets are given preference for those jobs, and they apply for them and perform them willingly.
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you sound envious.
 
Fiver said:
Fucking A. You can't watch a football game nowadays without the announcers kissing the soldier's ass and reading from their sheet about how they are protecting the country. Do people actually believe this shit?
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When did propaganda not work ? Goebbels would laugh into your face.
 
Example of the word "heroes":

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1jbEvhFzQM"]Rice engineering team delivers robotic arm to Houston area teenager - YouTube[/ame]
 
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