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Huge Solar Breakthrough!
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The problem is that most reactors in the world are using designs from the 1960s and 1970s. Modern reactors (and there aren't many of them) are meltdown-proof and can actually burn the waste from the old reactors. However, governments are scared to death of reactors and don't want to grant permits for reactors that would be 1000% safer and more efficient.
Well, if you believe the hype in that film above, it's because they claim they're getting some sort of a boost from the Pirates' "Flash of green" multiple times per rotation.
Sounds like the most clever bullshit I've heard in a long time, but who knows...
I'd guess for the same reason.
You got something against creating Jobs, bro??
Even worse hype then the one I saw.
The way I understand it, 56 degrees is the optimum angle at a certain Lattitude. So these things should be more squat (Lower angle) the closer to the equator you get. I know conventional solar mounting kits take the angle into consideration every time... So I don't think they're even claiming here that the "magic of 56 degrees" is the driving catalyst.
As I said, here's hoping. It could very well be a simple investment squeeze but I hope not. We could use some cheap energy around here these days.
I disagree. Both solar and wind are only starting to be harnessed, and can both see huge efficiency gains as time goes by.
The way I see it, there are basically three classes of power right now:
A. Dirty and limited. (Oil, nat gas and Coal) -These I hate for many reasons, not just for green reasons. But hate or not, you gotta admit that they're going to dry up one day so it's just dumb to base our economy off of them.
B. Awesome but out of reach: Fusion, Thorium, smart fission, and LENR power may very well be the bee's knees in the year 2150, but they just can't catch up fast enough to meet our upcoming needs. Civiliazion will hard crash before these can be developed enough. (Certainly if you include our present political problems.)
C. Natural but weak: Wind, solar, geothermal, tidal, hydro. This stuff is proven to work but still growing in efficiency. It'd be a no-brainer if they were 10x more efficient than they are now, but as they exist, we need a lot of them to meet our power needs. If every house had its' own solar and wind collectors we could live like we do now with no grid at all... And no Class A power problems too.
B. Awesome but out of reach: Fusion, Thorium, smart fission, and LENR power may very well be the bee's knees in the year 2150, but they just can't catch up fast enough to meet our upcoming needs. Civiliazion will hard crash before these can be developed enough. (Certainly if you include our present political problems.)
C. Natural but weak: Wind, solar, geothermal, tidal, hydro. This stuff is proven to work but still growing in efficiency. It'd be a no-brainer if they were 10x more efficient than they are now, but as they exist, we need a lot of them to meet our power needs. If every house had its' own solar and wind collectors we could live like we do now with no grid at all... And no Class A power problems too.
Given the alternatives, doesn't C sound like the only sane choice?
As would I. It's sad how few stats and evidence they give on that site.
Wow, my haters are out in full force today again.
Since you're the last one I don't have blocked already, I'll go easy on you Matt; If for no other reason than you have sold me some good link packets in the past.
Other than just Shooting the Shit about these topics, I post stuff like this to vet theories, and use STS as a crucible to get to the truth. (I've actually stated this on many occasions.) If you read the OP again you'll see that I didn't indicate in any way that I believe that this product works or that it should be invested in. You take my post as advocation for it just as you take my enthusiasm for Paul as advocation for his presidency. In both you are mistaken.
At best I was hoping for a post like Midas Touch's post above. (#9) That gave me some critical points of feedback to think about... So this thread turned out perfectly for me, and all I can do is laugh at comments like yours.
It's still good to discuss these things even if this turns out to be bullshit.
There are already devices that have proven efficiency behind them, one I've read about is the GEET engine. The story behind the inventor is crazy as well. I'm not going to go all conspiracy as to why engines such as GEET doesn't blow up around the world immediately, but I'll simply say the world changes slowly and sometimes what we need the most takes the longest to get to us.
There are already devices that have proven efficiency behind them, one I've read about is the GEET engine. The story behind the inventor is crazy as well. I'm not going to go all conspiracy as to why engines such as GEET doesn't blow up around the world immediately, but I'll simply say the world changes slowly and sometimes what we need the most takes the longest to get to us.
Nice post, man +rep
Has anyone read Karl Denninger's book where he talks about the potential of liquid fluoride thorium reactors? It seems like a completely workable concept, yet I never hear any discussion about it anywhere.
I love the back peddling and face saving that LukeP is doing in this post. What a Quack.
I've brought up thorium reactors here in the past and I see them talked about on other websites quite regularly. The real issue is that most politicians don't want nuclear power even if it is quite cheap.
Uh........why would they not have the WHOLE outer shell as a magnifying cover vs. the 3.....1 inch wide ones?
Uh.......was that video showing Real Time Rotational speeds?
Uh.......why are the panels BLUE instead of black when everyone knows that BLACK absorbs the most amount of light?
Uh........where's the automatic Bird Poop Cleaner/Remover up sell attachment?
Uh......HEAT actually HELPS solar conversion as in SPEED of electron transference right?
Uh........It's a Purty Blue, it SPINS, and has Cool Looking Magnifying Thingys!!!
C'mon...I mean REALLY?!!
Read this article: V3 Solar Cells Rotate with the Sun, Produce 20 Times More Energy - Mobile Magazine
Just as "I" thought, existing solar panels ALREADY CAN FOLLOW the SUN throughout the day "AND" can have the 56* tilt on them. (You can't Patent an angle!! lulz)
So, their ONLY breakthrough from the data I've seen is the little magnifying bars they've got over the solar panels.
And, it's not even those that they're claiming to be responsible for the 20x better output. It's the 56* tilt angle!!!!
From the article: "The angle of the cone-shaped cells is what allows them to produce more energy more effectively.
V3Solar says they position them at a 56 percent angle to the sun."
(Way to BLAB out to the other solar companies your "secret" while showing a Prototype. ROFLMAO!!)
I'd be more interested in the Mini PV printed out every 15 seconds at home. Solar Panels | A Green Living Blog - Go Green, Green Home, Green Energy
The 'automated factory' is a way to solder/built out pre-existing solar panels. The cost is still huge and the biggest part (The photovoltaic cells themselves) still have to be purchased.
Correct, but out of those, solar and wind are the most unpredictable and lowest return since their availability is very low. There are many others that been proven but maybe more suitable for third world countries such as landfill gas, biogas from waste water and biomass. But for the best return in term of money investing would by hydro and geothermal.
Either way by subsidizeing and hyping, you will never find renewable energy source that can truly stand against cheap coal and natural gas.
This guy lives off the grid with 100% solar as far as I know. He has some really good info wrt to installation. For example, a small amount of shade on your panels can have a drastic effect on your power:
The RV Battery Charging Puzzle « HandyBob's Blog
An excerpt:
We successfully run our fifth wheel’s electrical system on batteries charged with solar power and do NOT own a generator. Contrary to what you have probably read in other places; it is possible to run a coffee maker and a toaster on battery power. The only time we have been plugged in for over six years has been to run air conditioning or when we have been stuck for over three days & covered with snow. No, we don’t act like we are plugged in and leave everything on all the time and yes, we do have to conserve if the sun doesn’t shine, but we still use the Mr. Coffee & watch a 19 inch TV for several hours every day. I have a background in electrical engineering and electrical equipment sales and have spent quite a lot of time and experimentation in figuring out how to make an RV system work.
The RV Battery Charging Puzzle « HandyBob's Blog
An excerpt:
We successfully run our fifth wheel’s electrical system on batteries charged with solar power and do NOT own a generator. Contrary to what you have probably read in other places; it is possible to run a coffee maker and a toaster on battery power. The only time we have been plugged in for over six years has been to run air conditioning or when we have been stuck for over three days & covered with snow. No, we don’t act like we are plugged in and leave everything on all the time and yes, we do have to conserve if the sun doesn’t shine, but we still use the Mr. Coffee & watch a 19 inch TV for several hours every day. I have a background in electrical engineering and electrical equipment sales and have spent quite a lot of time and experimentation in figuring out how to make an RV system work.
RVs and small cabins are prime candidates to run of solar only. For the most part, a RV or cabin can easily be retrofitted to be extremely energy efficient.
The average household in the US uses 958kwh of power per month. Most houses in the US get 4-6 sun-hours of power per day. This would require a total of 5-6KW of solar panels to take care of , which can cost upwards of $20k-$30k per household including the backup system to run when peaks are down. It's not impossible but pretty expensive considering at 12c/KWH , the repay period would be 20 to 30 years, even though the average panel will only last 10 to 15 (Yes, they say they last 20-30 years but it never happens, heck Germany is trying to sue a company that stated the panels would last 30 years when they lasted only 5).
I like how 80% of this idiots posts are always something about LukeP.
Spends his boring life on Wickedfire chasing down other members just to post something negative about them so he could get his rocks off. Real classy.
You got this shit on Google alerts or something? Hong Kong must not be all that exciting for you.
Check out the guy's site. He knows quite a bit about solar panels and can usually get more energy from fewer panels than is widely accepted in the solar panel industry. There's probably some application to houses in there. Solar is not optimal for every location, but there are a lot of locations that are promising.
Until, of course, they become too scarce... Which is approaching within our lifetimes.
...And don't forget it takes time to build up the replacement tech, so no one can afford to wait until the day gas hits $20 a gallon to start mass producing a solar equivalent.
If I were a homeowner I'd get off the grid totally, if for no other reason than the principle of it.
Thios I find interesting. Is that the install charge including contractor mark-up? Are there sources where you can access the pieces of a system at wholesale and then cut the price significantly - or is this the cost of materials?
As a contractor I know there are many things we where the mark-up is incredible and yet the public just thinks "it is what it is". Are there sources? A while back I tried to do some research, but I got sidetracked and forgot about it.
Any insight?
Yeah solar markups are stupid. Contractors who work with solar make it all sound like a wildly complicated and mystical undertaking that requires at least a nine million percent markup.
If you're willing to do the work - a lot of work - you can get it down to about a buck a watt by making the panels yourself. schockergd's numbers are accurate from my research.
There are things you can do to cut down your electrical needs too. Like led bulbs, gas appliances, wood/oil/gas heat, etc.