Hydra STIFFING me

Hey Mason, I've always been fair to you and appreciate some kind of representation from hydra around here (this goes for all networks) ... so answer this question please.

Is $3500 really worth the bad rap???

I've got a major chip on my shoulder for affiliate.com. Same exact situation just a year more aged and about twice this amount. Honestly, I'd rather not get paid so I can shit on their name every time it gets brought up. To me, It's more gratifying this way.

WTF are you networks thinking making enemies over a few beans and peanuts? And don't hide behind your gatdam T&C!
 
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I have been running a Hydra campaign for about 2 years now, payment always comes each month for me. However, I do see a growing trend of delayed payments and non payments at almost every network these days.

Going direct will not solve this issue of nonpayment. However, I'd much rather get an extra 20%-50% and have a direct line to the advertiser and deal with the Net30-Net45 and possible non payment risk for that extra margin.

The point is, if the advertiser doesn't pay the network.. the new trend is the networks delaying, not paying, or only paying you for your traffic costs. If the advertiser doesn't pay the network, its the same as not paying you if you were direct in a lot of cases. I'd much rather have been paid my 20% margin for weeks, then get a non payment.. then to have had no extra margin at all and still get stiffed by the network.

Your only other drawback is Net30 or Net45 on some offers. But like anything, everything is negotiated in a contract. Don't position yourself as just an affiliate and do just like the networks are doing.. get tighter credit terms, prepayments, and do your research on the advertiser.

Point is, you spend a lot of time getting LP's, tracking, research, and ads up and running and optimized. Spend that same amount of energy and time, if not more, getting direct with advertisers and drawing up contracts that are solid.

I'm not saying to stop using affiliate networks as there are a lot of good solid ones that will help you out and eat some costs. However, if you want to grow and learn and reach to higher potential you must not stay reliant on someone else to do everything for you while they take their cut from it.
 
I also want to add, going direct is just a stepping stone if your even thinking about reaching higher potential.

If your happy at just being an affiliate that gets offers from a network, then more power to you. If you are looking to go direct or above a network, then going direct should just be a stepping stone for you on your way to owning your own offer some day.
 
If this is happening for 4k... you'd have to wonder about how low the cashflow is...

id expect to be paid the small 4k on time and the network work on collecting what is owed to them
 
erect said:
Hey Mason, I've always been fair to you and appreciate some kind of representation from hydra around here (this goes for all networks) ... so answer this question please.

Is $3500 really worth the bad rap???

I've got a major chip on my shoulder for affiliate.com. Same exact situation just a year more aged and about twice this amount. Honestly, I'd rather not get paid so I can shit on their name every time it gets brought up. To me, It's more gratifying this way.

WTF are you networks thinking making enemies over a few beans and peanuts? And don't hide behind your gatdam T&C!
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Agreed.
 
Fucking pay the man. I'm glad im not promoting affiliate programs anymore, I had to chase 9k for 6 months once.
 
InfinityOscar said:
whatever happened to handshakes deal? no T&C, no IO and if things dont work out we go on our separate ways. Cant trust anybody nowadays...
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every time you shake someone's hand and it feels like your best friend
could it be that it's only superficiality?
without regard to well-being, without an inkling of compromise
handshakes are nothing but a subtle "fuck you"
and contracts determine the best friendships

this is the way of the modern world, everyone's vying for patronage
this is the way of the modern world, and something's gotta give

- Bad Religion
 
Ah Yes! Advertisers and their timely payments....

Even the guys with great credit history have decided they don't want to pay on time anymore due to advertisers not having the cash flow they need to push all payments at once. This is now combated by the "I don't care who you've worked with or who you know, pay me up front" approach. I don't work with nearly any advertisers on credit terms anymore in the short term. ESPECIALLY in rebill. Just too risky. Might piss off advertisers but you have a lot of happy affiliates.
 
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