I can't believe no one has started a thread about the NSA shit from this week...

Just wondering if they also have the ability to listen to converstions via our cell phone's mic Anytime they want. And if not yet, how far away is that too. I can see this spining way out of control. We let them send us red light tickets cause we we're caught on camera... "We know you did it, your guiity: pay the fine."

In 10 or 20 years time they might have us all on cams all the time with voice ID, and can hear everything we say all the time. Shit we might each have our own miniture personal surveilance drone that follows us everywhere to make sure we're not terrorists in the name of national security. Oh and btw "we saw you drink that 20 oz soda, we know your guilty: pay the fine."
 


Just wondering if they also have the ability to listen to converstions via our cell phone's mic Anytime they want. And if not yet, how far away is that too. I can see this spining way out of control. We let them send us red light tickets cause we we're caught on camera... "We know you did it, your guiity: pay the fine."

In 10 or 20 years time they might have us all on cams all the time with voice ID, and can hear everything we say all the time. Shit we might each have our own miniture personal surveilance drone that follows us everywhere to make sure we're not terrorists in the name of national security. Oh and btw "we saw you drink that 20 oz soda, we know your guilty: pay the fine."

I think what will come out is that they tried that, and ran into issues with storage capacities, plus by the time they did pick up something actionable, it would be about 5 yrs too late. They are getting what they were looking for just from the call logs.
 
Paparazzi be waiting around in hotel hallways for Glenn Greenwald :

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Just wondering if they also have the ability to listen to converstions via our cell phone's mic Anytime they want. And if not yet, how far away is that too. I can see this spining way out of control. We let them send us red light tickets cause we we're caught on camera... "We know you did it, your guiity: pay the fine."

In 10 or 20 years time they might have us all on cams all the time with voice ID, and can hear everything we say all the time. Shit we might each have our own miniture personal surveilance drone that follows us everywhere to make sure we're not terrorists in the name of national security. Oh and btw "we saw you drink that 20 oz soda, we know your guilty: pay the fine."

I don't know if you have noticed, but Obama and others are careful to only reference "these 2 programs". They are not talking about what some of there other programs are capable of. More than likely if they are backdooring your mic and camera it would be done on a more targeted way.
 
In 10 or 20 years time they might have us all on cams all the time with voice ID, and can hear everything we say all the time. Shit we might each have our own miniture personal surveilance drone that follows us everywhere to make sure we're not terrorists in the name of national security. Oh and btw "we saw you drink that 20 oz soda, we know your guilty: pay the fine."

You mean like now ? They just declassified the Argus Drone. It sits 3 miles in the sky and can see objects as small as 5 inches. It WAS BUILT to follow you 24/7.

And this is pretty old news for them. Enough to declassify it.
GL;HF
 
I wouldn't mind seeing some really good reports/stories/editorial/forum posts from experts on how the NSA doesn't drown in all that fucking data.

My dad spent some time in Canadian Air Force counter-intel, he told a few (very few - he's not a big talker) stories about intel fuck-ups that he knew of.

You can collect all the data you want, that's easy and fuck whatever laws of the country you are in at the moment.

But separately noise from data from actionable information is a different sort of problem altogether, despite what the geeks in the backroom say. ("We'll just write an algo to filter that")

Or so I've been told. Which wasn't very much in the first place.

They use a program like Hadoop to shift through the data.
 

The CIA’s deputy director plans to resign and will be replaced by White House lawyer and agency outsider Avril D. Haines, Director John O. Brennan said Wednesday.

Haines, who will succeed career officer Michael Morell on Aug. 9, has served for three years as President Obama’s deputy counsel in charge of national security issues and as legal adviser to the National Security Council. Although she has never worked inside the intelligence agency, “she knows more about covert action than anyone in the U.S. government outside of the CIA,” Brennan said in an interview.

And that there is where this leak originated. The administration has her handle the snowden leak to bring the nation's biggest open secret to light. The public outcry will die down over the next few weeks. And then the real spying will continue under the radar, and be escalated to all new hights.


EDIT:
The highly regarded Morell, a 33-year CIA veteran who twice served as acting director, said in an interview that he decided last month to resign because “I want to and I need to devote more attention to my family.” Morell has three college-aged children.

Anyone interested in the concept of "Misinformation" and propaganda should study this statement closely.
 
The highly regarded Morell, a 33-year CIA veteran who twice served as acting director, said in an interview that he decided last month to resign because “I want to and I need to devote more attention to my family.” Morell has three college-aged children.

Anyone interested in the concept of "Misinformation" and propaganda should study this statement closely.

If they are in college, what the fuck is he going to be devoting his time to?