International Traffic and Offers

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I'm posting this here because I have this conversation so many times a day. Everyone believes that there is not much traffic in the EU for some reason but that couldn't be further from the truth. As you know a4d and other networks have recently picked up a bunch of int'l offers that are translated into french, german, spanish, italian, etc.

But I constantly have to prove to people that there really is traffic in Europe. And guess what there is even more traffic than in the US. US & CA accounts for 18% of the worlds traffic where EU accounts 28%. Take a look at these Comscore results rankings if you don't believe me.

Global Internet Audience Surpasses 1 Billion Visitors, According to comScore - comScore, Inc

The proof is in the numbers. There is traffic overseas now go get it.

Just my 3 cents.
 
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But seriously, I can only imagine how much money is waiting for us over there...
 
Haha this is something I'm seriously trying to get into at the moment. Anyone had any experience with professional translation services?
 
Well what's the best bet I've found to start is OneHourTranslation.com. If you do volume some networks have resources that can proof the copy and correct for you. Talk with your affiliate network.
 
Been looking into this for awhile now wanting to run in a few euro markets especially now since the dollar is becoming shit. Will definitely look into this more and may give A4D a try.
 
We will translate any language you need if you run traffic with us. The actual advertiser will be the one doing this, so the translation will be right, instead of being off like if you use Google translate. i.e. some works in English mean something different in another language.
 
There is indeed a lot of potential in international traffic, but that concerns mostly lead gen offers.

The problem is not so much the presence of volume, but rather - at least if we are talking about rebills - credit card coverage. There are a LOT of European countries (with the exception of the UK perhaps) where maybe on average, one in 10 people has a credit card. It is just a completely different thing from the US and simply taking your acai LP and throwing it into Babelfish won't cut it. Most advertisers have yet to understand that.
 
Just zip submits alone can make you famous, no need to panic over the CC factor I'd think.

There were a LOT of booths at Ad Tech touting international traffic generation... lots of good stuff there.
 
A lot of international markets don't have credit cards as much because they use debit and prepaid cards at a much higher rate throwing the numbers off. There might not be as many people purchasing online but they also don't have the large numbers promoting the same thing to them which means competition will be a lot less on some offers.
 
bprimeelite said:
A lot of international markets don't have credit cards as much because they use debit and prepaid cards at a much higher rate throwing the numbers off. There might not be as many people purchasing online but they also don't have the large numbers promoting the same thing to them which means competition will be a lot less on some offers.
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I can verify the rebill market in the EU, is as large as the US. right now i guess its about 5 million a month in advertising fees, just on acai/colon offers alone

You're a bit off the mark, the key is for the advertiser to accept the common payment form for the country, not everyone has CC's but many countries use paypal or other pay methods, if the advertiser has those pay methods integrated to their site then the product has better yields
 
mkrongel said:
I can verify the rebill market in the EU, is as large as the US. right now i guess its about 5 million a month in advertising fees, just on acai/colon offers alone

You're a bit off the mark, the key is for the advertiser to accept the common payment form for the country, not everyone has CC's but many countries use paypal or other pay methods, if the advertiser has those pay methods integrated to their site then the product has better yields
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What Mike said. And you'll find they've been selling adult offers in the whole EU on the rebill model. So that's where a lot of people are starting to migrate over from. They already have all thel processing/billing models in place to make it work.

And as Mike mentioned the advertisers we're working with have been translating stuff for adult for years so they have the tools to translate the continuity programs as well :D
 
Medici said:
got some stats to prove your theory on credit cards in europe?
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I am from Europe myself, and among my entire social circle, I do not know a single person who has a credit card. This is mostly talking about, perhaps, people 18-30 though. Beyond that, the rate is probably higher, but still far from ccs being "common".

And my point was that advertisers when doing "international" lps simply throw their existing LPs / payment method (so CCs) into machine translation and do not care enough to actually research their market regarding payment methods etc. I don't know if there are any rebill offers out there that are actually properly and specifically designed for European countries, but I'd love to be introduced to them.
 
anyone have any insight on Germany? Because I dunno if it's the lack of kinky sex acts on the landing page but I can't make that shit work even w/ metrics before the order page that are equal up to 15-20% better than other european countries.
 
Germany is probably among the worst in regards to credit card coverage. Don't expect your average gullible housewife to have one.
 
We have 100% international offers on our network, and each offer has translated pages for their respective country. EU, MENA, LATAM, AU and now some global offers.

Amazing at what traffic can be had from the most unique countries.

As far as CC's, much more cautious over there in regards to using them, but they love the more simple offers .

We can help out anyone wanting to open up some traffic abroad.
 
amorph said:
There is indeed a lot of potential in international traffic, but that concerns mostly lead gen offers.

The problem is not so much the presence of volume, but rather - at least if we are talking about rebills - credit card coverage. There are a LOT of European countries (with the exception of the UK perhaps) where maybe on average, one in 10 people has a credit card. It is just a completely different thing from the US and simply taking your acai LP and throwing it into Babelfish won't cut it. Most advertisers have yet to understand that.
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^this, it's either that or these advertisers either have shitty merchant accounts that can't process shit or not setup to take payments which are most popular for that country.

mkrongel said:
I can verify the rebill market in the EU, is as large as the US. right now i guess its about 5 million a month in advertising fees, just on acai/colon offers alone

You're a bit off the mark, the key is for the advertiser to accept the common payment form for the country, not everyone has CC's but many countries use paypal or other pay methods, if the advertiser has those pay methods integrated to their site then the product has better yields
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Great, but my 60 cent EPC on France/Germany acai/colon with you guys says that something is wrong so the advertisers are probably not doing what they should be (e.g. accepting the common form of payment). And it's not just your network, I've tried a handful of diet offers for those 2 countries on multiple networks and have yet to find anything that converts well and is consistent. Yet I keep hearing the same shit "nothing is wrong".

I am currently running a colon that looks promising but the acai is still shit from the same network. When you've got a #2 on the LP converting at 1/4 the #1 you know something is fucked.

And when you direct link a clickbank product and get better conversions than a re-bill you know something is fucked.

Anyway my take on it is there's definitely plenty of volume and cheaper traffic but if you think you''ll just jump in there with your flog and start making $6-10 epcs good luck with that.
 
amorph said:
Germany is probably among the worst in regards to credit card coverage. Don't expect your average gullible housewife to have one.
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i figured it had to be something like that. This is where other payment options are needed, someone get a mobile carrier to allow billing for physical goods.

Thanks for the feedback
 
m0rtal said:
^this, it's either that or these advertisers either have shitty merchant accounts that can't process shit or not setup to take payments which are most popular for that country.



Great, but my 60 cent EPC on France/Germany acai/colon with you guys says that something is wrong so the advertisers are probably not doing what they should be. And it's not just your network, I've tried a handful of diet offers for those 2 countries on multiple networks and have yet to find anything that converts well and is consistent. Yet I keep hearing the same shit "nothing is wrong".

I am currently running a colon that looks promising but the acai is still shit from the same network. When you've got a #2 on the LP converting at 1/4 the #1 you know something is fucked.

And when you direct link a clickbank product and get better conversions than a re-bill you know something is fucked.

Anyway my take on it is there's definitely plenty of volume and cheaper traffic but if you think you''ll just jump in there with your flog and start making $6-10 epcs good luck with that.
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+rep

Glad it's not just me, if there's one thing I fucking hate it's spinning wheels while thinking 'it's just me'
 
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