Iowa Caucuses

LOL did you see the interview with the guy from the Army talking about Ron Paul conveniently gets cut off on CNN?? WTF is this shit

Yea I saw that too.

He was told by the reporter that some people think it's dangerous for the troops to come home and a few seconds into his response he was cut off.

"I think nitpicking wars around the world is much more dangerous, Israel is more than capable of..."
 


I saw that, was hilarious.. he was making a great point about Israel being able to protect itself and that we don't need to do it.. and booom.. there goes the feed.

Hope the soldier doesn't have something bad happen to him. Our Government doesn't like their soldiers breaking the chain of command and going off-script.

Oh, and this explains Iowa's importance and why they "want" to be important. It's all about corn subsidies.

[ame="http://askville.amazon.com/Iowa-Hampshire-important-Presidental-election/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=5546667"]Why is Iowa and New Hampshire so important in the Presidental election?[/ame]
The Iowa caucuses were usually the first "events" in the presidential primaries, with New Hampshire close behind, so a win in these two states could always give a dark horse candidate sudden national visibility. Cynics like me believe that's why we spend so much on ethanol! Iowa is corn country, so whether it makes economic, energy or environmental sense, we spend tons of money on ethanol subsidies (also known around Washington as the Archer-Daniels-Midland subsidies, since that's the company who is the "family farmer" politicians are always so fond of, to the tune of about 80% of the ethanol bucks). And both Iowa and New Hampshire are relatively small states, with relatively small populations, so it's possible for even an underfunded and little-known candidate to get out and talk to enough voters, shake enough hands and attend enough town hall meetings to get himself known without a massive campaign war chest.

It is actually written into the campaign rules of each major party that candidates are not permitted to campaign in other states until after the Iowa caucus and then the New Hampshire primary. (You can see the 2008 Democratic election rules at http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/08/highlights_of_t.php, and the Republican election rules are very similar). This year Iowa is scheduled for January 14, with Nevade caucuses on January 19 and the New Hampshire primary on January 22. Michigan has announced a January 15 primary, but there's a lot of shouting going on about that, and most political savants feel that Michigan will not hold their primaries until January 29 if they hold primaries at all. Since candidates who might campaign there would all face sanctions, the point of such an early primary date is unclear; Michiganders who were pushing the schedule say it's because they want Michigan's issues to receive the kind of national attention Iowa/ethanol gets. However, the Republican National Committee has already announced that it will fine 5 states, including Michigan, for scheduling early primaries--the fine is losing half the state's delegates to the party nominating convention, which is a pretty steep price to pay for getting "your" issues into the wider public eye.


This year things are beginning to change. Many states have moved their primaries up by a week to a month in the calendar. If you compare the 2008 primary calendar at http://uspolitics.about.com/od/2008elections/a/prez_primary.htm to the 2004 primary calendar at: http://www.kerrysupport.com/electoral-election.html, you'll see that it's possible a candidate will be within shouting distance of having enough delegates to take the convention by 5 February 2008--the new "Super Tuesday," when 20 states will be holding their primaries including some electoral vote biggies like California, Illinois, New Jersey and New York. Florida votes January 29. Massachusetts, Texas and Ohio will all hold their primaries on 4 March, and if (as is very possible) one candidate has taken enough electoral votes by this date, it will be a long pre-convention "non-official candidate" campaign period before the party conventions in August (Dems) and September (Reps).

The Manchester, NH Union Leader, a newspaper never shy about reminding the rest of the country of New Hampshire's heavy burden with respect to the presidential primaries, proposed in 2006 a "pledge" which would be required of all presidential hopefuls filing for the New Hampshire primary. It is:
“I recognize the New Hampshire Presidential primary’s historic importance in putting issues, ideas and the candidates themselves directly before the voters and will do all in my power to protect the primary in accordance with the New Hampshire Secretary of State’s charge under New Hampshire law.”
There you go.....a clear explanation. New Hampshire has a historic responsibility to define the issues, crystallize the ideas and weigh up the candidates for all of us. Nice of them, really....
 
I was going to ask why is the Iowa caucus important because I don't follow politics but then I typed the first two words and it popped up on google. Thanks google, I knew I could always count on you!
 
And why does anyone care what Iowa thinks?

Because they're retarded. Remember who won four years ago? Neither does anyone else. (It was Mike Huckabee and we all know how well he did).

I think it's different with Paul. One of his biggest issues (IMO) is that people don't take him seriously; they don't think he can win and consider their vote "lost" if they vote for him. If he wins Iowa it shows he has a shot, albeit a slim one, it's still much better than he's done in previous campaigns. Iowa doesn't guarantee anything, but it sure as hell would be a good start.
 
Hope the soldier doesn't have something bad happen to him. Our Government doesn't like their soldiers breaking the chain of command and going off-script.

No kidding, another thread with troops killing animals in uniform and no repercussions, but say the wrong thing on camera in uniform and watch out. :crap:
 
Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, social conservatives are showing Santorum love, moderate conservatives are showing Romney love, the rest are divvying up Perry and Bachmann. There's so many shitty candidates in this primary, but not for the reasons most of the braindead, brainwashed amoebas here would believe. Plus there's already reports of Obama's machine tampering with poll numbers, looks like his gang of criminal supporters are already in full swing.
 
Ya at this point Paul will likely lose with 48% of the vote in and he's like 1200 votes less than Santorum. WTF is up with this Santorum shit anyway...
 
Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, social conservatives are showing Santorum love, moderate conservatives are showing Romney love, the rest are divvying up Perry and Bachmann. There's so many shitty candidates in this primary, but not for the reasons most of the braindead, brainwashed amoebas here would believe. Plus there's already reports of Obama's machine tampering with poll numbers, looks like his gang of criminal supporters are already in full swing.

I can't wait to hear what Sean Hannity tells you to say next.
 
Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, social conservatives are showing Santorum love, moderate conservatives are showing Romney love, the rest are divvying up Perry and Bachmann. There's so many shitty candidates in this primary, but not for the reasons most of the braindead, brainwashed amoebas here would believe. Plus there's already reports of Obama's machine tampering with poll numbers, looks like his gang of criminal supporters are already in full swing.

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Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, social conservatives are showing Santorum love, moderate conservatives are showing Romney love, the rest are divvying up Perry and Bachmann. There's so many shitty candidates in this primary, but not for the reasons most of the braindead, brainwashed amoebas here would believe. Plus there's already reports of Obama's machine tampering with poll numbers, looks like his gang of criminal supporters are already in full swing.

Quit WF, Go work for Fox... you've got their script memorized!
 
I simply cannot believe how many votes in Iowa are going towards Dick Scrotorum.

In every last debate he looked like a clueless child not capable of leading a cubscout troop out of a paper bag.

If Scrotorum wins, I'm SO calling bullshit.

@ 'why is Iowa so important' - Because it's first. The media has to talk about something, so they start at the beginning and it builds from there. The more america hears that someone one, the more americans will vote for that someone. Sad, but true.
 

So you would rather people roll over and keep taking it up the ass from the establishment instead of trying to do something? Maybe you'd like to explain your stance here because it seems to me you want to keep taking it up the tailpipe and be able to say "I told you so" instead of wanting something decent to happen. I'd say we're pretty fucked regardless if RP was to get elected and attempt to correct the train running off the tracks, but I would like to see him defeat all these private interest scumbag clones just for the sake of something to look forward to vs. wishing the whole world to be flushed down a giant shitter.
 
here's the dropped soldier video:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5I3UcB5-A]CNN Feed 'Drops' As A US Soldier Tells Of Why He Supports Ron Paul's Foreign Policy - YouTube[/ame]
 
So you would rather people roll over and keep taking it up the ass from the establishment instead of trying to do something? Maybe you'd like to explain your stance here because it seems to me you want to keep taking it up the tailpipe and be able to say "I told you so" instead of wanting something decent to happen. I'd say we're pretty fucked regardless if RP was to get elected and attempt to correct the train running off the tracks, but I would like to see him defeat all these private interest scumbag clones just for the sake of something to look forward to vs. wishing the whole world to be flushed down a giant shitter.

This.

I know it's really satisfying for your ego and shit, but what's more important than rubbing your 9 inch ego cock is actually supporting for what is right.