Is Marriage Becoming Obsolete?

[dantex]

You'd understand that a woman who raise kids for 20 years, takes care of the household. Which is really fucking hard. While her husband is learning, working, investing, getting promoted. That its a partnership, and all is equal. You dont think she deserves 50% after he dumps her in her 40s for a younger hottie. With no work experience, education in some cases, to start all over.
A contract is only fair. Dont be a bitch and pay up. Sacrifices are made on both sides.

Yeah? Let's flip the roles around and make your statement reflect what happens more:

You'd understand that a man who works successfully, takes care of his family's safety, and child's discipline - which is really fucking hard. While his wife is choosing to take care of the household, cooking, and providing intimacy. That is a partnership and all is equal. You don't think he deserves 50% and full child custody after she "gets bored" with him not being "exciting" enough and dumps him for a fling with a higher status alpha? With absolutely zero warning or anything wrong on the husband's part that he did.
A contract is only fair. Dont be a bitch and pay up. Sacrifices are made on both sides.

I don't think that sweden's high divorce rate has anything to do with cheating but more with the pussyfication of men in scandinavia.

Yes. Socialism + modern Feminism + pussified men = growing divorce and the collapse of a society

 

[koteshg]

Idont like to marry.

 

[teguh123]

atleast i can eat my wifes p***y everynight and not worry about some kind of std on my mouth.

thats one of the benefit of marriage.

also the most rewarding thing EVER in the history of LIFE is having a child and seeing that child grow from a baby to a toddler to a child, etc... people who grow businessess and corporations get satisfaction in that but nothing touches your heart more then growing a human being and seeing your blood in that child.

it is the purpose of life and marrieage is another important piece in the realm of a family.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Money may be the husk of many things, but not the kernel. It brings you food, but not appetite; medicine, but not health; acquaintances, but not friends; servants, but not faithfulness; days of joy, but not peace or happiness. -Henrik Ibsen[/FONT][/FONT]

That I must agree.

Still I hate the fact that government act as the pimp for my wife by deciding the rule.

I want to have kids outside marriage, with girls that only I fuck (at least during the kids creation process). I do not like leaving beautiful girls. It's cruel I think to leave a girl.

However, I do not want a bullshit she get half either. I think salary should be higher than severance pay.

Also my wife is pretty nice to me. I manage to get her agree to share (though I still can't find who should she share me with).

She's such a prude. I can't lick her pussy. Christian upbringing.

Before marriage I have huge bargaining position. Though I do not like leaving girls, I could threaten to leave her unless she put up. After marriage, she already got all. Why should she do more again? Just fucking once a week where I do all the work. Sigh.....

The massage therapists do better and younger.

 

[teguh123]

You'd understand that a woman who raise kids for 20 years, takes care of the household. Which is really fucking hard. While her husband is learning, working, investing, getting promoted. That its a partnership, and all is equal. You dont think she deserves 50% after he dumps her in her 40s for a younger hottie. With no work experience, education in some cases, to start all over.
A contract is only fair. Dont be a bitch and pay up. Sacrifices are made on both sides.

Dude you got the point. However, that's not the main issue.

Who talks about leaving her? Man just want to have another one. Most girls do not mind. However, the other males mind. You see? That's the real reason behind those 50% rule. To prevent rich males from getting a lot.

People that says that women should get 50% miss an important material point. How much that 50% is? Men are not equally wealthy. If you insist women will get 50%, the richer males are less likely to marry her. Then she ended up choosing someone poorer that leave nothing but debt. Happen to my maids.

Which one is better for her? Women, to my surprise, are actually very smart in deciding. It's her live. Not like they're so dumb and we decide what's best for her. Many women prefer the rich. The reason why polygamy is illegal is not because no women could possibly want to share. The reason is because TOO many would if it were legal.

As whether it's fair or not, why not let the market decide? Fair means salary should be far higher than severance pay. Fair means beauty and performance should decide compensation rather than the man's wealth.

Exclusivity agreement? Well, only if both side think it's really important. After all, loyalty is cheapest for those who have no one else to fuck (i.e. doesn't sale). Many women prefer studs. That's definitely outside marriage unless marriage can be privatized.

You don't agree. Fine. Make your own rule. It's your contract. Why should government be the pimp and make them? Why should one contract, made by legislators, based on their interests and voters' interests, govern all marriage?

 

[oldgym]

Don't kid yourself, married chicks are easier to bang than singles.

if marriage were the NBA

1. successful marriage = LA lakers
2. marriage on the rocks = LA clippers
3. dating with no marriage = pickup games at the park
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1. successful marriage = LA lakers
there is something about loyalty, team work and cohesiveness that make the end result that much rewarding. All participants including players, coaches and upper management are under contract, they understand their role and do an exceptional job.

2. marriage on the rocks = LA clippers
you dont trust each other and the chemistry isnt there. something must change, either divorce or re commitment.


3. dating with no marriage = pickup games at the park
without contracts and organization you cannot play in the NBA and must settle for pick up games at the park, being the king of new york is not the same as being world champions.

 

[jetto]

Hmm...

Would it be better for the society if there were more marriages rather than less? Yes. Why? Simple: marriages are the most stable institution for families, families mean kids, kids means reproduction, families means kids with both parents which is what it takes to bring up a healthy, normal kid - 2 parents, not just 1. So basically it means more healthy member of society and population growth. Also the society is then more stable.

If you wanna see what happens when marriage is low, divorces are high, and single mothers is high and out-wedlock kids is high - just look at the African American society in USA - not the most model society in the world. Dysfunctional family units, kids becoming criminals, etc. Look at many Western Europe countries where population growth is negative (more people die than born) cause people like sex but don't wanna "multiply". Those countries are bound to become dominated by those who love to multiply (Muslim immigrants, etc).

So... in other words: marriage is "serious business" and decline of this institution has huge consequnces for the society. Cannot be underestimated.

Which brings me to the next question: do we even give a fuck?

In Western societies the highest value is the individual and his or her interests. So if you wanna fuck around until you're 50 and have multiple sexual partners and 0 kids - can anyone tell you that you shouldn't do that because it's not good for the society at large? Nope, no one can. You probably don't give two fucks about the "society at large".

And therein lies the problem Rampant individualism takes precedence over "the grater social good." So as individuals have more freedom to do whatever they wanna do - the society as a whole will inevitably suffer when "common good" is no longer a factor and is no longer enforced. It's already happening. I'm not judging anyone, I'm just an observer

 

[teguh123]

Common good is automatically enforced under capitalism. Current marriage is the main cause of poverty in the world.

Imagine if all women are free to share rich smart males. Then all kids will have rich smart dad. There goes poverty. Marriage laws in western society is made mainly to prevent that from happening.

Marriage vs prostitution is more like command economy vs free market. Productivity is maximized where people are free to define their contract as they see fit free from government control as long as it is consensual.

The problem in Europe is not declining of marriage. The problem in europe is prohibition of alternatives to normal marriage. Marriage it self sucks, and yet alternatives are illegal, taxed, or politically incorrect. The result is that only the lowest of the lowest breed. The rich simply have to pay much higher price and risk to reproduce and they simply don't. A recurrence theme in western civilization is the one least productive is the one breeding more. Compared that to free market biz where the biz that works well produce more subsidiaries and branches.

 

[jeffrey]

Common good is automatically enforced under capitalism. Current marriage is the main cause of poverty in the world.

Imagine if all women are free to share rich smart males. Then all kids will have rich smart dad. There goes poverty. Marriage laws in western society is made mainly to prevent that from happening.

Marriage vs prostitution is more like command economy vs free market. Productivity is maximized where people are free to define their contract as they see fit free from government control as long as it is consensual.

The problem in Europe is not declining of marriage. The problem in europe is prohibition of alternatives to normal marriage. Marriage it self sucks, and yet alternatives are illegal, taxed, or politically incorrect. The result is that only the lowest of the lowest breed. The rich simply have to pay much higher price and risk to reproduce and they simply don't. A recurrence theme in western civilization is the one least productive is the one breeding more. Compared that to free market biz where the biz that works well produce more subsidiaries and branches.

Do you fucking think before you speak? Poverty isn't caused by marriage, it's cause by greed and corruption within governments.

 

[AdvExtreamer]

I've been married 25 years.. I sort of like it..

Although i'm delaying marriage as long as possible, you sir deserve +rep

 

[teguh123]

Do you fucking think before you speak? Poverty isn't caused by marriage, it's cause by greed and corruption within governments.

Poverty happens because government interfere in economy. One such intervention is defining marriage (as monogamy) and prohibiting alternatives.

If government is small, then corruption will be small too. The smart will just earn money on private sector there isn't money to steal in the first place.

=jettoSo if you wanna fuck around until you're 50 and have multiple sexual partners and 0 kids. can anyone tell you that you shouldn't do that because it's not good for the society at large? Nope, no one can. You probably don't give two fucks about the "society at large".

What about the other way around. What about if you're a millionaire and want to make 100 kids with 50 women. It's good for "society at large". Now future generation will have another 100 millionaires rather than another 100 welfare parasites. But society at large, prevent that from happening.

Prostitution and polygamy is illegal. Cohabitation agreement is not popular yet and will be illegal once popular.