Islam Penalty For Apostasy

This shit again?

Seriously?



Sources:
Islam in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and
The Future of the Global Muslim Population - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

As for the current rates:
Sweden has a Muslim population of 3% projected to 9.9% in 2030
Germany's Mulsims currently dock in at 5%, projected to 7.1% in 2030
The UK clocks 4.6% Muslims, and is projected to arrive at 8.2% in 2030

This is hardly the hostile takeover you envision.

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You have more patience than I do, emp.

I've officially given up with this topic. It's like trying to explain evolution to a bunch of creationists. No matter how much evidence you show them, they just use it to further entrench their beliefs. Pure confirmation bias.
 


You have more patience than I do, emp.

I've officially given up with this topic. It's like trying to explain evolution to a bunch of creationists. No matter how much evidence you show them, they just use it to further entrench their beliefs. Pure confirmation bias.

based on your posts, it seems you're fine with islam because you've married a nice muslim woman from a nice muslim family and they're all good and decent humans. no offence, but who cares?

1) you have a small sample size
2) your wife is probably not a good person because of her religion.

just because she's nice doesn't mean her religion isn't ancient, vile, and violent trash. islamic beheadings don't come from economics. without a belief in martyrdom, 9-11 would not have been possible.

those are but a few examples of terrible things that happened because of islam. i don't like terrible things and i would definitely argue that islam is a terrible thing on the whole as it is by far a force for misery more than it is a force for good. it could easily be replaced with something less fundamentalist and violent, whatever benefits it imparts aren't only available to those who adhere to it's ancient ramblings. i can get a sense of community and something greater by having my own friends and community and rituals and wonderment.

i'm not arguing muslims taking over europe, i'm also not defending any other religions, i just think islam is a completely shitty belief system....one of the absolute worst...i don't see why you think it's something that's worth defending.
 
You have more patience than I do, emp.

I've officially given up with this topic. It's like trying to explain evolution to a bunch of creationists. No matter how much evidence you show them, they just use it to further entrench their beliefs. Pure confirmation bias.

i'm not saying the following:

1) all (or most) muslim people are bad and evil and violent
2) Islam is the only source of violence in the world

i would totally 100% disagree with those two statements above.

here's what i am saying:

i'm saying Islam has violent teachings that are elemental to a true belief in all of Islam. extremists are extreme in their faith. meaning, they're the best representations of what their faith truly is. if you behave well and don't "kill the infidel" as a muslim individual, that is not a positive testament to the beauty and peace inherent in Islam, it is a testament to the progress brought about by science, modernity, and secular values.
 
This thread needs to be shutdown.... too much hate in this thread

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Are you kidding. Islam asks to be hated. Its one of the greatest evils in the modern world.

Moar Dawkins
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNv8kvd2H8"]Richard Dawkins "Islam Is One Of The Great Evils In The World" - YouTube[/ame]
 
This shit again?

Seriously?



Sources:
Islam in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and
The Future of the Global Muslim Population - Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life

As for the current rates:
Sweden has a Muslim population of 3% projected to 9.9% in 2030
Germany's Mulsims currently dock in at 5%, projected to 7.1% in 2030
The UK clocks 4.6% Muslims, and is projected to arrive at 8.2% in 2030

This is hardly the hostile takeover you envision.

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Oddly enough, this report Sweden has Sweden at 5.23% which is 74% higher than your estimate.

Additionally, the pew study doesn't take into account that the non-muslim birth rate in 10-20 years will be almost non-existant,while muslim rate (Although lower than today) will still be quite high.

I personally am not worried about 2030, I am worried about 2050. Birth rates by then would put the Muslim population in dominance in Europe on a wholesale level.
 
I used to live in Vancouver BC, and there is an area in the Vancouver metropolitan called Richmond. This place is 100% Chinese. Literally. You can't even find road signs in English anymore (in certain areas). Article in the newspaper last weeks on a subject I don't remember highlighting Richmond as a "Diverse and ethnic" city. Hardly gets a laugh from me though. It's basically Hong Kong. Nothing "diverse" about it, at least by the common definition of diverse (see: not white, or less white).

I don't understand how you go from Islam to Chinese. You know why Richmond? Because the name stand out and we are fucking rich. We don't rape, we buy the fuck out of your white sluts, fuck their brains out, short dick but we put a lot more effort.

3 Chinese walk down the street in suit, they gonna buy your city.

Chinese hobo on the street in western country, said no one ever.

Now fuck you.
 
I don't understand how you go from Islam to Chinese. You know why Richmond? Because the name stand out and we are fucking rich. We don't rape, we buy the fuck out of your white sluts, fuck their brains out, short dick but we put a lot more effort.

3 Chinese walk down the street in suit, they gonna buy your city.

Chinese hobo on the street in western country, said no one ever.

Now fuck you.

I think the point was that no one is demanding diversity in Richmond. No one is calling the chinese racist for not inviting other ethnicities into their neighborhood. It's only white people who are not allowed to want to live with other white people. White and Asian people get along just fine.
 
I don't understand how you go from Islam to Chinese. You know why Richmond? Because the name stand out and we are fucking rich. We don't rape, we buy the fuck out of your white sluts, fuck their brains out, short dick but we put a lot more effort.

3 Chinese walk down the street in suit, they gonna buy your city.

Chinese hobo on the street in western country, said no one ever.

Now fuck you.

This guy has spirit. I like that.

But if we looked at who is still exporting the most sluts per capita it's prob China to America rather than America to China. Anyone got some stats on this? Moxie?

I will admit that Americas successful run will be over when our women start selling themselves to foreigners en masse. Women are always the first to go when a country's financial situation gets bad. They're loyal like that.
 
based on your posts, it seems you're fine with islam because you've married a nice muslim woman from a nice muslim family and they're all good and decent humans. no offence, but who cares?

1) you have a small sample size
2) your wife is probably not a good person because of her religion.

just because she's nice doesn't mean her religion isn't ancient, vile, and violent trash. islamic beheadings don't come from economics. without a belief in martyrdom, 9-11 would not have been possible.

those are but a few examples of terrible things that happened because of islam. i don't like terrible things and i would definitely argue that islam is a terrible thing on the whole as it is by far a force for misery more than it is a force for good. it could easily be replaced with something less fundamentalist and violent, whatever benefits it imparts aren't only available to those who adhere to it's ancient ramblings. i can get a sense of community and something greater by having my own friends and community and rituals and wonderment.

i'm not arguing muslims taking over europe, i'm also not defending any other religions, i just think islam is a completely shitty belief system....one of the absolute worst...i don't see why you think it's something that's worth defending.

I get the sense that being right about this is extremely important to you.
 
He is probably talking about arabs/muslims, some part of the world refer to them as Asians.

If I was an Asian and people were calling muslims Asians, I'd fucking blow a fuse.

You know that the biggest muslim country in the world is Indonesia, right?

You know that there are more muslims in Western China than the entire Syria?

So yeah, there are a lot of "muslim asians" out there bro. And they have nothing to do with the Middle East.
 
When islam gets me down, I watch this for a bit of a laugh

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEDcNWFsles]Punishment in the Grave!! - YouTube[/ame]
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUg-1NCCowc"]Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett - SUBTITLE - YouTube[/ame]


Dawkins chewing the fat with Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett and the late great Christopher Hitchens...

I really miss Hitchens, the man is a legend.

His book "God is not Great" is a cracker.
 
I get the sense that being right about this is extremely important to you.

you mean because i care about the topic and the wellbeing/progress of my world? i have a sense being right here is just as important to you. you're the one who pops into every religion thread to defend an entire belief system because you know a single believer (maybe even a few).

i'm sorry if i have a solid answer that you don't care to combat with any form of logic whatsoever. probably because you have no logic that beats the logic i set out. you just have your nice wife and a whole world of misery (subjugation of women, arcane laws), stemming from a certain religion, miles away from your muslim reality.

an acid attack happens...what is the most likely religion of the attacker? do you have any doubt whatsoever as to the most likely source? is that same reaction likely to occur from within atheism, ie. non-belief?
 
You know that the biggest muslim country in the world is Indonesia, right?

You know that there are more muslims in Western China than the entire Syria?

So yeah, there are a lot of "muslim asians" out there bro. And they have nothing to do with the Middle East.

Uk people call Indians and Pakistanis for Asian where as for the rest of the world, Asian usually means south-east to east Asia.

Indonesian, Thai and Malay muslims are nowhere near as fundamental as arabs and pakistanis. Somehow Islam only brings out the worst in Arabs and Pakistanis.
 
More people have been killed in the name of "God", than any other single purpose in the history of man kind. And it doesn't matter what your religion is, because they are all guilty of it!
 
Sweden has a Muslim population of 3% projected to 9.9% in 2030

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You sound like a disgusting little dhimmi apologist.

Here's some real numbers as opposed to the Wikipedia propaganda you so eagerly copied and pasted.

Muslim Population In Sweden (Total Population: 9.4 million)

1998: 284,000
2011: 574,000

1998: 3.21%
2011: 6.05%

It's pretty easy to extrapolate those out. They're doubling roughly every 10 years. It's an exponential curve.

Projected Muslim Population In Sweden

2020: 12%
2030: 24%
2040: 48%
2050: 96%


"We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.” - Swedish Democracy Minister Jens Orback.
 
You sound like a disgusting little dhimmi apologist.

Here's some real numbers as opposed to the Wikipedia propaganda you so eagerly copied and pasted.

Muslim Population In Sweden (Total Population: 9.4 million)

1998: 284,000
2011: 574,000

1998: 3.21%
2011: 6.05%

It's pretty easy to extrapolate those out. They're doubling roughly every 10 years. It's an exponential curve.

Projected Muslim Population In Sweden

2020: 12%
2030: 24%
2040: 48%
2050: 96%


"We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.” - Swedish Democracy Minister Jens Orback.

What's your source?

EDIT: NM I see

How they collected their data, hmm:

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you mean because i care about the topic and the wellbeing/progress of my world? i have a sense being right here is just as important to you. you're the one who pops into every religion thread to defend an entire belief system because you know a single believer (maybe even a few).

i'm sorry if i have a solid answer that you don't care to combat with any form of logic whatsoever. probably because you have no logic that beats the logic i set out. you just have your nice wife and a whole world of misery (subjugation of women, arcane laws), stemming from a certain religion, miles away from your muslim reality.

an acid attack happens...what is the most likely religion of the attacker? do you have any doubt whatsoever as to the most likely source? is that same reaction likely to occur from within atheism, ie. non-belief?

I'm confused. What concrete objectives do you hope to achieve by arguing about something on a forum?