Islam Penalty For Apostasy
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Ok, but I'm still not clear about how you think I'm different from these hypothetical fence-sitters?
We're all screwed. Muslims are taking over the world. OBAMA IS THEIR LEADER.
We must stop this. Do your part.
I hereby call on ALL whites, some blacks and some mexicans to go fuckin bang out and inseminate as much pussy as possible.
The future of the world is in your pants!!!!!!!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLMLXi8L9PA]© Muslim Population: Will Islam Take Over the World? - YouTube[/ame]
We must stop this. Do your part.
I hereby call on ALL whites, some blacks and some mexicans to go fuckin bang out and inseminate as much pussy as possible.
The future of the world is in your pants!!!!!!!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLMLXi8L9PA]© Muslim Population: Will Islam Take Over the World? - YouTube[/ame]
You're arguing on the web about how pointless it is to argue on the web?
The very fact that you're still here shows how apparently important it is to you.
I'm not sure I understand. How does its importance or otherwise to me affect how pointless it is for someone else to engage in?
Obama is a coward traitor who exploits a few ignorant children just like hitler did. This freak has NO SHAME. He lies constantly. THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THOSE WHO INSULT MOHAMMED. Piss on Islam. The evil caveman barbaric "Moon god" cult religion of hatred and death. Cavemen control freaks do NOT belong in a modern world. Piss on Mohammed the molester and piss on the silly book of filth and lies. Of course we will always insult this evil murder and death cult from satans ass!!
And pre-marital sex under Islam will get you something like this I guess:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQeNJ71mOwE]malaysian punishment lets see once.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]
I guess some 15yo girl is getting 100 lashes for having sex.
Maldives teen faces 100 lashes for fornication - CNN.com
The worst part being, there's loads of Muslims out there willing to sacrifice and even die to protect this type of lifestyle. Crazy...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQeNJ71mOwE]malaysian punishment lets see once.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]
I guess some 15yo girl is getting 100 lashes for having sex.
Maldives teen faces 100 lashes for fornication - CNN.com
The worst part being, there's loads of Muslims out there willing to sacrifice and even die to protect this type of lifestyle. Crazy...
when you said this:
i thought you were implying you, also, have a strong position that is unlikely to change. that's also supported by what i've seen of your past posts in which you reliably come to the aid of islam, defending the fairly rational majority while turning a blind eye to acid attacks/suicide bombings/subjugation of women and other travesties that clearly are only able to arise from the faith itself. if you've read the koran without being brainwashed into the faith at a young age, even a random page, you'd know what i mean when i say the koran is ridiculously violent and abhorrent and a terrible document on which to base your morals. i assume you haven't looked at the koran at all, otherwise you wouldn't dare be defending such babble. (you haven't defended the koran, per se, but you're defending the people who base their entire existence on the violent book...or are you only defending the partially secular, wish-washy, moderate, brainwashed zombies?)
if you've formed a strong position about something, you're less likely to evolve your position than someone without a clear position.
I'm pretty sure you're trolling right now, but knowing your history I can't be certain, so I'm just going to respond like you're actually being serious.
Your post is all around a terribly flawed argument, the fact that you think this is intellectually sound is kind of pathetic. Allow me to offer the "counterpoint" that Moxie hinted at which you so blatantly ignored.
Breakdown of your argument: The two data points you provided show an increase in muslim population from around 3% to 6% over roughly a ten year period. So because Muslim population doubled over this isolated ten year period, we can assume that the Muslim population will continue to double for every decade to come.
Obvious flaw: You created your "exponential trend" from two data points. This is hardly enough information to create a trend of any kind, especially with the assumptions that you make for your projected population increase. Want proof? Here's some of my own data analysis using your similar reasoning.
Linear trend:
2000: 3%
2010: 6%
2020: 9%
2030: 12%
2040: 15%
2050: 18%
Logarithmic trend:
2000: 3%
2010: 6%
2020: 7.75%
2030: 9%
2040: 10%
2050: 10.75%
Bell curve:
2000: 3%
2010: 6%
2020: 12%
2025: 15%
2030: 12%
2040: 6%
2050: 3%
Do I need to spell it out? The population trends change based on the assumptions you make for human behavior.
Historically speaking, population statistics don't change at the dramatic exponential rate that you project. I really can't think of any past scenario that relate to your expectations, but the closest real life example would probably be from a period of prolonged genocide, which means that you would have to be making some serious assumptions about the future development of history for your projections to be even remotely close to true.
In reality, the muslim population is a hell of a lot more likely to follow one of the above three scenarios. Just look at how populations change around the world and you'll see that this current "trend" is actually rather natural. Need an example? Go find the U.S. immigration census statistics for the past century and you'll see the above scenarios represented in some way or another. In early 1900's there was a huge wave of European immigration that then decreased significantly a few decades later (bell curve). For the past 30 years, there's been a steady increase in immigrants from Latin America (linear).
As for why the muslim population is increasing in Europe: I think the most reasonable explanation is that basically every country the middle east are now war zones with bombs getting dropped on them weekly and people fighting in the streets. Obviously there will be people that are gonna say "fuck that" and leave, and where do you think they would go? Hmmm... Maybe countries close by that tolerate them i.e. western Europe.
If you want to get nit-picky, there's also the fact that over the past decade Islam has become the most practiced religion around the world. This suggests that you would likely see an increase in muslims everywhere, as some people are converting from other religions. This would could inflate the "muslim population" numbers, and I think your personal issues with countries like England and Sweden are really from the muslim immigration numbers (the brown extremists from Iran, not the Swede who decided he didn't want to be Christian anymore). Even so, the discrepancy probably isn't that significant, but it is still a flaw in the argument you presented.
With all that said, it doesn't mean that muslim extremists aren't a problem. Their religion is violent and a lot of rhetoric coming from that camp is worrying at times. But to expect a muslim takeover of Europe... relax bro.
Tl;dr - Fuck you Hellblazer
ok, so if not mine, whose position are you looking to change? yours? now I really am confused.
@Mattlock25:
I think what you're not aware of (and what Hellboy could have explained a lot better) is that the native Europeans are not procreating as much as they used to. In fact, before the Muslim immigration wave, the population 'growth' in the EU was in freefall since the early 1960s. Like Japan today, they just weren't as interested in procreation as they used to be:
Keep in mind that the various countries adopted their more open immigration policies between the 1990s and early 2000s. See what they did there?
If the EU had had a xenophobic immigration law for the last couple of decades instead, then the people of the EU would be facing extinction within 100 years given their previous "natural" native population growth rate. They were going extinct on their own, and arguably, they knew it so decided to open the floodgates hoping that immigrants would integrate and become Europeans.
Somehow they kinda forgot that Islam was still waiting for payback from the crusades. Dumb fucking mistake.
Immigration laws then got more lax and today the fastest growing group out of all 'ethnic' groups across all of Europe is Muslim... Of course they won't show you charts of this compared correctly to make it obvious. You have to extrapolate to figure it out. Good luck if you're up to looking for them; I hope you do find some and post them here.
Meanwhile, conflicts in cities like Malmo tell me enough so that the rest is almost inconsequential... The muslims aren't integrating and the natives are flocking out of there in droves.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfYAhQ4I4Uk]Violent muslim riots in Rosengård, Malmö, Sweden, December 2008 - YouTube[/ame]
I think what you're not aware of (and what Hellboy could have explained a lot better) is that the native Europeans are not procreating as much as they used to. In fact, before the Muslim immigration wave, the population 'growth' in the EU was in freefall since the early 1960s. Like Japan today, they just weren't as interested in procreation as they used to be:
Keep in mind that the various countries adopted their more open immigration policies between the 1990s and early 2000s. See what they did there?
If the EU had had a xenophobic immigration law for the last couple of decades instead, then the people of the EU would be facing extinction within 100 years given their previous "natural" native population growth rate. They were going extinct on their own, and arguably, they knew it so decided to open the floodgates hoping that immigrants would integrate and become Europeans.
Somehow they kinda forgot that Islam was still waiting for payback from the crusades. Dumb fucking mistake.
Immigration laws then got more lax and today the fastest growing group out of all 'ethnic' groups across all of Europe is Muslim... Of course they won't show you charts of this compared correctly to make it obvious. You have to extrapolate to figure it out. Good luck if you're up to looking for them; I hope you do find some and post them here.
Meanwhile, conflicts in cities like Malmo tell me enough so that the rest is almost inconsequential... The muslims aren't integrating and the natives are flocking out of there in droves.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfYAhQ4I4Uk]Violent muslim riots in Rosengård, Malmö, Sweden, December 2008 - YouTube[/ame]
yours and anybody else reading this thread who doesn't agree or doesn't have an opinion? it's not impossible that you or anybody else reading here today could change their opinion. nice trolling.
Are you aware that you could substitute any belief system / religion into your replies on this thread?
no. you absolutely could not. go on. try it. please be sure to sample a fair number of the replies.
do you realize i'm not defending any other religion or belief system?...i'm criticising one (and i'm capable of criticising others). remember, this thread isn't primarily about other belief systems.
do you realize all belief systems are not created equal? they're not all equally true/valid/right and they don't all produce the same results. are you a proponent of acid attacks in the name of allah? i haven't heard any critical remarks from you on that. i'll assume you're fine with them as they're justified by the koran itself. what if they were carried out, instead, in the name of big bird? which one would be more acceptable and understandable to you?
100 Internetbux per hour. The hours are pretty good, I can put a good word in with the Islamic propaganda department of arabia if you're interested? Always looking for smart guys like yourself.
so you think acid attacks in the name of the big bird would be more acceptable and understandable?
I was once very anti-Muslim. I thought they are wrong claiming Western world is rotten...
...and then... ...one day...
...I've visited Wickedfire headquarter. I saw Jeffrey riding naked on Schrute. I saw ly2 from WF having Grindstaone's cock in his mouth (whole 12 inches). Ice was shouting "I'm a mod, I can fuck whoever I want". Kani's anus was fully opened and WF members were entering it one after another. Faceblogger was sniffing cocaine from the back of naked amateursurgeon. ShaddowCaster was beating Turbolapp shouting "why you no shemale" and "i like everything". Productionhead was kissing Zsaalem, petting Dresden's balls with his left hand at the same time. CCarter was on every peasant he spotted (I had to keep running away from him). Everyone was drunk. Only pewep couldn't get laid. The rest is too explicit to be written here.
After that day I support Muslim views on Western world.
...and then... ...one day...
...I've visited Wickedfire headquarter. I saw Jeffrey riding naked on Schrute. I saw ly2 from WF having Grindstaone's cock in his mouth (whole 12 inches). Ice was shouting "I'm a mod, I can fuck whoever I want". Kani's anus was fully opened and WF members were entering it one after another. Faceblogger was sniffing cocaine from the back of naked amateursurgeon. ShaddowCaster was beating Turbolapp shouting "why you no shemale" and "i like everything". Productionhead was kissing Zsaalem, petting Dresden's balls with his left hand at the same time. CCarter was on every peasant he spotted (I had to keep running away from him). Everyone was drunk. Only pewep couldn't get laid. The rest is too explicit to be written here.
After that day I support Muslim views on Western world.