KimDotCom Steps Up! F U Mr. President!

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I own the intellectual rights.
No you don't. You don't own what is in the mind of another person.

That's capitalism.
It's mercantilism, it's protectionism, and sometimes, it's fascism.

It has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism.

So it's a more worthwhile venture. I think the folk at Dragon's Den and Shark Tank would agree with that.
You avoided answering the question.

Why are people ENTITLED to make their money back? Where did this ENTITLEMENT come from?
 
No you don't. You don't own what is in the mind of another person.
I was talking of self being the owner of the original thought that led to an original product development that is unique to my efforts and no one else.

It's mercantilism, it's protectionism, and sometimes, it's fascism.

It has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism.
Regardless of the term you give it, it is also capitalism.

You avoided answering the question.Why are people ENTITLED to make their money back? Where did this ENTITLEMENT come from?
Not at all.
i know what you're asking but it is meaningless imo. I think any investor is entitled at the very least to receive back his initial investment. The entitlement is surely part of this, otherwise why bother.
 
I was talking of self being the owner of the original thought that led to an original product development that is unique to my efforts and no one else.

By that argument, michael phelps should be able to patent his superior stroke.

Regardless of the term you give it, it is also capitalism.

Within one sentence, you declare that terms mean shit, but make it your point that its totally capitalism

Not at all.
i know what you're asking but it is meaningless imo. I think any investor is entitled at the very least to receive back his initial investment. The entitlement is surely part of this, otherwise why bother.

So the worst possible outcome of investing money should be 0? Before or after taxes? One of those twisted arguments where the socialist needs to strengthen the position of what he seeks to destroy, because otherwise hed be obsolete.
 
I like how he's bitching about Hollywood but then repeatedly shows the masked character from Vendetta ....... a Hollywood movie.
 

If nanotech comes through... it is quite likely that in the future you will be able to download a script that will inject itself into a nanomachine with programmable nanoassemblers that will make bread from basic ingredients that you buy in the nano section of the supermarket.

just sayin'

By that argument, michael phelps should be able to patent his superior stroke.

Let's keep this PG plskthx.
 
I like how he's bitching about Hollywood but then repeatedly shows the masked character from Vendetta ....... a Hollywood movie.

the vendetta mask symbolizes the gunpowder plot, not some stupid hollywood movie. has to do with overthrowing oppressive regimes.
 
I was talking of self being the owner of the original thought that led to an original product development that is unique to my efforts and no one else.
No thought is original. All thoughts are derivative. Even the way you have learned to think is derivative.

What you're proposing is that effort = value. That's called the labour theory of value. It's been considered an economic fallacy for about 150 years.

All value is subjective.

Regardless of the term you give it, it is also capitalism.
I'm the wrong guy to argue definitions with, particularly economic ones. Capitalism has a very precise definition, and in no way applies to the modern delusion of "intellectual property" better termed, "intellectual monopoly".

I think any investor is entitled at the very least to receive back his initial investment. The entitlement is surely part of this, otherwise why bother.
Entitled is another word with a precise meaning. Every investor wants to recoup his investment and make a profit, but they are not ENTITLED to it.

To be entitled to recoup your investment means there should be relatively no risk. You're basically asking for a reality where

1. Entrepreneurship is paint by numbers since no one should ever go broke for a bad product or idea at the wrong time.

2. Other people OWE some value to the people who are ENTITLED to get a return, regardless of the merit of the project they started.

You're a dangerous thinker because you haven't done enough thinking. Please never vote.
 
I'm not gonna take Kim's word for it. He's got a case to win.

He's not gonna be objective.
 
I'm not gonna take Kim's word for it. He's got a case to win.

He's not gonna be objective.
Fine, then look at the external facts, like what you already know about competing services that were not destroyed by the US Government, or like how the MPAA and RIAA have lobbies that bombard us with horrible bills like SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA on a non-stop basis...

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If that's not enough to show you the motivation trail then you're just not thinking hard enough...
 
Fine, then look at the external facts, like what you already know about competing services that were not destroyed by the US Government, or like how the MPAA and RIAA have lobbies that bombard us with horrible bills like SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA on a non-stop basis...

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If that's not enough to show you the motivation trail then you're just not thinking hard enough...

I'm not questioning the fact that there's a problem with industry lobbying efforts.

What I'm questioning is whether Kim Dotcom is a good source of information and the best poster-boy to fight the MPAA/RIAA.

I wanted to get some balanced perspective on the case, and I couldn't get any anywhere.
 
OK, to me all Laws, Rules, Regulations, Legalize, etc. etc....(Just to generalize here.) are like a Gun.


The only way It/They can serve It's/Their purpose is by DESTRUCTION.


Whether it's used for protection/defense, so-called good, or to attack, so-called bad.

The gun owner may use the WEAPON at his or her discretion. It is a VERY biased action in any case.


The same is true with the enforcement of Laws, Rules, Legalize, etc. etc.....




Back to the original topic.



It really doesn't matter what the FACTS are in the Kim Case. The whole thing is BS anyway.


Justice and Fairness are ever changing intangibles, as are Injustices and Unfairness.


In the Untied States of America our forefathers were "TERRORISTS"!!!!!! Had they not WON, that's how they would've been viewed by history.


So, everything is Subjective and As Guerrilla has pointed out everything is Derivative..



I'll Fantasize for a moment, "Oh how GREAT it would be if the Human race had a better developed Genetic Memory!! To have the accumulative KNOWLEDGE of all of our Ancestors when we are born!! To be able to have all that experience from the start."



There really are no absolutes, though like a dog chasing it's own tail, Humans are always looking for them.