Let's talk about Death

The way I see it your argument is pretty much the same as how there were only a few computers 40 years ago on the whole world and now almost everyone in the developed world has at least one (desktop computer and portable computer - smartphone).
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Well we're talking about a thousand times the transistors that go into modern day computers in EVERY SHIRT WE OWN. We also have to take into account that there will be a lot more people in developed countries by that time as the population is expanding and the general quality of life is rising quickly for people in underdeveloped nations. There just isn't enough metals and other materials to make and support that. Even if we had the raw materials, it would produce more carbon than our environment could handle to produce the things. I'm not saying that the technology isn't possible. I'm saying that it isn't practical.

And people are talking about the desktop computer dying and smartphones taking over. It's all a bunch of hype. I know I don't want to substitute my large 24" (soon to be 27") monitor for a little 3.5" screen on a smartphone. Not to mention the fact that if something goes wrong with the smartphone that you're shit out of luck and have to shell out $500. No thanks. I'll stick with my fast, upgradeable desktop with huge amounts of ram, space, and screen real estate along with a very low price tag, thanks anyways. People are always trying to predict the future. What they don't realize is just because you're capable of making something doesn't mean that people are going to want it.

I think the future will be full of more computers than we can imagine, but I still think we'll have desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets, and maybe the netbook can survive (though I doubt it). At the same time though, your tabletop will be intelligent and will be able to interact with you. Medical technology will take incredible leaps through theoretical simulations that allow doctors and scientists to do thousands of unique experiments at a time without having to use humans and animals to test things on. But as for computers in our clothes....it might happen. But not to the extreme extent as described in the video. Our clothes will have simple computers that will be able to monitor things such as our health status, the time, and other very simple things that doesn't require much computing power. Or maybe we'll have that built into our smartphones too and no one will really want computers in their clothes.

The future is bright but it's not as drastic as they make it seem. People are slow to adapt and the new stuff always costs a fortune and takes a long time to become affordable enough so that people making less than seven figure incomes can afford it.
 


From the looks of the posting frequency in this thread; there is definitely some interest in the topic.

@OP -- At least you're not wishing for death, or contemplating suicide. Some people are lucky, since they aren't scared of death at all, but your problem isn't so bad: Since you realize your own mortality, yet you don't necessarily welcome it. Time to go live life man.
 
In theory, death is a part of 'life'. Who's to say there isn't a form of consciousness after one dies? I relate to your feelings about the unknown and odd feelings about dying...and it happens to everybody; no one can factually state what death leads to. It's a confusing and sensitive subject. My advice: try to live your life as content as possible and keep hold of what's truly important to you.
 
cardine said:
According to Moore's Law law cheap ($1000) computers will reach the processing capacity of the human brain of the brain by 2025, which is before we will run into physical limitations that will end Moore's Law (Intel has said they expect Moore's Law to continue until appx. 2029). All we need to do is reach that tipping point and incredible things will begin to happen. So I still think Kurzweil's timeline is pretty accurate.
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Yeah that makes sense but I've read somewhere, could be on singularityhub.com that in fact the speed of computing processing advancement has slowed down in the past years. Can't really provide a link to that but I'm fairly sure that's the case what's going on right now.

Another counter-Kurzweil argument, if I play the devils advocate for a bit, is the fact his 2010 predictions from a decade ago haven't truly come true.

But I got a lot of respect for the man especially because of his prediction about computer VS chess and how his company started developing the reading aid for blind even before needed hardware was available because they took in account the expected technological advancements.

I think that last year an equivalent of cat cerebral cortex was simulated and a few years ago the whole HIV virus design down to the atoms for a few milliseconds - and both of these feats just show we'll probably be able to simulate an equivalent of human brain by 2020. Currently the main issue is mapping neural paths... specific ion channels and not just counting the number of neurons and thinking that's the real deal.
 
titanium777 said:
In theory, death is a part of 'life'. Who's to say there isn't a form of consciousness after one dies? I relate to your feelings about the unknown and odd feelings about dying...and it happens to everybody; no one can factually state what death leads to. It's a confusing and sensitive subject. My advice: try to live your life as content as possible and keep hold of what's truly important to you.
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I totally agree on this one!

But as another thought, if we ever want to extend our lives, we should tryout some cryonics stuff as well. For those who want to, why not get rich now so as to save money for a future cryonics subscription.

LOL...just a thought.
 
I think that sooner or later they're going to figure out a way of encoding your mind and saving it as data. When this happens we can all upload ourselves to secure servers, and wait for a decent enough mode of transport to come along, be it some kind of robot or synthetic person. Then we can change our bodies whenever we get bored. This would make the need for transport redundant, as we could all just email ourselves to wherever we fancy, and hire a body whilst we're there.
 
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

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IMHopeful said:
From the looks of the posting frequency in this thread; there is definitely some interest in the topic.

@OP -- At least you're not wishing for death, or contemplating suicide. Some people are lucky, since they aren't scared of death at all, but your problem isn't so bad: Since you realize your own mortality, yet you don't necessarily welcome it. Time to go live life man.
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Yeah I totally agree about the whole living my life thing. I have the feeling though that as long as I won't actually welcome death/accept that it's part of life, in a way, I won't be able to fully live it.
 
dying is just a quick ban from the forum of life. come back with a new account if its that important to ya
 
I don't fear it, but I don't do crazy risky things (besides some slightly bad surfing decisions and the occasional blackout).

However, I am going out on my own terms. I control my life, and hope to control my death. Some day, when I'm either terminal or just done with this existence, I'm going out for one last paddle and not coming back. But I'd say that time is about 50 years away.

Further, my family knows to pull the plug if I'm a vegetable with no signs of recovery - I don't want that for myself or my loved ones.
 
cardine said:
I truly believe that in my lifetime humans will achieve indefinite lifespans due to singularity.
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DO NOT WANT!

pickledegg said:
I think that sooner or later they're going to figure out a way of encoding your mind and saving it as data. When this happens we can all upload ourselves to secure servers, and wait for a decent enough mode of transport to come along, be it some kind of robot or synthetic person. Then we can change our bodies whenever we get bored. This would make the need for transport redundant, as we could all just email ourselves to wherever we fancy, and hire a body whilst we're there.
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So, you're saying that you'll die but you'll copies behind. Thanks man, the human kind would suffer alot without you.

LOL narcissistic prick LOL
 
Francky683 said:
How have you got over the fact that you are going to die one day?
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Just because people have been brainwashed into believing that they are going to die one day doesn't make it fact.

Ways to avoid death:

  • Religion - the quickest way to ensure that you don't die... you just move on and eventually get resurrected depending on the religion.
  • Cloning - been around for awhile, it just isn't talked about.
  • Cryogenics - not the best solution, because you are still old when you get thawed.
  • Beat him in checkers - I did and he's letting me live just because I promised not to tell anyone... shit.
 
kblessinggr said:
Course there's a difference between that and simply appreciating life. To fear death is to fear unaccomplished things or to fear how your life has been thus far. Doubt creates fear, its possible to love and appreciate life without fearing death.
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To fear death doesn't necessarily mean you fear unaccomplished things, it simply means you realize life will cease - and since you love life(something not everyone can say) - you don't want to change life for eternal nothingness.
 
VonRohn said:
Well, I take really good care of my health so I can live enough time to benefit from the upcoming life extension technologies.

I also make a big pile of $ and plan to spend some of it funding life extension. If that fails, there's cryogenics.
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My strategy exactly! lol
 
Thinking about death is by far the fastest and easiest way to get depressed. I try to be ignorant to it. I mean seriously we work so fucking hard and the truth is none of it even matters once we die. Just thinking about it just makes me want to say FUCK IT and enjoy myself as much as possible. And that of course means hookers and blow, which would lead to a very fast downward spiral. lol

So I try to avoid talking about this shit because it's the ultimate motivational buzz kill.
 
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