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^-Arguing about others arguing on the internet is like runnin.. yeah you get it.
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Abby Martin is a "journalist" on RT, so right there her credibility is out the window.
She was a 9/11 truther and had said "I’ve researched it for three years and every single thing that I uncover solidifies my belief that it was an inside job and that our government was complicit in what happened." oh and now she "no longer subscribes" to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job. Three years down the drain I guess![]()
None the less I tried to listen to what she had to say, but within 5 mins had to switch it off. Between her stoner way of speaking (interspersed with 'fucking' here and 'fucking' there) all I was hearing from her is the same old bullshit lines that I am hearing over and over. She even denies that Hamas uses human shields, cummon. Go look at her twitter for objective journalism.
I've listened to plenty of her stuff, and she covers a wide range of topics. Most of what she has to say is level headed.
Also, she has been on RT's shit list for condemning Putin very recently.
So her position changed on a topic? How is this relevant to anything? Our opinions change from time to time..
The swearing thing is irrelevant (though a welcomed difference from standard fake journalists), but seriously.. You have the "same old bullshit lines" that are espoused on a far greater base on pro-Israel side, occurring every day on mainstream news in the US.
Her position and take on it is certainly in the minority in terms of exposure. So if we're going to bash ideas on the basis of how often they're espoused, you have to take sides against the Israel worshiping that's far more present here in the US.
The actor urges colleagues to "examine their motives," asking "Can you take back the fire of anti-Semitism that is raging all over the world now?"
My name is Jon Voight and I am more than angry, I am heartsick that people like Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem could incite anti-Semitism all over the world and are oblivious to the damage they have caused.
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They are obviously ignorant of the whole story of Israel’s birth, when in 1948 the Jewish people were offered by the UN a portion of the land originally set aside for them in 1921, and the Arab Palestinians were offered the other half. The Arabs rejected the offer, and the Jews accepted, only to be attacked by five surrounding Arab countries committed to driving them into the sea. But the Israelis won. The Arabs tried it again in 1967, and again in 1973, launching a sneak attack on the holiest Jewish holiday. Each time the Jews prevailed but not without great loss of life. And when Israel was not fighting a major war, it was defending itself against terrorist campaigns.
And yet Israel has always labored for a peaceful relation with its Arab neighbors. It voluntarily returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in return for peace, and gave the Palestinians all of Gaza as a peace gesture. What was the response? The Palestinians elected Hamas, a terrorist organization, and they immediately began firing thousands of rockets into Israel.
After years of trying to make peace, the wars they had to fight, being attacked by their enemies, and still being attacked, and finally after years of running into bomb shelters and having hundreds of civilians killed by suicide bombers, civilians being killed in their sleep, stabbed to pieces, finding enough is enough and finally retaliating, instead of my peers sticking up for the only democratic country in that region, they go and take out poison letters against them.
You have forgotten how this war started. Did Hamas not kidnap and kill three young teenagers for the sake of killing, and celebrated after the killing? What a travesty of justice.
I am asking all my peers who signed that poison letter against Israel to examine their motives. Can you take back the fire of anti-Semitism that is raging all over the world now?
You have been able to become famous and have all your monetary gains because you are in a democratic country: America. Do you think you would have been able to accomplish this in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, et cetera? You had a great responsibility to use your celebrity for good. Instead, you have defamed the only democratic country of goodwill in the Middle East: Israel.
You should hang your heads in shame. You should all come forth with deep regrets for what you did, and ask forgiveness from the suffering people in Israel.
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The actor urges colleagues to "examine their motives," asking "Can you take back the fire of anti-Semitism that is raging all over the world now?"
My name is Jon Voight and I am more than angry, I am heartsick that people like Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem could incite anti-Semitism all over the world and are oblivious to the damage they have caused.
They are obviously ignorant of the whole story of Israel’s birth, when in 1948 the Jewish people were offered by the UN a portion of the land originally set aside for them in 1921, and the Arab Palestinians were offered the other half. The Arabs rejected the offer, and the Jews accepted, only to be attacked by five surrounding Arab countries committed to driving them into the sea. But the Israelis won. The Arabs tried it again in 1967, and again in 1973, launching a sneak attack on the holiest Jewish holiday. Each time the Jews prevailed but not without great loss of life. And when Israel was not fighting a major war, it was defending itself against terrorist campaigns.
And yet Israel has always labored for a peaceful relation with its Arab neighbors. It voluntarily returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in return for peace, and gave the Palestinians all of Gaza as a peace gesture. What was the response? The Palestinians elected Hamas, a terrorist organization, and they immediately began firing thousands of rockets into Israel.
After years of trying to make peace, the wars they had to fight, being attacked by their enemies, and still being attacked, and finally after years of running into bomb shelters and having hundreds of civilians killed by suicide bombers, civilians being killed in their sleep, stabbed to pieces, finding enough is enough and finally retaliating, instead of my peers sticking up for the only democratic country in that region, they go and take out poison letters against them.
You have forgotten how this war started. Did Hamas not kidnap and kill three young teenagers for the sake of killing, and celebrated after the killing? What a travesty of justice.
I am asking all my peers who signed that poison letter against Israel to examine their motives. Can you take back the fire of anti-Semitism that is raging all over the world now?
You have been able to become famous and have all your monetary gains because you are in a democratic country: America. Do you think you would have been able to accomplish this in Iran, Syria, Lebanon, et cetera? You had a great responsibility to use your celebrity for good. Instead, you have defamed the only democratic country of goodwill in the Middle East: Israel.
You should hang your heads in shame. You should all come forth with deep regrets for what you did, and ask forgiveness from the suffering people in Israel.
...like these are proper news outlets who give unbiased facts?
...but when asked they say "I have nothing against Jews" or "I have a lot of Jewish friends".
She's a conspiracy nut stoner whose logic facilities don't work quite right. I think I'd take what she says with a pinch of salt if I were you.
What is it with people posting stuff like RT and The Young Turks on here like these are proper news outlets who give unbiased facts? These are like comic strips for little kids to be spoon fed other peoples opinions dressed up as news. A bit like Fox News, but for people with an even shorter attention span.
Well, that's because they're not a country. they know that under the international law if they were a country they would get wiped out,
Take care all, no hard feeling ofc![]()
Abby Martin is a "journalist" on RT, so right there her credibility is out the window.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing it.
Rough Stuff. Serious Issue. And so much more we don't know. Learned much from the video and the input, for what it's worth, here.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing it.
I speak farsi too, and I can say with confidence you are the biggest dipshit in this thread. You have reached unparalleled levels of imbecility with your moronic responses, and it seems you use your hatred of all muslims to justify occupation and wholesale slaughter of human beings. People like you are the enemy of objective and rational thinking.abby martin? the propagandist for putin? this al quida cunt blames 9-11 on us.. hates israel with a passion..
i listened to the link.. that bitch actually tried to translate what the president of iran said several years ago. saying that he actually didnt call for wiping out israel.. i fucken speak farsi THAT IS EXACTLY what he said.. i love how this bitch has enough balls that she translates a langauge she doesnt even speak and sais NO NO thats not what the terrorist leader of iran said.. what he meant to say was this..
this bitch is now a spokesperson for the mullahs saying how they dont want to destroy israel.. how the fuck can any of you take her serously is beyond me.. no wonder israel has to fight an uphill battle.. the poeple who hate israel are the same assholes who listen to this al quida wanna be bitch.
I speak farsi too, and I can say with confidence you are the biggest dipshit in this thread. You have reached unparalleled levels of imbecility with your moronic responses, and it seems you use your hatred of all muslims to justify occupation and wholesale slaughter of human beings. People like you are the enemy of objective and rational thinking.
As for Ahmadinejad's comments, are you sure you heard the original? He did not call for the genocide or destruction of the Israel. This is the real translation:
"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
He was of course referencing a speech made by the late ayatollah. There's a huge difference between this and what the media made him out to say. But alas, this is a seperate issue altogether and as I said before, you keep mixing these different issues in the region and using it to justify the killing of innocent people. You are so typical of the average idiot that listens to CNN and Fox.
Tony, you don't realize that we were attacked on 9/11 due to blowback? You don't seriously think we were attacked for "our freedoms" do you?
I don't know shit about RT (or that chick), but I'm curious to hear who are these "proper news outlets who give unbiased facts" you allude to. Links please.
You do know that people can hate the actions of a country without hating the citizens of that country, right?
I'm a citizen of the US, yet I despise much of the foreign policy of the US Government. So...I must be anti-American and hate Americans? lolwut?
You guys gotta quit with calling people Anti-Semites anytime the actions of the Israeli government is criticized, or you'll never be taken seriously.