Massive shooting in Colorado during The Dark Knight, 14 dead
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You know what? You're right. I apologize for the wording in my previous posts.
My only thought, which I was trying to present was this: I don't live in the United States, therefore how your nation is governed, and what laws you do or do not have are of no concern to me. You can be as pro or anti gun as you wish. I was only trying to paint an alternate picture to what many of the pro-gun members think.
I think the situation was ripe for confusion, and that people might begin shooting anyone the see with a gun drawn.
Again, to the Americans out there reading, sorry for my poor choice of words.
I don't know. I think being able to meet politicians and actually ask them questions that aren't pre-canned is pretty great.
Stephen Fry in America - episode 1 - New World - YouTube
The argument isn't pro gun. The argument is self defense.
Also, didn't we just have a big shoot up in your area recently? How is gun control working for Canadians?
I don't think this guy's been to sleep in a while:
I don't get why he dyed his hair red and why everyone on the radio seems to be saying he did it to look like the joker... his hair is green. Kid couldn't even get that right.
The arguement isn't about pro gun or self defense. The arguement is about why people completely rule out that, given the circumstances of the situation, an armed public may have caused more harm than good.
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Usually, they off their subjects.
The argument isn't about pro gun or self defense. The arguement is about why my dick is bigger than yours because i did at semester at ITT and i know everything.
I think it should work like this. Overall, gun ownership should be fine, but there should be some extreme draconian laws against using them. That way we can have them for the last resort protection, but not have the feeling that it's okay to use them for almost any other reason than that.
Now I think that in places like New York City, it's fine to have gun control where the populace is so large. And yes, there is a correlation between more gun control and less gun crime.
Now I think that in places like New York City, it's fine to have gun control where the populace is so large. And yes, there is a correlation between more gun control and less gun crime.
For one, because this is neither a military operation in which combatants might be identified by Uniforms, weapons, etc.. Nor is it a FPS, where the GUI does the identification for you.
In a dark theater, smoke grenades going up, people screaming and running every which way, militant gunmen wearing civilian clothes drawing pistols would just add to the death toll.
when the forces the militia or armed civilians are defending against are easily identifiable, a gun in trained hands MIGHT better the situation. when this is not the case, such as in a terrorist attack or a rampage with an unidentified number of killers, guns will just make things worse.
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Not necessarily true. In states like New York where there are strict gun controls, gun crime is up, while in states with liberal carry and conceal laws, gun crime is down. An armed society tends to be a polite society as they say.
There are so many other social economical factors to take into consideration when talking about crime than just "gun control". It's far too simplistic to equate guns with more crime without looking at the bigger picture.
Wouldn't it have been pretty easy to spot James in that theater when he was firing a semi-automatic, round after round with the light emitting from the weapon, especially if you were seated in a row closer to him?
I know people are fucking stupid, but I don't think they're stupid enough to confuse call of duty FPS with reality; and not resort to mindless and aimless spray and pray tactics.
Exactly. That's not freedom in my book.
It won't be the tsa, but some new bs citizen control group under dhs. They will give it some classic orwellian doublespeak name like 'Freedom Agency' or 'Citizen Freedom Agency.'
The sheeple will accept it with the normal extreme apathy while fighting for their second amendment rights.
Soon the common citizens will all be terrorists, and have to prove they are not in order to buy gas, go to the supermarket, go to the theater, fly or travel. Meanwhile the idiots will go on spouting about how free America is and how it's the greatest country in the world.
Interesting thing to note. While people may have managed to ID him in the theatre, reports are suggesting that he almost slipped away from the whole ordeal entirely because he looked convincingly similar to the response team that arrived at the theatre. In an article I read, a responder said that he looked like "one of them" and that it wasn't until he looked really closely at him that he notice that he was sweating and worked up, and realized that he was the gunman.
Now imagine he did slip away, and an armed officer went in to the theatre? Now you could have an armed movie goer opening fire on a police officer.
Not good.
We can play the what-if game all day long.
The truth is, people died and no one could stop it because they weren't sufficiently equipped to resist.
So the next massacre, the same thing will happen, because again, people will not be equipped to defend themselves.
Each time, some mook will call for tighter gun controls, when it seems to me, the gun controls are working perfectly because each time the victims are disarmed.