Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight

[kingofsp]

I find it weird thinking about these kinds of things. It must be pretty chilling to be on a flight at 35,000 feet, plane fall apart and you get free from the plane (alive). You'd acknowledge you were going to die, then black out, and likely come back into consciousness at about 10-15,000 feet to fall to your inevitable death over a couple of minutes. It must be horrendous. I wonder how many people come to terms with it / accept it during their fall.

Precisely why I hate flying. What a terrible way to die. And my friends are always all like "so what, you're going to die anyway?" Well by that logic I might as well just go become a gay prostitute because after all I'm going to die anyway.

Not to mention one of my buddies who flies all the time for business was actually in Malaysia at that time and left on the same day (US bound) and two dudes he knew from the conference he was at ended up on that missing plane. So now I'm all like SEE BRO.

 

[thehobbster]

I'm trying to tell you guys:

 

[SkyFire]

That can work well if it is your plane and you want to fly "under the radar".
To the best of my knowledge, you can't fly "under GPS".

Big planes can't really land at secret locations, they need a crapload of runway to get wheels on the ground and slow down. Big runways mean a big footprint on satellite images.

Unless you are lukep.

Then, all sorts of magical and mysterious things can happen which have no connection to reality.

I don't think you understand GPS. It's one way.

GPS devices you signals form satellites to pin point their location using triangulation (or better when possible). There is no communication, at all, with a GPS satellite from a GPS device.

 

[_poto_]

If there was an explosion at high altitude you get some explosive decompression, passengers get sucked out of the plane and the sudden change in pressure/oxygen ratio can cause blackouts. Possible pilot/co-pilot could have been sucked out or blacked out from something like that.

If a wing or tail section came off and they started to roll/spin and dive unexpectedly, the G forces can cause blackouts. Also, if the pilot/co-pilot weren't strapped in and you start a spin or roll, they could have been tossed around the cockpit like rag-dolls.

It's possible that an explosion or catastrophic system failure alone could cause the whole electrical system to go out, which means no radio.

I know these planes are designed to take lightning strikes, but there's always a remote chance of a bad strike seriously fucking up a plane. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible that a bad lightning strike couldn't have knocked out the radio.

As for debris... the ocean is a huge place. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

 

[IceToEskimos]

I might as well just go become a gay prostitute

sigged.

 

[greenleaves]

Good live blog:

Malaysia Airlines: object found by Vietnam navy thought to be part of missing plane - live | World news | theguardian.com


What does the non plebeian society of WF think of this event? Where's the plane? What happened to it?

What I think? I think this is not a normal incident. Power plays didn't necessarily cause the crash, but were involved in the passengers/flight.

Therefore, there is no way of ever knowing with any degree of certainty what happened. All we can know is that since this seems to involved power players, we will never know the full version, and any official version will likely have plenty of plot holes and therefore rightfully create suspicion in the minds of politically active thinkers. It will create a divide and conquer effect. Some people will think the official story should not be challenged. Some will think that the official story is to say the least, not complete. Within this group there will be moderates, who just doubt the official line, and hard liners. Within the hard liners there will be a large majority who will find the need to create a plausible story, they will create one, then attach it to their ego. Then their theory will become the immutable truth in their world vision. These hardliners will then be used by the believers to brand all doubters as non-reasonable.

I'll likely be in the moderate doubter group. Even if there is strong evidence of a conspiracy, maybe that could be a conspiracy to offset another reality. The world of power is full of smoke and mirrors. You can't know what is going 100%, but when you smell smoke you know something is cooking.

 

[rusvik]

I'm trying to tell you guys:

I wonder how many gets that reference.

 

[EricVonDoobie]

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[Roden]

I find it weird thinking about these kinds of things. It must be pretty chilling to be on a flight at 35,000 feet, plane fall apart and you get free from the plane (alive). You'd acknowledge you were going to die, then black out, and likely come back into consciousness at about 10-15,000 feet to fall to your inevitable death over a couple of minutes. It must be horrendous. I wonder how many people come to terms with it / accept it during their fall.

Yep, it's a rough way to go. I'm not sure which way would be "easier", something similar to MH370 where its quite fast or something like JAL123 with the plane zooming around randomly for 30 minutes where you know what will happen and have a chance to write farewells, take photos etc.

Though at least when it's over land you have a chance to survive if you're falling free fall.. especially if you position your body correctly and have a chair or something near you. Land on thick bushes or a tree and you might get lucky.

This whole thing is why my number 1 rule on flights is to indulge in the free alcohol. I'm not sure about Malaysia Airlines but Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific are usually quite liberal with it.

 

[I_like_cock]

Yep, it's a rough way to go. I'm not sure which way would be "easier", something similar to MH370 where its quite fast or something like JAL123 with the plane zooming around randomly for 30 minutes where you know what will happen and have a chance to write farewells, take photos etc.

Though at least when it's over land you have a chance to survive if you're falling free fall.. especially if you position your body correctly and have a chair or something near you. Land on thick bushes or a tree and you might get lucky.

This whole thing is why my number 1 rule on flights is to indulge in the free alcohol. I'm not sure about Malaysia Airlines but Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific are usually quite liberal with it.

Amazing 1st post!

BRAVO!

 

[avatar33]

Precisely why I hate flying. What a terrible way to die. And my friends are always all like "so what, you're going to die anyway?" Well by that logic I might as well just go become a gay prostitute because after all I'm going to die anyway.

Not to mention one of my buddies who flies all the time for business was actually in Malaysia at that time and left on the same day (US bound) and two dudes he knew from the conference he was at ended up on that missing plane. So now I'm all like SEE BRO.

A lot of us are afraid of flying, especially over the sea when you know that emergency landing is NOT an option. The problem is do you really want to live your whole life on one continent because you were too afraid to hop on a plane? Get your doctor to prescribe you some good chill pills and take the damn plane. There is a beautiful world out there.

 

[greenleaves]

Yep, it's a rough way to go. I'm not sure which way would be "easier", something similar to MH370 where its quite fast or something like JAL123 with the plane zooming around randomly for 30 minutes where you know what will happen and have a chance to write farewells, take photos etc.

Though at least when it's over land you have a chance to survive if you're falling free fall.. especially if you position your body correctly and have a chair or something near you. Land on thick bushes or a tree and you might get lucky.

This whole thing is why my number 1 rule on flights is to indulge in the free alcohol. I'm not sure about Malaysia Airlines but Thai Airways and Cathay Pacific are usually quite liberal with it.

I actually like flying because of the way you could die if anything goes wrong.

If I'm in my car if something goes wrong, I might just get crushed and stuck alive, dying, agonizing for a half a day or longer while trapped.

If I'm in a plane, if something goes wrong I die fast.

You can die any moment. But a sure fast death as the virtually only possible consequence of things going wrong... that sounds pretty good.

Most things that can go wrong and fuck you up have a strong % of slow, painful, and prolonged agony.

 

[Kiopa_Matt]

If I'm in a plane, if something goes wrong I die fast.

You can die any moment. But a sure fast death as the virtually only possible consequence of things going wrong... that sounds pretty good.

Most things that can go wrong and fuck you up have a strong % of slow, painful, and prolonged agony.

^^ This. It's actually my dream way to die. If I find out I have cancer or something, I'm not going to wait around for months / years while it painfully eats my internal organs. I'd prefer to just rent a Cesana, take one last scenic trip of this beautiful planet, then crash the thing head first into a mountain side.

 

[greenleaves]

^^ This. It's actually my dream way to die. If I find out I have cancer or something, I'm not going to wait around for months / years while it painfully eats my internal organs. I'd prefer to just rent a Cesana, take one last scenic trip of this beautiful planet, then crash the thing head first into a mountain side.

Too much risk of not dying right away.

I'd prefer to go parachuting and then just not pull the string... or a 9mm to the head.

 

[avatar33]

^You guys are aware that you can survive cancer right? lol

Also, any of you thought of lethal injection, drug overdose or anything that can make you go nice and smooth? Jesus, 9mm to the head, crash a cesna in the mountain... that doesn't sound nice to me at all.

 

[mituozo]

I actually like flying because of the way you could die if anything goes wrong.

If I'm in my car if something goes wrong, I might just get crushed and stuck alive, dying, agonizing for a half a day or longer while trapped.

If I'm in a plane, if something goes wrong I die fast.

You can die any moment. But a sure fast death as the virtually only possible consequence of things going wrong... that sounds pretty good.

Most things that can go wrong and fuck you up have a strong % of slow, painful, and prolonged agony.

Who says you're not blinded during the crash, and then fall to your death with screaming all around you, understanding you're blind and having no idea what's going on? Or you're strapped into your seat, survive, and have your decapitated family to the left of you strapped in, that were hit by something?

If a plane comes apart in the sky, there's a pretty decent chance you survive for a good few minutes with some nasty injury, and see a hell of a lot of grim stuff around you.

Whilst it's not like cancer, at least with cancer you have access to pain meds, and have longer to come to terms with it and get your affairs in order. A few minutes of hell, potentially immense pain, seeing other people killed in front of your eyes etc is a pretty brutal way to go out.

Heart attacks, massive strokes, devastating impacts etc are probably the best way to go out, but I don't think it's fair to say any of them don't come with a risk of surviving permanently debilitated.

 

[greenleaves]

Who says you're not blinded during the crash, and then fall to your death with screaming all around you, understanding you're blind and having no idea what's going on? Or you're strapped into your seat, survive, and have your decapitated family to the left of you strapped in, that were hit by something?

If a plane comes apart in the sky, there's a pretty decent chance you survive for a good few minutes with some nasty injury, and see a hell of a lot of grim stuff around you.

Whilst it's not like cancer, at least with cancer you have access to pain meds, and have longer to come to terms with it and get your affairs in order. A few minutes of hell, potentially immense pain, seeing other people killed in front of your eyes etc is a pretty brutal way to go out.

Heart attacks, massive strokes, devastating impacts etc are probably the best way to go out, but I don't think it's fair to say any of them don't come with a risk of surviving permanently debilitated.

I know someone who was trapped in a car crash. She lasted 12 hours or so trapped. She died shortly after.

For me; 5 > 720 minutes (and it can be way, way, way longer)

 

[Roden]

I actually like flying because of the way you could die if anything goes wrong.

If I'm in my car if something goes wrong, I might just get crushed and stuck alive, dying, agonizing for a half a day or longer while trapped.

If I'm in a plane, if something goes wrong I die fast.

You can die any moment. But a sure fast death as the virtually only possible consequence of things going wrong... that sounds pretty good.

Most things that can go wrong and fuck you up have a strong % of slow, painful, and prolonged agony.

I sort of understand where your coming from. Like the Space Cowboy in Battle Beyond the Stars, when your ship is about to crash and the end is nigh, just put your feet up and play the harmonica. That's how I want to go out, like a boss. Plus he also has a belt that dispenses scotch and soda, which is also handy given the situation.

 

[Kiopa_Matt]

Also, any of you thought of lethal injection, drug overdose or anything that can make you go nice and smooth?

Lethal injection, sure, except two things -- a) tough to get access to the needed drugs, and b) you need help doing it, and having a "will you help me commit suicide?" conversation with someone would be quite awkward.

Drug overdose I wouldn't really chance, unless I can get the restricted stuff. Trying to pop a bunch of powerful sleeping pills has a lot of room for error.

Jesus, 9mm to the head, crash a cesna in the mountain... that doesn't sound nice to me at all.

Not really. Quick and easy at least. I like the idea of skydiving without a parachute though. Well, unless you can do Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible maneuvers while free falling thousands of feet, and can grab on to a plane seat to safely guide you in as a cushion when you land.

The worst would probably be drowning, burning, or quick sand though.

Well, this has been quite morbid.

 

[jstover77]

Who says you're not blinded during the crash, and then fall to your death with screaming all around you, understanding you're blind and having no idea what's going on? Or you're strapped into your seat, survive, and have your decapitated family to the left of you strapped in, that were hit by something?

Man, that's some Final Destination shit right there.

I used hate flying. I was a nervous wreck. After talking to a couple pilots, I realized the chances of dying in a plane crash are slim to none. You have a better chance at winning the lottery. I'm almost always loaded when I fly anyways, so I am sure it would make the process a lot easier to handle.

As far as a way to go, I don't think many people would have the balls not to pull the cord on their parachute. Self preservation is a powerful behavior. That and imagining what your face is going to look like when hitting the ground at 100 mph.

Back to watching plane crash videos on Youtube.