More taxes coming? You betcha...



we need to force these idiots on captial hill that they can't just come taxing the people when they can't fix shit. I hope theres a movement soon that just sweeps the nation where everyone either agrees to pay a certain % and no more or just stops paying taxes entirely.

even if it means the rebuilding of our government then so be it because this will just end in a bigger fail if we keep prolonging it anyway.
 
Well sure that's kind of the idea ... there are 195 other countries on earth ... I could quite happily spend the rest of my life in these other countries and never return to the US.

Even if you did pay taxes for 10 years after you left, you'd still be better off financially 10 years from now.
 
In before the next UK/Eurotrash member defends paying high taxes 'for the public good'.

It's hard to define the big expenses as being for the public good. I'm happy to pay for healthcare, policing, education but that's small change compared to bailing out the banks and killing muslims.

Military cuts would make a massive difference to national debt (in UK & US) without raising taxes but it's not hard, even in a recession, for the politicians to convince the dumb people that they need to keep spending on the military to keep them safe.
 
High tax bracket (~avg 35% income tax) + 15% self employment tax + 10% CA state tax + 12.50% Los Angeles sales tax = 62 mothafuckin percent is what I'm paying. I'm reading Atlas Shrugged, and if anyone's read that book so many things are similar with it it's making my head spin.

Yikes, you need a new accountant ;)
 
Wanna know how to slow spending..

STOP FINANCING THESE STUPID GODDAMNED WARS that are based on false flag terror. When the real reason the troops have been deployed is not to protect us from some bearded fuck-head that is hiding in a cave, but to protect the opium crops in Afghanistan and keep the money coming in from the drug trade. I'm sure most of our troops - God love them, are there because they have been given orders and a story for why they are there. I appreciate their valor and courage to be in harms way, but it's so sad that they have to be there to run the gov's agenda.

STOP Researching the mating patterns of Fruit Flies

STOP Buying gold toilet seats

STOP overspending on shit that does nothing to create jobs.

REDUCE the amount of money and benefits paid to politicians. Those assholes do not deserve the amount of money they make. They are a drag on society (as stated by Guerilla).

Want to see real change - put some regular folks in congress and senate that don't get exorbitant and lavish lifestyles. put some people in there that don't gorge on caviar or take their families on fine trips at the cost of the tax payers. The people that would be working there would be there for THE RIGHT REASONS.

Get that fucking douche bag bama out of the WhiteHouse

Flog all democrats
Flog all republicans

Start over....

TELL BIG BROTHER to eat a dick
 
It's hard to define the big expenses as being for the public good. I'm happy to pay for healthcare, policing, education but that's small change compared to bailing out the banks and killing muslims.
I want to point out that most people are happy to pay for health care, policing and education. The problem is, the government provides those services without competition, and without cost accountability.

It also allows for free riders, people who use those services by passing the tax bill onto the more productive members of society (this is what politicians promise when campaigning). Eventually, people who are taxed the more they produce, will do what is only rational. They will produce less and try to free ride as well. When the tax base collapses, as more people expect social entitlements, the government falls.

There is no reason why policing, education and health care cannot be provided by the market, and yield as good, if not better results than the state.
 
The sad part is most Americans pay zero income tax, that's right, zero. I think it is estimated that 40% of Americans get MORE benefits from the government than they pay. It's a depressing sight watching these libtards complain about "tax cuts for the rich" playing off people's jealousy, when the truth of the matter is the top 20% of the country pays for 80% of the taxes, and the top 1% pays for probably half of all the taxes.
 
^^ Wishes Guerilla would right a COMMON SENSE HANDBOOK for Government and it's Citizens.

( we have had our talks, but Im just saying) You have a wonderful way of explaining core concepts.
 
This country is done. I'd say it has another 10 years maybe before something drastic happens. Collapse, war, major political shift, something

As worthless as this member is, i'm gonna have to agree here.

Ten? I give it two, three.

Hey DP retard, those drastic things that you think are coming in the next 10 years already happened... in the previous 10 years:

Collapse... Financial, 2007, we're recovering
War... We've been at war since 2002 have you been asleep?
Major political shift... first black president, Dem controlled WH and Congress in 2008

If you are going to prognosticate nothing of substance go 50 years out, you won't seem like such an idiot then.

I hate to break it to you guys but odds are the United States will continue to be one of (eventually) two super powers for the majority of our lifetimes.
 
I have a friend from Monaco. She pays ZERO income tax. Too bad it's almost impossible to get citizenship.
US->Mo is a tough process, yes. And ultimately not even profitable due to US citizens being prisoners of an oppressive regime. You guys are captives of your irs.
EU->Mo is actually quite easy and could be set up in a month.

Still, the main and often only 'problem' with Monegasque citizenship is the requirement to purchase property. Dorm-style studio apartments start at $1.1 million+ ...

Monaco is impressive though. 10-20 Ferrari's/Bentleys/Lambo's stacked after eachother at traffic lights. Enzo's, Veyron's, 722S all of that passing daily. Life is good when your entire paycheck goes to no one but you :-)
Well sure that's kind of the idea ... there are 195 other countries on earth ... I could quite happily spend the rest of my life in these other countries and never return to the US.
One Interpol warrant reduces this 195 to less than 10...
 
It is remarkable that people vote with the hope of thwarting the state's relentless pursuit toward central planning. How many people on this forum - arguably, some of the best-informed folks around - continue to go to the polls and vote "their guy/gal" into office, hoping things will change?

Ron Paul aside, every politician is for expanding the state, despite what he or she claims. Every politician is for expanding the empire. Every politician will aggressively protect the state's ability to inflate the money supply and manipulate interest rates.

And of course... of course, every politician is for the collection of taxes. So what if the left wants 50% and the right wants 30%? It is akin to one thief saying he'll take your wallet, watch, and wedding ring while another argues he will only your wallet and watch.

When you voted for Obama or McCain, did you believe differently? When you voted for Bush or Gore, did you believe differently? When you go to the polls and vote in the future, will you believe that somehow, this time will be different?

We already know where this path is leading. The question is how long it takes to get there. Artificially low interest rates and continued Fed tinkering to juice the economy merely perpetuate the illusion of a solid recovery.

The only solution is to return to a system that upholds a free market, maintains a sound currency, and completely eliminates any encroachment upon private property. Given the power, money, and status available to the statists who turn their backs on such ideas, is our optimism warranted?

I understand why the free riders vote for these charlatans; they receive the confiscated loot. I do not understand why informed people vote for them. Essentially, it is a vote for less liberty.
 
It is remarkable that people vote with the hope of thwarting the state's relentless pursuit toward central planning. How many people on this forum - arguably, some of the best-informed folks around - continue to go to the polls and vote "their guy/gal" into office, hoping things will change?

Ron Paul aside, every politician is for expanding the state, despite what he or she claims. Every politician is for expanding the empire. Every politician will aggressively protect the state's ability to inflate the money supply and manipulate interest rates.

And of course... of course, every politician is for the collection of taxes. So what if the left wants 50% and the right wants 30%? It is akin to one thief saying he'll take your wallet, watch, and wedding ring while another argues he will only your wallet and watch.

When you voted for Obama or McCain, did you believe differently? When you voted for Bush or Gore, did you believe differently? When you go to the polls and vote in the future, will you believe that somehow, this time will be different?

We already know where this path is leading. The question is how long it takes to get there. Artificially low interest rates and continued Fed tinkering to juice the economy merely perpetuate the illusion of a solid recovery.

The only solution is to return to a system that upholds a free market, maintains a sound currency, and completely eliminates any encroachment upon private property. Given the power, money, and status available to the statists who turn their backs on such ideas, is our optimism warranted?

I understand why the free riders vote for these charlatans; they receive the confiscated loot. I do not understand why informed people vote for them. Essentially, it is a vote for less liberty.
Amen.
 
Ron paul was right. We are too deep in debt.

The truth is this, the income taxes dont go to help the schools, roads, ect. They go to offshore banks who want a carbon tax, and a police state grid.

The people of this country fucked up. Oprah is a huge blame too. If she went out supported ron paul we have no more welfare state, and endless wars.

Fuck oprah that dumb bitch!!!!!!!!