Muslim girl, 19, 'stoned to death after taking part in beauty contest'

What makes these kinds of incidents different from your general whacked out killing is you have a large group of people saying it was the right thing to do. It is not the killing itself that is different it is the support that you find behind the killing.
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I'm not saying I agree with there religious laws or what they do but what is the difference between them defending their ways/beliefs and Americans defending their constitutional rights to bare arms when, on average, 100,000 Americans are shot or killed every year?

Over one million people have been killed by guns in the States yet bring the issue up of gun control or removal of guns and it is a God given right to bare arms. Go figure??

Read the other posts...the story was sensationalized and completely incorrect just adding to my point.
 


learningcurve said:
Over one million people have been killed by guns in the States yet bring the issue up of gun control or removal of guns and it is a God given right to bare arms. Go figure??
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Where nearly 99% of them are from shootings where one party obtained their firearms illegally, and would still get the firearm with or without gun control, and the other party didn't posses a gun because they play by the rules.

If I want to buy a gun to defend myself because 99% of the people who have guns are criminals and will get them no mater what law is passed, I want to have that option.

It's a God Given right to be able to defend myself. Just say'n.
 
Rexibit said:
Where nearly 99% of them are from shootings where one party obtained their firearms illegally, and would still get the firearm with or without gun control, and the other party didn't posses a gun because they play by the rules.

If I want to buy a gun to defend myself because 99% of the people who have guns are criminals and will get them no mater what law is passed, I want to have that option.

It's a God Given right to be able to defend myself. Just say'n.
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Interesting take on it I guess. Look at the countries that have gun control laws and you will find that the incidence gun related crime is substantially lower. Not making it up, it's easy to find. Can, say a gun ban be enforced? Well I guess that depends on how serious your government is about stopping you from killing one another I guess.

I equate gun deaths to cancer. If there was a cure for cancer, everyone would want it. There's a cure for all the shootings but no one seems to care or even want it.

That's how it looks from the outside looking in...just sayin'
 
potentialeight said:
I have to wonder about this one from time to time myself. If people will use something as dumb and thin as religion as reasoning to do terrible shit to people, I'm sure they would find some other weak-ass reason if religion was out of the picture.
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learningcurve said:
I'm not saying I agree with there religious laws or what they do but what is the difference between them defending their ways/beliefs and Americans defending their constitutional rights to bare arms when, on average, 100,000 Americans are shot or killed every year?

Over one million people have been killed by guns in the States yet bring the issue up of gun control or removal of guns and it is a God given right to bare arms. Go figure??

Read the other posts...the story was sensationalized and completely incorrect just adding to my point.
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Because banning guns would prevent all those deaths! You're logic with that argument is flawed. Please find a better one.
 
I hate guns, almost as much as I hate religion. Religion should be abolished, then maybe people will start thinking rationally.

In the case of the 19 year old Muslim girl, she liked wearing nice clothes, and a few teenagers took it upon themselves to brutally murder her, justifying it with their religion. How fucked is that?
 
You should investigate more about the news you put on your website, because Katya Koren is actually a 19 year-old Christian woman originally from Russia, who had been missing in Sovyetskiy-Crimea for a week according to Crimean Tatar responsibles. The murder was not committed because of any religious reason, whether Islam or Christianity, but after sexual harrasment by Bilal Gaziyev, 16, a Crimean Tatar. I wonder what's the problem with putting religion in everything and provoking people. It is a shame that we can't even trust the news we read.
- Almira Pérez, United Kingdom, 01/6/2011 10:35

Read more: Conflicting Reports Over Death Of Katya Koren, 19-Year-Old Muslim Beauty Queen, Emerge


What does this make you people commenting negatively about a religion, without even doing 5 minutes research?

I have found sheep that made smarter comments in the form of bleh blaat and blew blew

EDIT: she is Hawt! ^_^ too bad : (
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ARVolund said:
The problem the Muslims have is they have let their religion be taken over and be represented by a bunch of wack jobs. Are most Muslims fundamentalist crazies? Probably not, but you see very few "moderate Muslims" taking a loud and public stand against the crazies and the violence.

There are a lot of crazy Christians as well but when you get a small group "those nuts in Kansas' or an individual that goes off the reservation the mainstream Christians come out against whatever crazy crap they are doing.

You do not see that with the Muslims so the crazies are the ones that take center stage and end up representing Islam to the rest of the world.
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Guess I'll link to this again.


I personally haven't noticed any Christians taking a "loud and public stand" against the Lord's Resistance Army, but that doesn't mean they haven't or that they support them.


The rebel Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) continues to kill civilians and abduct children in remote regions of central Africa at an alarming rate with no end in sight.

Uganda: No End to LRA Killings And Abductions
 
ARVolund said:
What makes these kinds of incidents different from your general whacked out killing is you have a large group of people saying it was the right thing to do.
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This article tries to turn it into that, and it's easy to think that without actually reading all the details, but the truth of the matter is that three idiot teenagers killed her while *possibly* claiming that it had to do with religion. I mean, one of the kids was 16. She hadn't done anything that was punishable by death under Sharia Law. Think of how many people do something stupid and then back it up with religion when their religion doesn't even say they should do it. Same shit here.
 
I really wanted to throw in a sarcastic comment here but then I noticed that google actually crawls STS so I'm just saying: nothing.
 
Moxie said:
I personally haven't noticed any Christians taking a "loud and public stand" against the Lord's Resistance Army, but that doesn't mean they haven't or that they support them.


The rebel Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) continues to kill civilians and abduct children in remote regions of central Africa at an alarming rate with no end in sight.

Uganda: No End to LRA Killings And Abductions
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You probably haven't noticed any crowds of Christians on the streets of New York or London supporting them either.
 
learningcurve said:
You want ultra violent and barbaric, start with South Africa, Central America, and South America, with homicide rates of 37.3% 29.3% and 25.9% per 100,000 inhabitants. Still I don't see anyone posting here about some of the horrific natures of these particular murders. Main stream media also avoids it as well. Why...because they have their favorite punching bag and it comes in the form of a religion.
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37.3% per 100k? That would mean there would be 18.5 million (out of 50) that are murdered each year in South Africa alone. They must have a massive birth rate!
 
DreamMachine said:
37.3% per 100k? That would mean there would be 18.5 million (out of 50) that are murdered each year in South Africa alone. They must have a massive birth rate!
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Yeah...worded that badly, I admit. Of all deaths 37.3% are intentional homicides (per 100,000). This may can include infanticide, assisted suicide and euthanasia.

If you want more reading and stats have a look here:

http://www.genevadeclaration.org/fileadmin/docs/Global-Burden-of-Armed-Violence-full-report.pdf

And for some lighter reading (lol)

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
"she is actually Christian with Russian roots. "The girl was not Muslim. All these [reports] are a provocation and fabricated news."

Other authorities now believe Koren may have been killed by a psychologically troubled classmate, who robbed and possibly raped her before battering her to death with a rock. "A student did it, killing his classmate," Sergei Reznikov, a senior policeman involved in the case, is quoted by the Telegraph as saying. "There is no other underlying reason, neither religious nor linked with inter-ethnic conflicts."

Conflicting Reports Over Death Of Katya Koren, 19-Year-Old 'Muslim' Beauty Queen, Emerge
 
Those countries are all in states of political and social upheaval and revolt.

lol.
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Don't see the humour in it tbh. I'll put it into perspective for you then. Since the war on terror, the "official" death toll for American forces in both Afghanistan and Iraq totaled 4,683, as of August 2 last year.

Lets just pick a random year here...2006 will do. That year alone, there were 30,896 gun related deaths of which 12,791 were homicide in the States. That's one year when compared to seven and a bit for the war on terror.

On average it's around 11,000 gun related homicides per year in the States.

Between (1948-2009) the conflict between Palestine and Israel, the conflict has officially claimed 14,500 casualties. Fuck!!! The States does that almost yearly.

So yes...despite the fucking shit that goes on in those countries you mentioned, you are more likely to fucking shot and killed in America.

Fucking lol at that.
 
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