my first scrubbing experience. not happy, but hey.. what can you do?



Hey I'm really sorry dude I didnt want to make you feel bad or whatever. Thank you for calling me a pussy it is helping my recovery from alcoholism that much easier.

Oh.. you're looking for pity now.. I see.. classic..alcoholic..come back after you sober up.
 
From what I hear those advertisers are not in it for the 'reg path' but, rather they just need the e-mail and IP to be can-spam compliant just to appear legit and then be able to spam the fuck out of them. Of course this isn't a short-term conversion it will probably take some time of spamming to get the conversions, so in the mean-time they can scrub you whatever they want.

^ What does that mean?
 
of course they are in it for the emails. Most emails they collect are bullshit so they run backend offers to try and recover some losses. If they weren't doing it for the emails they wouldn't be asking for emails!
 
From what I hear those advertisers are not in it for the 'reg path' but, rather they just need the e-mail and IP to be can-spam compliant just to appear legit and then be able to spam the fuck out of them. Of course this isn't a short-term conversion it will probably take some time of spamming to get the conversions, so in the mean-time they can scrub you whatever they want.

^ What does that mean?

if you don't get it, this game ain't fo you.. maybe try to think about it when you're sober and come back here.
 
Ok I will go back to my island to sober up, peace!

yeah your island with just you, and nobody else since you're so much of a loser that nobody wants to be around you, you have to go dig a hole in the middle of the earth and live your anti-social life all on your own since you're too much of a loser to be accepted by normal society..
 
yeah your island with just you, and nobody else since you're so much of a loser that nobody wants to be around you, you have to go dig a hole in the middle of the earth and live your anti-social life all on your own since you're too much of a loser to be accepted by normal society..

Someones got some anger management issues... you sound like your 13 you schmuck
 
Someones got some anger management issues... you sound like your 13 you schmuck

hey,

i'm not the one that started it.. i'm just the one finishing it..

i don't have many posts here but, i've always tried to be intellectual around here. that one fuckhead started it by calling me a 'whiny bitch' so.. he started it, let's get it on.. stop trying to pussy out of the shit and saying i'm 13 now, when one of your 400+ posts homie tries to call me out.. play the game as it is, you brought it on yourself..
 
hey,

i'm not the one that started it.. i'm just the one finishing it..

i don't have many posts here but, i've always tried to be intellectual around here. that one fuckhead started it by calling me a 'whiny bitch' so.. he started it, let's get it on.. stop trying to pussy out of the shit and saying i'm 13 now, when one of your 400+ posts homie tries to call me out.. play the game as it is, you brought it on yourself..

919-8-UNREAL leave your name and number with my secretary on Tuesday and we can get this sorted out. Sleep squad, peace bro.
 
It's true about leads not backing out = increased scrub rate, but the OP said this happened over 5-6 hours, which obviously isn't enough time for people to complete a reg path and for the advertiser to try to make it profitable by scrubbing. Further, on email submits, it could take days past the lead input date for someone to complete offers, and sometimes weeks, provided the user doesn't forget.

I'm a bit confused by what you said - "5-6 hours, which obviously isn't enough time for people to complete a reg path" - are we talking about the same thing? Reg paths take less then 10 minutes or so then they hit the offer wall. When I say reg path I refer to all the free submits and mobiles offers they run you through first before getting to the final "you must complete x offers" part, which I call the offer wall.

You are completely right that people might come back and complete more offers; that however is once they get to the offer wall in the first place. If they are dropping off a few pages past the 1st page they aren't ever coming back pretty much. So it doesn't take very long or very many 1st page conversions for the system to figure out how many of the conversions are at least making it to the offer wall. You can count on the fact that if enough aren't reaching that wall the pixel will stop firing every time on the first page very quickly.
 
Sounds like you are sending some godsend traffic that the advertiser must pay every penny for. Scrubbing against bad data like duplicate emails and suppression lists is reasonable. If your targeting audience is small, it is possible to see the conversion keep decreasing. Why would the advertiser pay for the same visitor? I have ran submits for a long time and I never send the visitor to the same advertiser so my conversion rate has been steady.
 
hey,

i'm not the one that started it.. i'm just the one finishing it..

i don't have many posts here but, i've always tried to be intellectual around here. that one fuckhead started it by calling me a 'whiny bitch' so.. he started it, let's get it on.. stop trying to pussy out of the shit and saying i'm 13 now, when one of your 400+ posts homie tries to call me out.. play the game as it is, you brought it on yourself..

You intellectuals and your run on sentences.
 
hey,

i'm not the one that started it.. i'm just the one finishing it..

i don't have many posts here but, i've always tried to be intellectual around here. that one fuckhead started it by calling me a 'whiny bitch' so.. he started it, let's get it on.. stop trying to pussy out of the shit and saying i'm 13 now, when one of your 400+ posts homie tries to call me out.. play the game as it is, you brought it on yourself..

e-gangster
 
hey,

i'm not the one that started it.. i'm just the one finishing it..

i don't have many posts here but, i've always tried to be intellectual around here. that one fuckhead started it by calling me a 'whiny bitch' so.. he started it, let's get it on.. stop trying to pussy out of the shit and saying i'm 13 now, when one of your 400+ posts homie tries to call me out.. play the game as it is, you brought it on yourself..

hey,
 
Like Dully said e-mail/zip sumbits are the worst for scrubbing. There's nothing you can really do but move on to other offers, in other verticals, or keep trying to make the offer work.

...From what I hear there's quite the drama in the advertiser side of e-mail/zip submits, too. A few big lawsuits from affiliates that are looking like they'll hold up.

Best thing I can tell you is to learn from it, and not be discouraged. Everyone runs into problems with advertisers/networks. Just part of the game.


This is only true for the retards (99% of the offers) that don't know how to build a proper backend. I had HUGE volume with consistent epcs of .20 and .40 on some email submit offers.