I don't have a mom. I'm sure your mom was confused as hell though since they only let her vote once...
My Mom Won't Vote for Ron Paul because...
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I don't have a mom. I'm sure your mom was confused as hell though since they only let her vote once...
What state does she live in? If she's not in a swing state her vote for President really won't matter anyway. Maybe in the primary...
New York. So yes her vote doesn't exactly matter but you can't fucking look at it from that perspective.
RP's campaign transcends political parties, that's what makes it so attractive. If the goal is to convince independent/swing voters to hit up Ron Paul...you're failing. The goal should be to hit the mindset of the typical party voter, and RP is great because he can connect with both parties.
wut? So you're saying if a person doesn't follow the teachings of say, Deuteronomy, then they shouldn't call themselves a Christian/Jew?
Let's see:
1. Gay people should be killed.
2. If a man says his new wife isn't a virgin, unless she can prove it, she should be killed.
3. Rebellious children should be stoned to death.
4. If you live with your brother, and his wife dies, you need to marry her.
5. Family member tries to get you to join another religion? You need to personally stone them to death.
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Statistically, the chances of a single vote influencing the election of a President is about 1 in 13 billion. (Read this somewhere)
No offense to your mom, but if you're working on converting her, don't do it for her vote. Do it because you really believe it will make her life better.
Ron Paul is one election. The ideas he is talking about have lasted lifetimes.
You're 100% right, and MANY people I know are starting to understand this.
For many years now, we've had to pick between the lesser of two evils in elections. Because of that, we've got to a point to where we are in a state of extremely rapid decline. If the average person continues to pick candidates based on 'electability' or the lesser of two evils, we will find ourselves in the same place Yugoslovia did in the early 90s.
I'm educating people the best I can, not because I want them to specifically vote for RP, but to help them understand why we're at this point in history and what faces us in the future.
It is "just" a theory, like gravity is also just a theory. I don't think *you* understand the nature of scientific theory, read the quote he said in that picture.
Yeah I tend to agree because it's more of campaign to awaken voters rather than just to elect one guy.
This x 100000
Also, people have to realize that Ron Paul coming to power will not miraculously fix problems over night.
Just imagine if a few million government workers will lose their jobs in a short time, unemployment is likely to rise. 1 trillion dollar cuts are also likely not to be enough, but it's a step in a right direction.
Ron Paul is important not for just America, but for the world. Without America in their full control elite/bankers/NWO/illuminati will be greatly weakened. Income tax, fractional reserve banking bullshit has gotta stop.
I truly believe that in a proper capitalism/fair system an average worker would make a salary that most people on this forum would consider balling. Something like 200-300k in todays money.
Whatever happens, wheather RP wins or not, people are getting informed and getting really hooked to ideas of real liberty and freedom, this snowball is not going to stop.
Doesn't matter if you are an atheist or theist or a spiritual person, it is obvious that universe/God/consciousness has created us to be free. Artificial societies where people are not free is like going against the flow of the Universe and it doesn't work. We should try not argue about things that divide us, but emphasize the basic truth that bring us together. After all we are all just struggling together on this Earth, trying to make the best out of it.
Shoot, I went way off topic lol. Just spilling out my random thoughts. I am not even American...
LOL maybe he should just start handing out cash like Romney:
Romney gives cash to struggling supporter at rally – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Romney gives cash to struggling supporter at rally – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
I mean "Just a theory" in the terms that people who don't understand what scientific "theory" means and they think it means the same as a theory in every day speak, which is the argument most creationists give (i.e. their theory is just as valid as the theory of evolution as they are both just theories). The theory of gravity does not hold the same meaning as say the theory that we all descended from aliens if it did I would love to see how the world would look today.
I do understand the nature of scientific theory as I studied physics at uni.
Except the aliens one isn't a theory, it's a hypothesis. I understand it quite well too, I was getting a PhD in physics before going full time at this.
Yes, but that is the point I am trying to make, that this is the error a lot of people make, they think that any hypothesis they care to come up with is a theory and can be compared to scientific theory. It is one of the most common arguments that Hitchens and Dawkins encountered.
Well done on the PhD, I didn't last long enough for that. Let's conclude that we both understand what scientific theory is and that a lot of people do not and mix it up with hypothesis.
Um I think we may be siblings.:uhoh2:
Edit: Haven't read the rest of the thread but you've got to be smart with these people and appeal to the things that do matter to her: He's a christian and he's against abortion (nevermind that he would never do a federal ban on it, no need to shoot yourself in the foot) and with my mom it goes further so I also told her he's anti lobbying (she hates lobbyists more than democrats) and that he's big on national defense (again never mind that it's for keeping our troops in our own country,guarding the homefront and actually living up to the word "defense")...My mom actually said well if all that's true, I'll vote for him. After this conversation I sent her a bunch of really awesome videos to seal the deal.
we will probably be on the sidelines until the people that grew up on what they were force fed by the media via TV are gone. i am astonished by the propaganda i hear mainstream republicans spew. look at how the establishment took over and silenced the tea party. anyone hear them screaming about the GOP choosing between a bunch of progressive NWO stooges from the same ilk that robbed us blind?
i think a lot of the progress is because of the internet and you see msm losing grasp on minds of men. of course, they want to criminalize putting a youtube clip of foxnews lying about ron paul for a reason. if they get away with it, we are back where we started from.
rand paul is better than his dad on foreign policy. he understands how to frame it where it speaks to GOP voters. but that can always be a problem when you are a statesman and not a politician. with the way ron paul shat the bed on bin laden on monday night, who can blame your mom for being turned off?
ron paul should start every foreign policy answer with how he will not hesitate to defend the US. the msm tees up these questions for paul and he answers them like there are no real threats out there. even if that's not what he means, its what people hear in these sound bites.
i think a lot of the progress is because of the internet and you see msm losing grasp on minds of men. of course, they want to criminalize putting a youtube clip of foxnews lying about ron paul for a reason. if they get away with it, we are back where we started from.
rand paul is better than his dad on foreign policy. he understands how to frame it where it speaks to GOP voters. but that can always be a problem when you are a statesman and not a politician. with the way ron paul shat the bed on bin laden on monday night, who can blame your mom for being turned off?
ron paul should start every foreign policy answer with how he will not hesitate to defend the US. the msm tees up these questions for paul and he answers them like there are no real threats out there. even if that's not what he means, its what people hear in these sound bites.