NFC & AFC Championships - Predictions Here

nvanprooyen

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All right, here we go. Two great games on tap this weekend. Make your predictions and post the smack talk that is inevitably going to follow me making this thread.

Here are mine...

Steelers - 24
Jets - 13

Bears - 20
Packers - 17
 


Steelers over Jets, I've left my lengthy reasoning in other threads.

And for the main event:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvY2LNjkIh0]YouTube - The Bears Still Suck[/ame]

Packers: 24
Bears: 3

Cutler throws 2 picks and get's sacked 6 times.
 
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And the almighty media darling Rodgers has managed to put up how many points on us this year? Look, he's a damn good QB. I'm not denying that. Go ahead and keep doubting Cutler. Dude was behind the worst offensive line in the league, got sacked 50+ times, working with inexperienced receivers in a brand new system that's complicated as fuck...and he still managed to have a pretty damn good year.

The last time we played, we ran the ball 15 times. 15 times. Forte was averaging 6 a carry or something and for some reason we went away from it and returned to the seven stop drop shit that gets Cutler killed. No idea why, but I don't expect that to happen this weekend again. Even with all that, we lost by 7 on the road in a game you guys desperately needed to win.

It would be foolish to think that this game is going to be a blowout either way. It's going to come right down to the end in my opinion. Special teams could be the deciding factor....and if it is, I like our chances.

This is going to be a great one and I can't wait.
 
Here are the simple facts fuck stick, I really didn't want to waste my time writing this but so be it.

Let's start by talking team vs team:
Regular Season Standings (Offense):
Packers
Points Scored: 24.2 avg (10th)
Yards: 358.1 avg (9th)
Pass Yrds: 257.8 avg (5th)
Rush Yrds: 100.4 (24th) And we don't have a running game

Bears
Points Scored: 20.9 avg (21st)
Yards: 289.4 avg (30th)
Pass Yrds: 188.4 avg (28th) Go Cutler go!
Rush Yrds: 101.0 (22nd) Which you didn't beat us in until the last game of the season

Regular Season Standings (Defense):
Packers
Points Scored: 15 avg (2nd)
Yards: 309.1 avg (5th)
Pass Yrds: 194.2 avg (5th)
Rush Yrds: 114.9 (18th)

Bears
Points Scored: 17.9 avg (4th)
Yards: 314.3 avg (9th)
Pass Yrds: 224.2 avg (20th)
Rush Yrds: 90.1 (2nd) Good thing we don't depend on our run game to win games

Without really diving hard into the stats, because that's going to take forever I'll touch on the generics.

The Packers (regular season) had more total First Downs (312 vs 263), converted better on Third Down (41.4% vs 32.8%), had more Total Offensive Yards (5730 vs 4631), had more Sacks (47 vs 34), controlled the clock better (32:01 vs 29:30), and had a better Turnover Differential (+10 vs +4).

Now let's talk QB's because for some reason or another people are ready to somewhat crown Cutlers ass, for no apparent reason. HE STILL SUCKS ASS.

Cutler (regular season) 23 TD's 16 INT's 86.3 QB rating (ranked 16th). 5 games where he failed to throw a TD (33.3% 5/15) one of which was against the last game against the Packers. I think one of those in fairness was when he got knocked out with a concussion. He also had 1 rushing TD, so for him to have 2 in the playoffs against a awful Seahawks team that shouldn't have been there in the first place doesn't speak volumes about him as a runner. I still find it hilarious the game against WAS where he threw 4 picks to the SAME guy, then in his presser after says that he'd keep throwing it his way every time. The dude is straight LO Fucking L.

Rodgers (regular season) 28 TD's 11 INT 101.2 (ranked 3rd ). 2 games where he failed to throw a TD, one was when he got knocked out with a concussion against Detroit. 4 rushing TD's and is ranked #2 in the league for running as a QB only behind Vick. Although it's hard to really quantify post season stats VS Cutler because the Bears haven't played anyone that you could quantify his results from, Rodgers has 6 passing TD's and one Rushing TD.

The Packers are red hot. Having won their last 4 games all MUST WIN. They are dialed in and blew out 2 good teams in those 4 games when it mattered the most. James Starks bring a much need run balance. Awesome against the Eagles and meraly OK against Atlanta, but why run it when you can carve up the secondary? The Packers can attack any part of the field, and have the ability to go for the long ball consistently. They constantly try to run only to setup play action. Every one of the six losses this season where decided by 4 points or less and they can hang with anyone. They play a heavily mixed up 3-4 scheme on defense and can blitz from anywhere. Clay Mathews has become such a threat that defenses are constantly too worried about him and someone else comes in and gets the sack.

The Bears snuck into a #2 seed. It really seemed like they just got the breaks when it mattered, but that's just football. The come off a buy week and beat a crappy Seahawks team. For having better running backs, their running game isn't that good. Cutler is flappable if we can get pressure on him. They play a relatively unimaginative cover 2 scheme on defense. The Bears didn't find good offensive success until after the buy week when they started focusing on quick short passes. That's their game, and we know it. Cutler just isn't that good going down field. Yes he went long last week but against what was a game against a poor defense.

Keys to the game:

Packers need to stick with the run to setup the pass, but can unload into 4 wide sets when the going get's tough. They need to keep Hester in check and not allow a big return. They need to get pressure on Cutler to keep him off balance and force the bad mistakes he's bound to make. If the Packers can shut down the Bears run game I'd say it's over.

Bears need to watch the deep part of the field, Rodgers can and will throw the long ball. Cutler needs to step it up on 3rd down and move the chains in tough spots. Also unlike Atlanta when you get penetration you need to make the sack.

Let the games begin fuckers Bears are going DOWN!

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Packers 21 - Bears 10
Cutler has the best arm of the bunch, but he is wild. He can't make mistakes against the Packers secondary, and I think he will. Plus Martz will do something stupid again like have Forte make a pass when you're winning the game. Rogers is putting up insane numbers in the playoffs and is about to be included among the elite. Green Bay made the right choice in getting rid of the old Diva and keeping the kid.

Steelers 24 - Jets 21
Jets defense will take one WR out of the game and try to create chaos around Big Ben, but that's where he plays his best. I see lots of passes to the TE and few key ones to Ward. Holmes will have a good game against his old team but Sanchez, although playing well right now, will be up against an experienced defense that has won the big games when it counted. Jets will run on Pitts again, since this is Tomlinson's (I refuse to call him LT because there is only one LT in football and he wore blue) last chance to get to the SB. It will come down to field goals, and the Jet's Folk is a horrible kicker and he'll be in the toughest stadium to kick in.
 
You can look at the stats all day long as an attempt to prove your superiority. The Chargers were first in YPG and second in PPG, yet they couldn't even win a relatively weak AFCW and missed the playoffs.

The simple fact is, there is a night and day difference between this team pre and post bye. Looking at the stats for the whole season, doesn't paint an accurate picture of how well the Bears are actually playing. Balancing out the play calling and reducing the pressure on a pretty bad offensive line was huge. It isn't a matter of Cutler being bad going down field, he simply didn't have any time to let those kind of routes develop. When he's had time, he's been really good. That said, I expect you guys to come after him hard and have the personnel to do it. I'm just curious to see what Martz has dialed up to combat it. I expect a lot of screens, hitting the hot reads on blitzes and a heavy dose of the run game.

Go ahead and count us out though. Nothing new. Everyone has doubted this team all year, predicting 6-10 (or worse), missing the playoffs, etc etc. And all the sudden we're in the NFC CG, one game away from the Super Bowl.

I'm not brazen enough to guarantee a victory, but this shit is going to be close. I'd be shocked if either team wins by 7 or more.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3pFD-xdPRE]YouTube - Higher Education Presents: Feelin So Fly Like a Cheesehead (Official Music Video) [Cascia Films][/ame]

Especially 2:20
 
And the almighty media darling Rodgers has managed to put up how many points on us this year? Look, he's a damn good QB. I'm not denying that. Go ahead and keep doubting Cutler. Dude was behind the worst offensive line in the league, got sacked 50+ times, working with inexperienced receivers in a brand new system that's complicated as fuck...and he still managed to have a pretty damn good year.

The last time we played, we ran the ball 15 times. 15 times. Forte was averaging 6 a carry or something and for some reason we went away from it and returned to the seven stop drop shit that gets Cutler killed. No idea why, but I don't expect that to happen this weekend again. Even with all that, we lost by 7 on the road in a game you guys desperately needed to win.

It would be foolish to think that this game is going to be a blowout either way. It's going to come right down to the end in my opinion. Special teams could be the deciding factor....and if it is, I like our chances.

This is going to be a great one and I can't wait.

Well how else do you debate a game, rather than hard facts? It the stats don't tell a teams story it really turns into "Your team sucks!" "No your team sucks" type of argument. The matter of fact is the Bears ARE the worse of the two teams and SHOULD get man handled by the Packers. The Packers have been consistent and in every game this year, the same can't be said for the Bears. I don't think the Bears have the mental fortitude to come back if they get down.
 
Well how else do you debate a game, rather than hard facts? It the stats don't tell a teams story it really turns into "Your team sucks!" "No your team sucks" type of argument. The matter of fact is the Bears ARE the worse of the two teams and SHOULD get man handled by the Packers. The Packers have been consistent and in every game this year, the same can't be said for the Bears. I don't think the Bears have the mental fortitude to come back if they get down.

Statistics are the most tangible way to judge a team, but they can also be misleading when not taking into account various factors. I'll give you an example. If you take the Bears points per game average pre and post bye and then stack it up against the end season totals it looks like this:

Pre Bye 18 PPG (#27)
Post Bye 23.1 PPG (#13) - 3 spots worse than you.

Anyone who has actually watched this team knows how much better we started playing after we adjusted the play calling to compensate for our weaknesses - mostly pass protection. That's the reason I said stats don't paint a complete picture when you look at the Bears numbers for the entire season.

Another example is YPG. Cutler will always have lower yards, simply because we get excellent field position compliments of Devin Hester. Shorter fields, shorter drives, less yards. There's a lot of ways to look at these numbers, that's my point.
 
Statistics are the most tangible way to judge a team, but they can also be misleading when not taking into account various factors. I'll give you an example. If you take the Bears points per game average pre and post bye and then stack it up against the end season totals it looks like this:

Pre Bye 18 PPG (#27)
Post Bye 23.1 PPG (#13) - 3 spots worse than you.

Anyone who has actually watched this team knows how much better we started playing after we adjusted the play calling to compensate for our weaknesses - mostly pass protection. That's the reason I said stats don't paint a complete picture when you look at the Bears numbers for the entire season.

Well if you want to play the manipulate the stats game here one for you,

Jay Cutler last 5 games:
6 Passing TD's, 2 Rushing TD's, 7 INT's, 79.7 QB Rating (avg), 52.78% completion percentage (avg).

Aaron Rodgers last 5 games:
11 Passing TD's, 3 Rushing TD's, 2 INT's, 104.72 QB Rating (avg), 70.38% completion percentage (avg). That is including the game he got knocked out half way through against Detroit.
 
i would like to see the J-E-T-S jets jets jets go all the way but this is what i foresee
nyj 13 pitt 24
pack 31 bears 14