Nuclear Power is safe. Fuck you if you disagree.

[oknetwork]

Yes it did, my friends father was liquidator there and he died from radiation soon after. They did not tell anyone whats happening for long time. No one told those soldiers where they going, they just loaded them on trains and made put fire down , clear debries at that plant. People were uneducated at that time wtf radiation is

 

[con.mic]

I live in Beijing China and there has been a lot of panicy voices about this nuclear problem in Japan. Right now there is a salt shortage in the whole of china, I am serious, I went to the shops and I cannot buy salt anywhere. Why? Because someone spread information that salt protects against nuclear fallout and so people have been racing to buy it up. Fucking stupid people don't realize that the amount you would have to take to give yourself any protection would actually kill you. When it comes to anything to do with nuclear issues, people just panic and become fucking stupid

 

[papajohn56]

Yes it did, my friends father was liquidator there and he died from radiation soon after. They did not tell anyone whats happening for long time. No one told those soldiers where they going, they just loaded them on trains and made put fire down , clear debries at that plant. People were uneducated at that time wtf radiation is

This video just came out a few years ago. Liquidators had one of the worst jobs of all time, and the "bio robots" on the roof as well.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCcutzXzYg]YouTube - The Chernobyl disaster - the severe days[/ame]

 

[papajohn56]

This is how the Japanese TV stations are explaining it to their kids apparently

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sakN2hSVxA]YouTube - (Subbed) Nuclear Boy[/ame]

 

[lukep]

^Leave it to the Japanese to explain things in terms of farting, poo, and diarrhea.

Awesome find.

 

[papajohn56]

Latest word is they got a powerline connected to the auxiliary cooling systems, but still need to see if those cooling systems actually work. If so, then the situation will drastically improve.

 

[1yerrot]

^Leave it to the Japanese to explain things in terms of farting, poo, and diarrhea.

Awesome find.

Wait a minute.... I'm Japanese??? Cool.

 

[csnreyes]

It was de-funded, because a lot of local people don't want it here. Which is exactly how it should be. If the majority of the people of a state don't want a something placed in their state it shouldn't be placed there.

Exactly, it was never even Obama that said no to it. People in Nevada voted no for it.

(I live in Vegas)

 

[papajohn56]

Exactly, it was never even Obama that said no to it. People in Nevada voted no for it.

(I live in Vegas)

It's not like Yucca would affect Vegas. You do realize the Nevada Test Site (nuclear bomb tests), Nellis AFB, and Area 51 are up there right? Yucca would be on the NTS/Nellis zone.

 

[ii silver ii]

Nuclear power is safe, radiation isn't.

 

[papajohn56]

Nuclear power is safe, radiation isn't.

Overexposure to radiation isn't safe. Radiation can be if used properly, i.e. CT/X-ray, cancer treatment, etc.

If a plant has proper containment, then radiation outside isn't a concern.

 

[Grindstone]

Hanford Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[csnreyes]

It's not like Yucca would affect Vegas. You do realize the Nevada Test Site (nuclear bomb tests), Nellis AFB, and Area 51 are up there right? Yucca would be on the NTS/Nellis zone.

If you've ever been to Vegas, Nellis AFB is about 20 minutes from the strip.

However, I know that it wouldn't affect me. However, people buy into hype and voted no for it.

 

[WhatupG]

Nuclear power is safe as long as nothing bad happens.

I don't fall for the "only as much radiation as an xray" bs. During xrays teh technicians always stand behind the wall and more importantly, xrays last a fraction of a second. A radiation leak is constant, 24 hours/day. Comparing a short exposure to constant exposure is silly.

From what I heard, the workers who stayed behind at chernobyl only lived 3-4 months after the accident. Doesn't sound exactly safe to me.

 

[jsherloc]

Nuclear power is safe as long as nothing bad happens.

From what I heard, the workers who stayed behind at chernobyl only lived 3-4 months after the accident. Doesn't sound exactly safe to me.

Yeah, that is really the issue at hand. Nuclear power is an energy godsend absolutely (and I agree probably our only real chance to get off this planet), but when shit goes wrong, it can go REALLY wrong. I have faith in nuclear technology, I DO NOT have faith in the human species and our ability to use this technology for strictly "energy" purposes (shit even for strictly energy purposes, we've seen the problems ESPECIALLY considering the recent increase in HUGE environmental disasters.) I really hope that no one here would argue that certain countries and their leaders REALLY have no business controlling/wielding a power source of this magnitude. These are the same people that believe certain countries should be wiped off the map, deny certain countries existence entirely, etc. Religious nutzos....look at the middle east right now. Imagine that place in 50-100 years. Now imagine that place in 200 years.

I don't think anyone is really going to argue whether or not nuclear is the future, they are going to argue whether our species will make it into the future with certain societies controlling/utilizing this technology for their own gains.....most likely at the expense of MASSIVE human lives lost. I see this becoming a MAJOR issue over the next 100 years. It already is with the whole Isreal "we've got nukes" and Iran "why can't we too...for peaceful purposes" stuff going down everyday.

Shits gonna be gettin prettyyyyy "nukeyyy" in the future.

 

[papajohn56]

Nuclear power is safe as long as nothing bad happens.

I don't fall for the "only as much radiation as an xray" bs. During xrays teh technicians always stand behind the wall and more importantly, xrays last a fraction of a second. A radiation leak is constant, 24 hours/day. Comparing a short exposure to constant exposure is silly.

From what I heard, the workers who stayed behind at chernobyl only lived 3-4 months after the accident. Doesn't sound exactly safe to me.

An x-ray is a fraction of a second...directed right at your damn body from less than a foot away. Comparing this to Chernobyl, like I've pointed out several times and so has every agency on the planet, is just ignorance.

A radiation leak is constant...but at lower doses unless you're right up on the bitch. The only reason Chernobyl was a problem was the lack of containment made fallout go everywhere. Literally. Dust got carried by the wind, graphite rods flew out in the explosion, etc.

In latest news:

"An IAEA official says the most troubled reactors appear to be relatively stable"

In other words? The extent of the damage here will be totally minimized.

 

[roclafamilia]

You mean that one that clearly says "An NRC investigation found the levels to be too low to be a danger to public health." ?

-I fail to see your point.

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. He asked what plant I live by...and that's the one I live by. Not sure what you're trying to say.

 

[johnmatrix]

So what's the deal with these spent fuel pools that are supposedly completely dried out? I have heard that if the fuel melts into one big lump of shit, and they throw water at it there's a chance there will be a chemical explosion spreading nuclear waste all over the place like a dirty bomb. I believe I heard it from some physicist that was a guest on the rachel maddow show.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0TFYOL9

The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people
Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island

 

[papajohn56]

So what's the deal with these spent fuel pools that are supposedly completely dried out? I have heard that if the fuel melts into one big lump of shit, and they throw water at it there's a chance there will be a chemical explosion spreading nuclear waste all over the place like a dirty bomb. I believe I heard it from some physicist that was a guest on the rachel maddow show.

They've been pumping water into those pools now, it'd take time for them to heat up to THAT level. The spent fuel pool is a cooling pond that the used rods go into to cool for several months, up to a year or two, prior to being stored in dry casks. Since they're still undergoing a reaction in themselves, but are no longer fuel-worthy, they can get and stay super hot.

 

[lukep]

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out. He asked what plant I live by...and that's the one I live by. Not sure what you're trying to say.

Arrgggh, Misread it. I thought you were saying there was an incident there. (Which coincidentally there was once, but it never hurt a mouse...)