swiss cheese argument
Regardless of how you lean, you are not guaranteed anything in life. If you can't budget for health care, you work around it. Free/cheap clinics exist. Colleges offer free/cheap dental/optical programs. Bankruptcy exists for those with astronomical medical bills. It's simply not our government's responsibility to make sure all citizens are given top notch medical care.
As far as the market correcting itself, it's impossible with the gov't stepping in and providing medicare/medicaid for people who litter the emergency rooms with sprained ankles. Medical salaries are out of control due to this and the market has not been given a chance to correct itself in the past few decades, in fact, it's gotten much worse.
McCain has a $5k tax credit in place for families to find their own insurance. It sounds like a better idea than free coverage for everyone, but still has it's drawbacks. For me, it's money in the bank. But for other families, it actually costs them because their current employer insurance plan now gets taxed ... but we're talking about insurance for the unemployed or those who don't fall under the 1 year employment minimum. It helps these people tremendously. These are the people currently WITHOUT any form of insurance.
Yep sounds good on the surface, but as Shady and I have discussed, this program is for EVERY child EVERY year. This means those kids with C- grades are eating up your tax dollars so they can try out college for a few semesters before dropping out. This is a massive waste of money. This hurts our country's budget much more than it helps. Even long term as 95% of the smart kids who could make a difference would find their way to college anyways through scholarships, grants or loans ... or be like me and pay their own way through college.
Put some standards on it & I'm all for it. As it stands it's just Obama trying to buy votes.
I said additional stimulus checks which are trying to be pushed through by the democrats, which is just buying votes. I wasn't for the first ones because I understand we pay for this in inflation.
W is not my fearless leader anymore than he is yours. He will cost McCain the election though since his name has become somewhat of a joke.
You are so tragically uninformed on this topic. The ones profiting directly and indirectly are democrats. FREDDIE/FANNIE was a Clinton thing to begin with. $700B bailout by a democratic congress & house. ugh!!!
The ones losing out on this due to inflation and taxation are you and I. I can't believe you are defending them!
I'm afraid you are going to need to because you have not made 1 legit argument about supporting Obama yet. Well perhaps a totally revamped $4k college policy but we both know that's just an empty promise made by Obama. Every child, every year ... what a crock of shit.
To further drive home my point ..... I'm not voting for McCain, nor did I for Bush in '04 (though I did in '00). I believe old school republican but powers in the GOP are NOT CONSERVATIVES AT ALL.
That said, I do firmly stand behind the original Republican principals and believe even the policies of McCain will do (marginally) less damage than Obama will. Extreme liberals, like Obama, will run this country into the ground.
Government health care is an unfortunate necessity. We've tried to let the market correct this, but it hasn't.
Regardless of how you lean, you are not guaranteed anything in life. If you can't budget for health care, you work around it. Free/cheap clinics exist. Colleges offer free/cheap dental/optical programs. Bankruptcy exists for those with astronomical medical bills. It's simply not our government's responsibility to make sure all citizens are given top notch medical care.
As far as the market correcting itself, it's impossible with the gov't stepping in and providing medicare/medicaid for people who litter the emergency rooms with sprained ankles. Medical salaries are out of control due to this and the market has not been given a chance to correct itself in the past few decades, in fact, it's gotten much worse.
McCain has a $5k tax credit in place for families to find their own insurance. It sounds like a better idea than free coverage for everyone, but still has it's drawbacks. For me, it's money in the bank. But for other families, it actually costs them because their current employer insurance plan now gets taxed ... but we're talking about insurance for the unemployed or those who don't fall under the 1 year employment minimum. It helps these people tremendously. These are the people currently WITHOUT any form of insurance.
$4k for free college for the poor sounds like a good idea to me. Education is the only way this country will improve long-term. As it stands now, we are at or near the bottom in too many categories in terms of education. I know they say ignorance is bliss, but damn.
Yep sounds good on the surface, but as Shady and I have discussed, this program is for EVERY child EVERY year. This means those kids with C- grades are eating up your tax dollars so they can try out college for a few semesters before dropping out. This is a massive waste of money. This hurts our country's budget much more than it helps. Even long term as 95% of the smart kids who could make a difference would find their way to college anyways through scholarships, grants or loans ... or be like me and pay their own way through college.
Put some standards on it & I'm all for it. As it stands it's just Obama trying to buy votes.
Your stimulus checks came from Bush, don't try to push that shit off on Obama. I think stimulus checks are a complete waste, and yet another example of clueless your fearless leader W is.
I said additional stimulus checks which are trying to be pushed through by the democrats, which is just buying votes. I wasn't for the first ones because I understand we pay for this in inflation.
W is not my fearless leader anymore than he is yours. He will cost McCain the election though since his name has become somewhat of a joke.
Fannie and Freddie don't give mortgages to home buyers. Banks do. Fannie and Freddie buy up existing mortgages and package them as investment securities. Go try and get a mortgage from Fannie or Freddie, and see what happens. PLEASE read Neidamyer's response, I'm not going around about this anymore. It's a democrat thing by democrats for democrats. I'm very aware they don't make the loans, but they might as well because mortgage brokers know they can lend out money at no risk to themselves because FREDDIE/FANNIE will buy them without questions
The greed of these same rich folks that you're so desparately trying to keep in a lower tax bracket (taxes should stay the same, lower for middle class, don't bite the hand that feeds you) are the ones that gave mortgages to people that couldn't afford it. There hope that they would bank of the ARM's drove them to do it, and they figured Bush would bail them out if it got to bad. They figured right.
You are so tragically uninformed on this topic. The ones profiting directly and indirectly are democrats. FREDDIE/FANNIE was a Clinton thing to begin with. $700B bailout by a democratic congress & house. ugh!!!
The ones losing out on this due to inflation and taxation are you and I. I can't believe you are defending them!
I could go on, but why? You will believe whatever makes you comfortable.
I'm afraid you are going to need to because you have not made 1 legit argument about supporting Obama yet. Well perhaps a totally revamped $4k college policy but we both know that's just an empty promise made by Obama. Every child, every year ... what a crock of shit.
To further drive home my point ..... I'm not voting for McCain, nor did I for Bush in '04 (though I did in '00). I believe old school republican but powers in the GOP are NOT CONSERVATIVES AT ALL.
That said, I do firmly stand behind the original Republican principals and believe even the policies of McCain will do (marginally) less damage than Obama will. Extreme liberals, like Obama, will run this country into the ground.