Staying faithful..

For all of you married guys or guys with serious long term girlfriends... How do you stay faithful? It's a serious problem for me, and honestly, I've NEVER been able to do it. Never married, but serious long term girlfriends that I came close to marrying a couple of times but just couldn't and I always cheated. The time I came closest to marriage I felt completely panicked and just could not commit to it... and she was a faithful and beautiful girl that many men would love to have as a wife.

This is not a troll thread.. I seriously do not understand how I could mentally commit to only sleeping with ONE girl for the rest of my LIFE. I mean.. I love females too much. Just flirting with one in the donut shop or wherever the fuck is enough to make me mentally stray. I understand the value of a good consistent partner that backs you and supports you no matter what, and I see these ultra successful men being seemingly happily married and the combination of those two things makes me think I should start considering settling down at age 31.. but fuck, what is better than a hot 23 year old new girlfriend? I love meeting new and interesting women/girls and having sex with them, and getting to know there different personalities... and relationships inevitably get stale and thus boring. The opposite of happiness is boredom.. I just don't see myself giving up the ability to participate in the "chase" even though I know it isn't always fulfilling...it's exciting. Variety is the spice of life right? It's literally in my DNA to procreate with as many females is possible... that's a pretty serious urge to suppress for an entire lifetime.

Do you guys not feel like a fucking killer whale in a tank at Sea World with your dorsal fin all flopped over and shit? That's exactly how I feel in those situations, but everyone around me is diving right in without the slightest hesitation.

Before I answer this - how old are you? (because that will affect my answer)
 


Before I answer this - how old are you? (because that will affect my answer)

31

To be clear, I'm not proud of the fact that I cheat.. I think you should respect people's emotions, but I do it anyway.

The problem is its never emotional! I'll be perfectly happy with my girl, and simply want to experience the body of others. Like if I lived in a perfect world, I could stay with the woman I care about and just go out every once in awhile and get nasty with a random hottie and then go right back to my normal life.

I can def relate to this. Girls don't exactly share that sentiment though... and yes, I've tried to pull it off.


Thing is... I feel guilty for cheating, but I don't feel guilty for having this over whelming desire to fuck every piece of ass that walks by... I'm an animal living under societal rules that are not in line with nature. Not saying we would should all act on our desires and act like a bunch of monkeys doing whatever we want... just that the urge is there. What the fuck can I do about it? In my twenties I thought it would fade with age, but now I'm starting to think the urge will be around longer than I anticipate.

It makes things really tempting and damn near impossible for me to resist if I think there is even a 20% chance that I can have the girl of the moment. And I don't suffer from shyness issues.. I will talk to any random female at the supermarket.. The urge controls me lol.
 
the fucking around is not the problem with cheating. Its the lying and deceit. Just be honest and tell them you will probably stray at some point, and that you will tell her when and if that happens.

It wont be a big deal because she's probably a whore and will have already done the same by the that time. The difference is she will defiantly lie about it. Women are way more deceitful then men so don't worry to much about it. Its your god given right as a man to do what you want, when you want, and with who you want. As you should already know you dont need to ask her you simply tell her
 
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No body will say it, but what if a Scarlet Johannson or wheoever your celeb crush is gets naked in front of you.. You gonna say, I have a girl friend?
Damn it.... Any good loooking female for that matter....

Ok.. I will just walk away, but not everyone can.. :p
 
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Semi-relevant: A letter from Ronald Reagan to his son concerning marriage:
Michael Reagan
Manhattan Beach, California
June 1971

Dear Mike:

Enclosed is the item I mentioned (with which goes a torn up IOU). I could stop here but I won't.

You've heard all the jokes that have been rousted around by all the "unhappy marrieds" and cynics. Now, in case no one has suggested it, there is another viewpoint. You have entered into the most meaningful relationship there is in all human life. It can be whatever you decide to make it.

Some men feel their masculinity can only be proven if they play out in their own life all the locker-room stories, smugly confident that what a wife doesn't know won't hurt her. The truth is, somehow, way down inside, without her ever finding lipstick on the collar or catching a man in the flimsy excuse of where he was till three A.M., a wife does know, and with that knowing, some of the magic of this relationship disappears. There are more men griping about marriage who kicked the whole thing away themselves than there can ever be wives deserving of blame. There is an old law of physics that you can only get out of a thing as much as you put in it. The man who puts into the marriage only half of what he owns will get that out. Sure, there will be moments when you will see someone or think back to an earlier time and you will be challenged to see if you can still make the grade, but let me tell you how really great is the challenge of proving your masculinity and charm with one woman for the rest of your life. Any man can find a twerp here and there who will go along with cheating, and it doesn't take all that much manhood. It does take quite a man to remain attractive and to be loved by a woman who has heard him snore, seen him unshaven, tended him while he was sick and washed his dirty underwear. Do that and keep her still feeling a warm glow and you will know some very beautiful music. If you truly love a girl, you shouldn't ever want her to feel, when she sees you greet a secretary or a girl you both know, that humiliation of wondering if she was someone who caused you to be late coming home, nor should you want any other woman to be able to meet your wife and know she was smiling behind her eyes as she looked at her, the woman you love, remembering this was the woman you rejected even momentarily for her favors.

Mike, you know better than many what an unhappy home is and what it can do to others. Now you have a chance to make it come out the way it should. There is no greater happiness for a man than approaching a door at the end of a day knowing someone on the other side of that door is waiting for the sound of his footsteps.

Love,

Dad

P.S. You'll never get in trouble if you say "I love you" at least once a day.
Letters of Note: Love, Dad
 
Humans are not biologically designed to be monogamous, despite what society has told you. Men are designed to spread their seed far and wide to increase chances of successful dispersion of genes. Women are designed to seek out most masculine and wealthy partners available which means they are always looking to upgrade. So in essence, men are designed to seek more mates, and women are designed to seek better mates, neither of which leads to monogamy.

To understand the societal theory of monogamy it is necessary to understand the original purpose of marriage. If you read the Torah you will see that a married man having sex with an unmarried woman is not considered adultery. For adultery to be committed the woman involved must be married, because the crime of adultery is actually a crime against the husband. We have perverted this original intention over time, but the basis for the law is to avoid a man giving his wealth to another mans child.

Marriage was originally a property transfer, but today it is more resembling a business partnership. You own things jointly, so should you marry don't go after the prettiest face because even the prettiest face grows old, go after the person you would most like to remain in business with for the rest of your life.

In the meantime, if you are not married, there is no such thing as cheating because you have entered into no contract. If you are married, and you need to realize your carnal desires, do so in a manner that doesn't impact your business relationship with your wife. In other words, don't get caught, don't get another woman pregnant, don't let another woman know about your assets, etc. Business is business.
 
Do what you will, but remember what goes around comes around. As an old guy at a bar once told me, if you gonna be a cat, cover your shit.

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Sounds like you're not ready for marriage... and that's fine. I didnt get married until I was 33, because I knew I wasnt ready. However, there will come a time when you value something more than a "piece of pussy".

Long term relationships are about hard work and sacrifice!

I leave you with this adage:

"The grass is NOT greener on the other side... The grass is greener where you water it the most!"
 
Humans are not biologically designed to be monogamous, despite what society has told you. Men are designed to spread their seed far and wide to increase chances of successful dispersion of genes. Women are designed to seek out most masculine and wealthy partners available which means they are always looking to upgrade. So in essence, men are designed to seek more mates, and women are designed to seek better mates, neither of which leads to monogamy.

To understand the societal theory of monogamy it is necessary to understand the original purpose of marriage. If you read the Torah you will see that a married man having sex with an unmarried woman is not considered adultery. For adultery to be committed the woman involved must be married, because the crime of adultery is actually a crime against the husband. We have perverted this original intention over time, but the basis for the law is to avoid a man giving his wealth to another mans child.

Marriage was originally a property transfer, but today it is more resembling a business partnership. You own things jointly, so should you marry don't go after the prettiest face because even the prettiest face grows old, go after the person you would most like to remain in business with for the rest of your life.

In the meantime, if you are not married, there is no such thing as cheating because you have entered into no contract. If you are married, and you need to realize your carnal desires, do so in a manner that doesn't impact your business relationship with your wife. In other words, don't get caught, don't get another woman pregnant, don't let another woman know about your assets, etc. Business is business.

^^ Well im glad thats clear , thread over
 
Everyone has that urge, and everyone catches themselves glancing in the direction of other women (or guys..whatever you are into) and that is completely normal.

Cheating, however, is a choice.

You can make the choice to take the easy road and give into temptations, just like those that cant make it through a diet or quit smoking etc. Or you can make the conscious effort to fight those urges and kick the negative habit and become a better person.

Then again, in many instances the desire to cheat is there because the relationship does not have the right foundation. If you have no emotion and no regret on toying with your partner's emotions or potentially hurting them, then it is very likely the girl is just not the right one for you. I always thought cheating or having the urge to cheat would be an issue.....never thought I could trust myself let alone trust my partner.

And then I found the right girl and it's become the easiest thing in the world.

Cheating is not a choice or an option I give myself nor one that I even consider....and that is the choice I make.

While others give into their urges and instant satisfaction/cravings of cheating due to their "need for variety" and really choose the short term benefits, I far prefer the long term and that is something that I remind myself time and time again.

Most men will always choose to keep smoking, keep eating poorly, keep cheating...keep giving into whatever that craving/urge is as the short term gain is so enjoyable.

For me....I far prefer planning and looking ahead to my 75th wedding anniversary and being one of the few, strong relationships that stand the test of time.

Can I guarantee that will happen and that nothing will go wrong? Absolutely not.

But the end goal and the long term benefits far outweigh any short term gain that can come from a night out on the town or a one-night stand with some random girl with daddy issues. Being the lone man standing at the end, respecting my wife, and being strong enough to resist those temptations is far more meaningful to me than "having a good time and sleeping around".

To each his own of course....
 
I think it's a lot easier to sit upon a Clydesdale and preach about the virtues of fidelity if you are someone who finds it rather difficult or near impossible to bed random beautiful women at will. Just saying.

The best reason I can see to get married and stay that way is the presence of children in the equation.
 
Sounds like you're not ready for marriage... and that's fine. I didnt get married until I was 33, because I knew I wasnt ready. However, there will come a time when you value something more than a "piece of pussy".

Long term relationships are about hard work and sacrifice!

I leave you with this adage:

"The grass is NOT greener on the other side... The grass is greener where you water it the most!"

This, precisely
 
Did it once with a girl I had been dating for about 6 months, this was probably 3-4 years ago. I honestly only it did just to do it because I had always been strictly monogamous growing up. The fact that the girl I was dating truly sucked at life aside, the whole experience wasn't full-filling at all. I remember thinking while fucking the girl "Wow, I'm just jerking off in this vagina right now and I could be doing this much better if she were not here." So needless to say, I have had my fill with being a cheater. Its retarded.
 
I think it's a lot easier to sit upon a Clydesdale and preach about the virtues of fidelity if you are someone who finds it rather difficult or near impossible to bed random beautiful women at will. Just saying.

Pshhh.

When will you guys realize that pussy is easy. I'm not talking about hooking up with the woman you DESIRE for that night... but RANDOM strange is EASY.

Has the vast amounts of internet porn not blunted your desire to bed all manner of random women?

Sex is great, but it really isn't everything.

OP has a abandonment issues, or conquest issues, or an empty void he's trying to fill or something but ... sex is just sex.

If bedding the random hottie is more about the conquest and the mind games than the sex then it's time for some self reflection as to why you're going to all those great lengths for something that is ultimately meaningless.

Quit putting pussy on the pedestal.