Three Stages of Jhiad

amateursurgeon said:
Depends on the country. If you do it in a theocracy, like Iran or Saudi, then sure. In a secular democracy like Turkey, probably not.
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This stuff is far better explained in the OP's film when the guy talked about the percentage of the country's islamification being directly proportional to their behavior. They became Stage 3 Jihadists in Saudi Arabia, only Stage 2 Jihadists in Turkey... This theory of his fits the facts perfectly.


amateursurgeon said:
Also, different religions have different taboos. "Buddha" isn't God, and neither is "Shiva".
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LOL; neither is Muhammad.


amateursurgeon said:
Try insulting the King in Thailand. The reason he's so revered is that many believe him to be a bodhisattva.
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HA! What a pile of horseshit!

The Thais are the least superstitious people on earth. Sure there are some crackpots that believe more like the chinese but in general you can't even find a thai on the street that believes there is any kind of god or afterlife at all. Church to them has nothing at all to do with religion, it's more like a place for troubled teens...

As for the king, they love him for his awesomely kind deeds, and if you care to read about them you'll love him just as fervently too. The man spent his life doing incredibly noble things for them... But insinuating that he's going to be reincarnated or become a god to the average thai and they'll look at you like you're a lunatic.

Where do you come up with this horseshit?


amateursurgeon said:
But to make leap and say "all muslims are terrorists in waiting", as OP inferred makes as much sense as the old radical feminist saw that "all men are rapists".
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Their book commands them to be so, & the actions of a majority fit in with those commands.

(I say majority because in different cultures they always still fit into Jihadist stages 1, 2, or 3.)

Those muslims who want nothing to do with the book and it's evil instructions are no longer muslim in my mind and I hold no ill will against at all. But the ones defending the book are literally defending their "right" to kill me, so they need to be the ones who die first.


amateursurgeon said:
For a start, the idea that "Muslims" are one group is as accurate as saying "Christians" are one group. There are Shia, Sunni and Sufis for a start, and they hate on each other as much as they they hate on outsiders.
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I'm fully aware that they hate each other, but they DO NOT hate each other as much as the infidel. You are wrong here.


amateursurgeon said:
99% of extremism today is based on Wahhabi Islam, which is like of the Westboro Baptist Church of Islam. The reason it's so widespread is because of the immense money and power of one of its biggest proponents - the House of Saud.
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100% of extremism is supported by their instruction book.

The day that all muslims burn that evil book together is the day I'll stop calling all of them extremists.

You are blind sir. It may yet be the death of you.
 


lukep said:
As for the king, they love him for his awesomely kind deeds, and if you care to read about them you'll love him just as fervently too. The man spent his life doing incredibly noble things for them...
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There's an historical tradition of bodhisattva kings in Thailand:

Bodhisatva

bodhisattva <> god. If you're planning on moving to Thailand, you should probably study Buddhism a little more closely.

100% of extremism is supported by their instruction book.
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As would Christian/Jewish Extremism be:
but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman. Chronicles 15:13
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But rebels and sinners shall be broken together,
and those who forsake the Lord shall be consumed. Isaiah 1:28
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Your point is?

EDIT: The more I read this thread, the more I can see that Islam has fully replaced Communism for you guys.
 
What I don't understand is why none of you are questioning the fact that the US has installed, supported or aided almost every single non-moderate islamic government:

1. Iran came about when the CIA deposed the democratically elected (non-Islamist) prime minister
2. Afghanistan is overun with nutcases armed with CIA-supplied weapons
3. The (Baa'thist, non-islamist) Saddam Hussein was deposed. Islamists have taken over.
4. Gaddafi was also deposed with US aid. Islamists have taken over.
5. The same with Egypt.
6. The house of Saud is only still there because of US & EU oil money.
7. Pakistan is dependant on US aid.

etc etc.

Doesn't that seem a little odd to you?
 
amateursurgeon said:
bodhisattva <> god. If you're planning on moving to Thailand, you should probably study Buddhism a little more closely.
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Ah, THAT bodhisattva... I thought the religious one that I'd heard about in temples (old school Buddhism, dealing with past lives) was what you were talking about. My bad.


amateursurgeon said:
As would Christian/Jewish Extremism be:
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You're honestly not able to see the difference there?

In Islam today, ALL muslims work towards ridding all other religions or are not considered "good muslims." The instructions that say to do violent things are still IN USE.

In Christianity and Judaism, 99% of these people never even hear the "ancient, vulgar" passages that you have just quoted. They are NOT in use anymore, because to keep them in use would require that society still be a violent, slave-loving, wife-beating, backwards society that no one could defend anymore as righteous.

Therefore, the actual instructions that muslims follow are evil & violent, while the instructions that christians and jews follow are merely designed to enslave their minds peacefully.

I'd rather be surrounded by sheep than potential murderers, thanks.


amateursurgeon said:
EDIT: The more I read this thread, the more I can see that Islam has fully replaced Communism for you guys.
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There may be something to this theory; it would certainly be a good tool for TPTB to use against the american public to help control them, like it did on 9/11.

However, since you included me in that statement, I'll remind you that I am convinced that 9/11 was committed by the white house, I refuse to listen to the MSM for more than a few seconds at a time, and I've come to my conclusions about islam based upon my own investigations alone.


It seems obvious to me that you have a problem sensing threat, just like pretty much all of Europe did. You are giving the tree jumpers way too much credit, which is exactly what they want, so they can turn your town into a 100% Muslim town.

Imagine moving a bunch of Christians to the city of Mecca and violently protesting how they are treated. What would be the result?

Yet they move to christian territories and do the same thing, driving Christians out, multiplying like bunny rabbits... Mathematically it is all but impossible for non-muslims to survive in Europe in the next century without some kind of mass bloodbath happening soon. This threat is clearly a large one.

Frankly I'm glad for the sake of all americans that we would start associating them like the red threat of communism... It'll be the one tool we have to keep them from doing the same here.

(Aside: Thailand, of course, is already dealing with some of this crap coming up from Indonesia but Thais are smart enough to see it as a threat already and actively combat it down at the southern border.)
 
lukep said:
Frankly I'm glad for the sake of all americans that we would start associating them like the red threat of communism...
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HONEST RON 2012!
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAQ1hSNZ6c&]Ron Paul courageously speaks terrorism, US Foreign Policy - YouTube[/ame]



Ron Paul: Without Hate For Islam Our Aggressive Foreign Policy Couldn’t Continue

"Ron Paul speaks out against the warmongering demagogues who attempt to link Islam with Al Qaeda. Stop fanning the flames of hate and don’t manipulate the public into supporting the continuation of an aggressive foreign policy that now threatens to bankrupt America!"
 
robjonez said:
Muslims ruled Indian subcontinent for more than 800 years. If they were killing non muslims and converting them by force there a would have been zero non muslims in India now. But as we see Hindus are still in majority in India.
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My foot. Read history and you will know what Muslims did in Indian continent. Let me tell you Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh were all a part of Indian continent. There were tons of Hindus got converted to Muslims and we hear in news that in Pakistan still many Hindu's are forcefully brutally converted to adopt Islam.

Did you ever heard any news where it says Muslims are being converted to Hindus?

Still India is having lots of them and as we have secular politicians Muslims having tons of support from them. Especially from the fucking ruling government Congress at the time. Just wait for the 2014 election in India and then ALL Muslims will know what they are.

robjonez said:
I heard Hindus think cows, monkeys and rats and sacred and they worship them and drink their urine. How true is that? Do you drink urine too?
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Again I would say get your facts straight before bullshitting anything. In Hinduism we worship cows as Lord Krishna (an Avatar of Vishnu) taught the world:-

One should never show disrespect for cows in any way nor should one feel any repugnance towards the urine and dung of a cow because these things are also pure. When cows are grazing or laying down relaxing one should never disturb or annoy them in any way. Cows should never be killed in any type of sacrifice or slaughtered in any way for food as the killing of cows constitutes the most heinous of all sins in existence.

Read more here so you can get your facts straight :-

The Sacredness of the Holy Cow
 
You should really learn your history. Muslims never rule India. Maybe you're talking about Pakistan.

robjonez said:
Muslims ruled Indian subcontinent for more than 800 years. If they were killing non muslims and converting them by force there a would have been zero non muslims in India now. But as we see Hindus are still in majority in India.
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amateursurgeon said:
How is saying "not all X are like Y" like saying playing with fire is not going to hurt you?

Also, what is this "reality" you describe, exactly? Fox news? Youtube videos? Do you actually have any first-hand extended experience of these people at all, or are you happy to let others do your opinion-forming for you?
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Let's not play with words, shall we?

I was born in Indonesia, the country with the largest population of Muslims in the world. I lived there for 18+ years.
 
Moxie said:
"Ron Paul speaks out against the warmongering demagogues who attempt to link Islam with Al Qaeda. Stop fanning the flames of hate and don’t manipulate the public into supporting the continuation of an aggressive foreign policy that now threatens to bankrupt America!"
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Even Honest Ron has an agenda... One I happen to agree with, but he couldn't very well go telling the truth about islam all over TV to achieve it, now could he?
 
Wicked Ice said:
Let's not play with words, shall we?

I was born in Indonesia, the country with the largest population of Muslims in the world. I lived there for 18+ years.
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Then you know that Indonesia is nothing like Pakistan and the rest of middle east countries. Where about were you there? Could you not get hookers and beers in all the big cities there?

Infact, if you look at all the shit that happened there in the name of religion (even the Bali bombing), you will see who benefited the most, and its not the fucking turds that bombed the place in the name of religion.

You people seems to forget, that the US Government is not the only corrupt and abusive government in the world. All of those little countries have them too, and they are equally corrupt, immoral, and abusive if not more. Religion just happen to be the easiest card to play for these people.
 
lukep said:
In Islam today, ALL muslims work towards ridding all other religions or are not considered "good muslims."
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do you realize how dumb this statement is?

this shows that you know nothing about the topic or that you are letting hate cloud your judgment. You tell me which one it is please.

all my Muslim friends are about smoking weed and picking up chicks, and some of them are practicing Muslims by the way. Meanwhile my ex-girlfriend's mother has been VERY aggressive to get me to go back to church and accept Jesus as my savior, to the point where I had to stop going to her house.

there are evangelists in every religion, but to say that ALL of them are like that is ban-worthy in my opinion. Totally stupid.
 
LukeP thought ron paul was gonna win. Why do we take this clown seriously anymore lol?
 
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