Want to be successful? Then actually work hard and finish projects

dchuk

dchuk

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I took my car in to an oil change this morning, and while I was waiting, I walked down to a McDonald's nearby to grab a cup of coffee. On the way, I walked through a group of Hispanic men waiting at a pickup spot for day labor type jobs, the thing you normally see in front of Home Depot's and such.

As I walked by, a man approached them to offer them work. Next thing I know, there are about a dozen grown men sprinting over, waving their hands in the air, begging this guy to pick them for the gig. I would imagine there was maybe $50 on the line for the day, yet these guys were pleading with this man to throw them in the back of his truck to go haul around dirt in his backyard or on a jobsite.

Now you might be thinking "man, those guys are really dedicated to making some money and getting to a better place". FUCK THAT. They're doing exactly what so many people do who get into Internet Marketing. They're jumping at the first opportunity they see, simply because it's there and they can make quick cash. They have no long term goals, no plans, nothing. They just want that quick cash.

I know that I struggle with keeping my ideas at bay, and I also know the majority of you do as well. People with a dozen projects at once will simply fail. There's just no way to have that many things going on at once and have them all get the attention required to take them to the next level and start making you actual profit.

The only way to succeed in this game is to learn and apply knowledge NOW. Stop jumping to new projects, stop chasing quick dollars, and stop wasting your time on a dozen different projects when you could instead cut it down to 2 or 3 projects that actually have a chance to get fucking finished.

99.9% on this forum will never make more than a few dollars at this shit. I mean, look at the data RIGHT NOW for wickedfire:
Currently Active Users: 1,294 (188 members and 1,106 guests)
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There are over 1100 people who haven't even taken the time to create an account and log in. To all those guests reading this right now: YOU ALREADY LOST THE GAME, QUIT NOW AND GET THE FUCK OUT.

The only guys who are really ballin' and making cash in IM are the ones you don't see very often, who don't flaunt their shit, and who put their fucking heads down and started WORKING.

I make no secrets about the fact that I had a really shitty 2009. Personal stuff, work stuff, whatever, it just wasn't good. I told myself that I will correct that, and by my birthday of 2011 (april, so about 10 months) I will be in the position in life that I want to be in.

Until then, I wake up furious that I'm not there yet. I am channeling that anger into the start of my days, and I'm hitting the grind harder and harder every day until I get to where I want to be.

There are a lot of people on this forum that are very successful and very talented. But there are also a lot of people who simply fucking are not, yet appear to be, and even act like they are. The reason this forum remains the highest quality IM forum online is because we beat the shit out of each other, constantly challenging one another to prove ourselves and man up.

If you want to succeed, you need to treat yourself just as hard. Wake up every morning and take a second and think "Have I met my goals yet?" If the answer is no, then get to fucking work.

Stop jumping from project to project. Pick something and see it through to completion.

The only people who succeed are those who stop researching and just fucking do something.

Fuck tit threads, go make money. /1000 post thread
 
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I see what you're getting at and I applaud your efforts, but the vast majority of people that really need to comprehend (not just read; comprehend) what you're saying will nod their head and maybe even say "great post" and go about how they always went along.

And tomorrow they'll be back asking why their mesothelioma ezine articles aren't making them any money.

Knowledge from experience (not endless reading) + practical application + persistence + persistence + persistence = success. It really is that simple. But most people just don't get it. They'll always look for what's just out of reach, the next big thing, the magic button to solve all their problems.
 
dchuk said:
The only people who succeed are those who stop researching and just fucking do something.
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That's a long-assed post playa. Get back to work, son. Don't waste time on here. Let me do that for you...
On the real, though, that was a good post. Very true points.

With that, I will add this:
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dchuk said:
The only way to succeed in this game is to learn and apply knowledge NOW. Stop jumping to new projects, stop chasing quick dollars, and stop wasting your time on a dozen different projects when you could instead cut it down to 2 or 3 projects that actually have a chance to get fucking finished.
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Congrats on the 1000. I'm not sure if being active here is a solution for all IMs, but it has certainly helped me. I'm no pro yet either.

Anyway, you CAN chase the quick money, if you have a long-term plan that can scale to an entire market.

What I'm working on right now is something that I will program in a modular way so that it can be easily expanded. The initial site is simply going for a quick buck, no doubt. I'm going to attack a mere sliver of the market.

But if it proves to be successful, then I can apply my API across a broader segment and take much more market share. That's the long-term plan.

Start small, if it profits, scale up. Short term monies and long-term vision.

Back to work.
 
Berto said:
Congrats on the 1000. I'm not sure if being active here is a solution for all IMs, but it has certainly helped me. I'm no pro yet either.

Anyway, you CAN chase the quick money, if you have a long-term plan that can scale to an entire market.

What I'm working on right now is something that I will program in a modular way so that it can be easily expanded. The initial site is simply going for a quick buck, no doubt. I'm going to attack a mere sliver of the market.

But if it proves to be successful, then I can apply my API across a broader segment and take much more market share. That's the long-term plan.

Start small, if it profits, scale up. Short term monies and long-term vision.

Back to work.
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As long as you actually finish what you described, then yes, that will work for you. Most people won't ever finish what they describe
 
dchuk said:
Now you might be thinking "man, those guys are really dedicated to making some money and getting to a better place". FUCK THAT. They're doing exactly what so many people do who get into Internet Marketing. They're jumping at the first opportunity they see, simply because it's there and they can make quick cash. They have no long term goals, no plans, nothing. They just want that quick cash.
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The thing with men you speak of here is that if they don't get that $50 job for the day, they probably won't eat...literally. So they have to jump on every opportunity, because their options are limited.

I see what you're saying with the comparison to those who can't see long term strategy and development with their IM efforts, but the mexican dudes are living day to day for that next truck that gives them a job. Their situation doesn't give them the luxury of developing a long term plan for their landscaping or construction efforts. Now is all that matters to most of them.
 
efeezy said:
The thing with men you speak of here is that if they don't get that $50 job for the day, they probably won't eat...literally. So they have to jump on every opportunity, because their options are limited.

I see what you're saying with the comparison to those who can't see long term strategy and development with their IM efforts, but the mexican dudes are living day to day for that next truck that gives them a job. Their situation doesn't give them the luxury of developing a long term plan for their landscaping or construction efforts. Now is all that matters to most of them.
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I agree with you to an extent, but I would imagine most guys getting into this shit and asking questions about how to make money quickly with SEO is because they can't afford PPC and have unrealistic expectations of what they can pull off online in certain time frames.

I was using that metaphor more for the "stop rushing to each new idea like its the next best thing", but good points regardless :)
 
dchuk said:
I agree with you to an extent, but I would imagine most guys getting into this shit and asking questions about how to make money quickly with SEO is because they can't afford PPC and have unrealistic expectations of what they can pull off online in certain time frames.

I was using that metaphor more for the "stop rushing to each new idea like its the next best thing", but good points regardless :)
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Gotcha. And if you want to see total proof of your theory, just pop over to Digital Point. It's amazing to see how many idiots are still posting "Please review my new mesothelioma site". And after a week of not making a dime, they'll make their "DUI Lawyer" site and then their "Loan Consolidation" blog.
 
efeezy said:
Gotcha. And if you want to see total proof of your theory, just pop over to Digital Point. It's amazing to see how many idiots are still posting "Please review my new mesothelioma site". And after a week of not making a dime, they'll make their "DUI Lawyer" site and then their "Loan Consolidation" blog.
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exactly. same with BHW and all the other places. People working off of the highest paying Adsense keywords and not thinking about what the fuck they're actually doing long term. A week goes by, they can't figure out why they aren't getting all of that broad match traffic they "researched" and then they jump to the next thing.
 
Hey, I WAS the poster child for unfinished projects and shiny object syndrome. I was fine once the project got going, then it became part of the routine, but typically there were a dozen other projects started and sitting on the sidelines. Driving me insane and earning me nothing.

The main culprit was I think big.

And thinking big fucked me up. Because big startups are a ton of work and there is always more to do. They are a bear to get out the door.

This new guy, DareDevil, on the board had a post a couple of weeks ago talking about this problem, and it did hit me between the eyes. Crystalized where I was screwing up.

I took one of my stuck projects that had grown beyond me. I cut off a small chunk of it and created a much less expensive product that launched in 2 weeks. Could have been 3 days, but 2 weeks, done and out the door was a victory for me.

Now 3 days later it is already banking. Not a great deal, but the footprint is still small. My expectations though are that it could be a 200-300 dollar a day earner. And, and holy shit this is a big and, it also will drive leads into the bigger product that has now turned into 5 smaller products nearly ready to go.

And those products all have the potential to earn.

So get your head out of the clouds that you are going to created the fuckin Taj Mahal of internet marketing and instead do a quick product. Get a win. Get some cash.

And then start working on another small product that you can sell to the buyers of the first small product.

And then another, and another, and soon you will be diversified, banking more than the dream product could have ever earned, and be on your way to success.
 
TeeBird said:
Hey, I WAS the poster child for unfinished projects and shiny object syndrome. I was fine once the project got going, then it became part of the routine, but typically there were a dozen other projects started and sitting on the sidelines. Driving me insane and earning me nothing.

The main culprit was I think big.

And thinking big fucked me up. Because big startups are a ton of work and there is always more to do. They are a bear to get out the door.

This new guy, DareDevil, on the board had a post a couple of weeks ago talking about this problem, and it did hit me between the eyes. Crystalized where I was screwing up.

I took one of my stuck projects that had grown beyond me. I cut off a small chunk of it and created a much less expensive product that launched in 2 weeks. Could have been 3 days, but 2 weeks, done and out the door was a victory for me.

Now 3 days later it is already banking. Not a great deal, but the footprint is still small. My expectations though are that it could be a 200-300 dollar a day earner. And, and holy shit this is a big and, it also will drive leads into the bigger product that has now turned into 5 smaller products nearly ready to go.

And those products all have the potential to earn.

So get your head out of the clouds that you are going to created the fuckin Taj Mahal of internet marketing and instead do a quick product. Get a win. Get some cash.

And then start working on another small product that you can sell to the buyers of the first small product.

And then another, and another, and soon you will be diversified, banking more than the dream product could have ever earned, and be on your way to success.
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sure, I agree completely with you. What's important is not trying to do 10 of those quick projects at once, because none will get finished. 1 or 2 at a time and you'll do much better in the long run
 
1. McDonalds coffee is fucking awesome

2. Sometimes you just need to force yourself to finish things. The more you reap the benefits of projects you stuck it out with, the easier it is to push through the next one.

3. My grandpa was recently diagnosed with Mesothelioma. They haven't told him much yet, but the first thing he did when he got home was look it up online. Motherfuckers!
 
dchuk said:
sure, I agree completely with you. What's important is not trying to do 10 of those quick projects at once, because none will get finished. 1 or 2 at a time and you'll do much better in the long run
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Let me play a devil's advocate here.

I agree completely that you have to start and finish projects if you want to get anywhere - no question about that.

The real question is which projects to pick, how much time/money to invest in developing them and when to decide whether to scale them or cut them off.

The very nature of affiliate marketing is you have to test a lot of stuff to find something profitable. Simply expecting that the 1 or 2 projects you are focusing on will be a hit is a dangerous thinking. Yes, you might be able to stumble upon "the next Acai", but if you have not done your homework you might end up sinking all your energies into a "mesothelioma site" type of thing. You have to know how to pick battles you can actually win, you have to adjust for changing environment (Google slaps, Facebook ad policies, merchant processing troubles, etc) and you have to know what knowledge you will gather and apply to the next project if this one fails.

So much is out of your hands that you have to think about your portfolio of projects, skills and tools that can survive any catastrophic event. I plead guilty to spreading myself too thin, I am trying to pare down my portfolio, but I still believe "betting on one thing" until you have data to know that is the right bet is a risky proposition.

How do you guys go about "picking your bets" and deciding when to pull the plug and focus on something else? Aside from scaling your proven money-makers :)
 
i agree with hard work you can accomplish all of your wildest dreams, but some tits would have been nice as well
 
DKPMO said:
How do you guys go about "picking your bets" and deciding when to pull the plug and focus on something else? Aside from scaling your proven money-makers :)
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That's why I'm saying to choose 2-3 different projects rather than just 1. Diversify those project types and you'll have a better chance of finishing them all and still get some good variety for testing.
 
kingofsp said:
3. My grandpa was recently diagnosed with Mesothelioma. They haven't told him much yet, but the first thing he did when he got home was look it up online. Motherfuckers!
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Sorry to hear about your grandfather.

Just think, if you had a Mesotheo site...you could have banked like $18.54 from his click. Sweet.
 
I asked a very smart guy how he prioritizes and he summed it up with this

"winners get attention"
 
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