Where Have The Good Men Gone?

What also makes pre-adulthood something new is its radical reversal of the sexual hierarchy. Among pre-adults, women are the first sex. They graduate from college in greater numbers (among Americans ages 25 to 34, 34% of women now have a bachelor's degree but just 27% of men), and they have higher GPAs. As most professors tell it, they also have more confidence and drive. These strengths carry women through their 20s, when they are more likely than men to be in grad school and making strides in the workplace. In a number of cities, they are even out-earning their brothers and boyfriends.
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What explains this puerile shallowness? I see it as an expression of our cultural uncertainty about the social role of men. It's been an almost universal rule of civilization that girls became women simply by reaching physical maturity, but boys had to pass a test. They needed to demonstrate courage, physical prowess or mastery of the necessary skills. The goal was to prove their competence as protectors and providers. Today, however, with women moving ahead in our advanced economy, husbands and fathers are now optional, and the qualities of character men once needed to play their roles—fortitude, stoicism, courage, fidelity—are obsolete, even a little embarrassing.
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And yet, we have Exhibit A:

http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/115466-boobs-you-diamond-ring-me-everybody-wins-right.html

Fun quote from OP in Exhibit A:

... my time in college has been one where my GPA has always placed me on the President's/Dean's List and I'm also a part of a National Honor Society. I'm smart. Just because I have confidence/guts/whatever you want to call it to post pics like that doesn't mean I am unintelligent.
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lol

Biggest laugh in that thread here.
 


Deliguy said:
pretty good article. I'd give her paper an A. I didn't really pick up any femnazi in it.
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This.

I was impressed that the author was able to articulate an accurate account of why kids left work for high school.

I'm going to quit while I am ahead though, before my misogyny comes out.
 
Picked up on this a few days ago. Here's a good counterpoint in the form of a review of the author's new book.
 
Wife: Don't fucking think so.
Kids: A fucking liability, expensive, and a pain in the ass.
Responsibilities? NONE. Put food food in my mouth, and my mouth only.
Money? IN THE BANK.

I think most modern men have realized that traditional values/goals, like a wife, kids, and a house they can't afford are fucking dumb. It's that simple.
 
i found where all the men have gone:

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Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance.
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This is a problem?

And did she say fidelity and courage are potentially embarrassing qualities?
 
johnmatrix said:
The only gripe I have with my fellow brethren is that nobody seems to be capable of anything DIY these days. I'm 24 and none of my friends are able to service their own car for example.

Tony Porter: A call to men | Video on TED.com
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I refuse to do many things simply because of liability. I'm not a licensed and bonded anything so there for I'm not legally qualified to do ANY type of that work. If something happens I'll be to blame regardless of fault. This attitude has saved me ass more than once.
 
Awesome article. Here's my take on it all:

The reason late Generation Xers and Gen Yers are the way we are is because THE BABY BOOMERS FUCKING MISERABLY FAILED US.

We may not know exactly what we want, but we sure as SHIT don't want what they got and what they tried giving us.

In Politics, the baby boomers gave us swelled governments and massive entitlements to keep the lower class complacent.

In home life, they gave us suburbia - with massive homes and cars we couldn't afford (but somehow we're now entitled to) and working mothers who are no longer taking care of the kids. This then gave us further dependence upon foreign oil.

In health, they latched on to the "low-fat", western diet and a fuck ton of cheap, processed/fake food. They are now dying in droves, or so doped up on medication that they cannot leave their jobs until the government says they can, further entrenching the current healthcare establishment.

In foreign affairs, they gave us failure after failure - enemy-less, nameless wars that cannot be won or lost. Wars that we are involved in because of all of the other bullet points I've listed here.

In business, they are doing their best to squash the American Dream - entrepreneurship. I'm pretty sure it wasn't such a sin in the 1950s to want to make a profit. Now I'm evil if I do.

In education, they gave us standardized tests, monopolistic labor unions, and ridiculous college prices that put you so far in debt that you have no choice but to become a slave to the system listed above.

I could go on and on.

My point is, whether you like Ron Paul or the ideals that Obama was "supposed" to fight for, our generation fucking hates this establishment and wants something different. We might not know what -- but it sure as hell isn't going to be modeled after them.
 
onlinemoniez said:
I think most modern men have realized that traditional values/goals, like a wife, kids, and a house they can't afford are fucking dumb. It's that simple.
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You have a point. If it wasn't for women I think the economy would be in much better shape now. Whenever I have heard of someone overstretching themselves to get a mortgage 9 times out of 10 there was a woman in the background pushing for it. Women are more fixated on status than men, the best holidays, the best schools for the kids, the best house, which they probably can't afford, all to impress people they don't like.

Plus being a single man has big advantages. You can listen to decent music instead of "r and b". You don't have to obsessively clean surfaces if they get the tiniest speck of dirt on. No worrying about useless shit like greetings cards (if it wasn't for women this industry would certainly collapse overnight).
 
The social commentary is all well and good and everything, but there is something this author fails to realize: Women that give up on these adolescent men and move on are kidding themselves. If your boyfriend would rather play video games than spend time with you, then you aren't going to show him anything by leaving. You'll be lucky if he notices. Plus, he has already planted his flag in you several times, and when he sees you out with your new "adult" boyfriend, he will feel vastly superior to him in every way, because the new guy is the one that got duped into putting up with you.

When men like this eventually meet a woman that actually stands out from the rest of the girls who are hypnotized by Sex and the City and all those "never gonna happen" scenarios, it is not uncommon for them to "grow up." To expect guys who are young and having a shit load of fun to suddenly assimilate into some chick's version of adulthood just because she's not getting any younger and her dating pool is shrinking in contrast to her waist size, that pisses me right off.

There, Guerilla. I injected enough misogyny for the both of us.
 
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lol...

"I Don't Care About Your Band"

I don’t care about your shoe collection.

"Guys talk about 'Star Wars' like it's not a movie made for people half their age"

Star Wars is more creative than anything that has ever come out of your mouth or brain. Many women talk about shopping like it’s more important than helping starving children in Ethopia, so shut up.

“a guy's idea of a perfect night is a hang around the PlayStation with his bandmates”

Better than listening to you gripe about what someone said about you at work or how someone cut you off in traffic. You've probably wasted more hours blabbing on the phone than most guys have spent enjoying video games.

“or a trip to Vegas with his college friends.”

Yea, I HATE having fun. I’d rather sit at home with your boring butt and watch a soap opera and listen to your dumb opinions.

“Where have the good men gone?”

This is such a dumb question. Do you realize men feel the same way? Many girls have STDs, multiple broken relationships; they cheat and lie like crazy, treat people better than them like garbage, and are absolute attention *bleeps* on every level. Most women are so insecure, gripe about their problems in life, like the size of their butt, they hate themselves and the girl next to them. They hate creativity in all forms and see any pursuit of passions outside of monetary value as worthless. Most women out of college are gold diggers or have unrealistic expectations of men. At least men value each other based on the bonds they form from loyalty, not on their "success".

You bring up Knocked Up, as if we aren’t allowed good comedies anymore. What the hell, should all comedies be about? A bunch of mature, responsible adults, having problems? Oh boy! Let me get the popcorn out for that one.

The worst is most women like you don’t even live up to the same standard that they apply to men. They want a man to have a good job, be responsible, be mature, stable, etc, but God forbid that this apply to them. The truth is most women like you do NOT deserve this man, he deserves better. So, unless you’re a woman making 80k+ a year, with multiple degrees, fun as hell, and in a good position in life, you are probably going to end up with your equivalent, and that’s a normal guy who plays video games, loves Star Wars, and still drinks with his college buddies. Boo hoo, get over it. If you don’t like it, maybe you will get lucky and score a desperate ugly Doctor.

“What explains this puerile shallowness? I see it as an expression of our cultural uncertainty about the social role of men.”

First off, you’re using big words you don’t understand how to use correctly. Secondly, you’re just trying to sound smart here without making a point. I don’t know what “shallowness” has to do with having fun and enjoying life. Stop being such a ballbuster.

If you want the kind of guy who “drove you home as a kid” then I want the kind of woman he was married to. You know, a mature, responsible woman, probably a virgin till marriage, a homemaker, good with kids, knows how to cook, etc. Yea, but you probably think all that sounds horrible, like it’s enslaving a woman. You probably hate housework, can’t cook, and have slept with around 20 guys, all in the pursuit to find “what you want”. You probably considered yourself a “modern liberated woman”. Well guess how men feel? We don’t want to drive a stupid min-van, wear white dress shirts with pocket protectors, and do nothing but build desks and kites for our 10 sons when we get home. If you want to go back to the 50’s, that’s fine with me, but if I have to go back to that lifestyle then so are you, and that means dinner on the table by 5.
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Actually - isn't there a simple fix for this, which women have been doing for millennia, that appears to have passed this author by?

Date older men.

In UK, it's unusual for middle class men OR women to settle down before 30.

I spent my 20s getting absolutely wasted, and having a whale of a time. My wife did the same. The girl I was with age 25 was a fucking nightmare, marrying her would have been a HUGE mistake. The only friends who got married before age 28 are divorced.

30s is your time to settle down, not 20s. 20s is for fucking around and enjoying yourself. If you marry a 25 year old, you're asking for them to get bored of you in 10 years and pick up where they left off.
 
turbolapp said:
Man that's a terrible title for what turned out to be a decent and well written article about the evolution of social change among US males in the last 60 years. I'm not sure what "Good" has to do with any of that and is a certainly subjective adjective.

Feckin Titlebait.
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decent and well written? all the social change that occurred within the last 60 years that is bad in regards to males going down in stature and dominance is the direct result of the feminist movement.

things you girls are responsible for:

Media Control
corruption in our family courts/divorce courts
and our Government

just to name a few.

If you are unhappy take a good look in the mirror to see who is responsible.

But don't worry us Males will expose your feminist pretty soon and your time will be over.
 
Trying to be the type of man that women claim is missing will leave you with a bad case of dry dick.
 
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