Where to see USA?

DewChugr said:
Mammoth is quite it ways East of this route. I've been there a couple of times and iIt's not terribly exciting unless you take one of the longer wild trips. The short touristy cave tours aren't that exciting and I certainly wouldn't go for that unless I was in the area. An extra day in the GSMNP checking out some waterfalls would be better if you're going through that area. I haven't been to any around GSMNP, but there are some listed on google maps. Go for a wild tour wherever you go if you can and if you aren't claustrophobic.

If you do go there the Corvette factory and museum are right there in Bowling Green if you're into that stuff.
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Mammoth isn't likely to happen at this point, but I may pop up a night or two to go camping/hiking up there, if I get bored of Nashville. I don't especially want to do any backtracking northward though. I already plan to spend some time in the Smokys, but I just got back from the Finger Lakes and had my fill of waterfalls.

EDIT: I'm going to start my own thread so I don't encroach on -God-'s.

@-God- I'd definitely skip over most of the midwest. As laid out in dewchugrs route, focus on exploring the interesting cities and natural wonders the country has to offer, and you can't go wrong. Don't forget that everything is way more spread out over here, with LOTS of boring shit in between.
 


Lithium. said:
I'd like to visit the U.S just to get near/explore the path around Area 51, looks fucking sick.
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it's actually just a huge empty high desert. Don't get me wrong, I love the desert, but it's really not much to see. If you get close enough to see anything good, they'll just shoot you.

GOD

My vote is try and hit the major cities. Driving across the south in summer will be hot as holy fuck (but maybe you want to experience that since you're from cold ass england). But definitely hit Boston, New York, DC, Chicago (and a baseball game in one of those towns too, good ball parks). In California, San Diego is always fun in the summer, LA has Hollywood and beaches, and San Fran has lots of touristy stuff.
 
(O_o) said:
My favorites:

Mollys at the Market Molly's at the Market
Oz on Bourbon St. (Lol jk dont go there unless you're a tranny or gay)
Bank Street Bar (dive bar)
Finn McCools
The Saint (cool dive bar) The Saint Bar & Lounge 961 St. Mary, New Orleans 70130
Pravada (awesome Russian goth bar)
Pirate's Alley Bar (Pretty sure its one of the few bars in the US thats literally 10 feet away from a Church) PIRATES ALLEY CAFE' and Absinthe House
Tipitina's
One Eye'd Jacks (good venue for punk/metal shows)
Pat O'Brien's
The Bulldog on Frenchmen St. (50+ different beers on tab)
Parasols RIP now called Tracey's Traceys | Original Irish Channel Bar on Magazine and Third
Yuki (awesome Japanese bar)
The Avenue Pub
The Dungeon (wild goth/fetish bar. Doesnt even open until 11pm-12am. Many nights I have left here just trying to fathom what I witnessed that night. Ive seen a woman get 100% naked and give a guy a BJ and no one cared, seen a guy pull out a knife and get beat down, and tons of other crazy shit go down) Ye Olde Original Dungeon French Quarter New Orleans, LA - New Orleans Nightlife

Yuma hit em up with any awesome ones im missing ;D
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The Saint is very cool- it is owned by the Bassist for White Zombie. And yes, she does hang there and she is fucking hotter in person! Lots of Bohemian pussy in here to be picked up for sure. HOWEVER - the bartenderesses can be soup nazi'ish if you annoy them... so behave or leave. ALSO- The area is in a rough hood and I do mean rough, so be careful in the area away from the bar.

The Bulldog - There are three of these actually. The one with the best bitches is the Magazine Street location: 3236 Magazine Street.

SNAKE & JAKE'S CHRISTMAS CLUB LOUNGE. 7612 Oak St. New Orleans, LA This place is rocking - and not too many tourists know about it. I have ran into Nic Cage, John Goodman (doing scarface size lines of coke on the bar), John Cusack and one of them Kardashian bitches (can't remember which one)here. Very small and doesn't start getting live until Midnight or later.

Maple Leaf - 8316 Oak Street New Orleans, LA (Another cool place, can be full of pretentious and snooty no-local women) Great live music though.

Apple Barrel Bar - 609 Frenchmen Street New Orleans, LA

Vaughan's Lounge- 4229 Dauphine St New Orleans, Louisiana ( as seen on Treme) Very cool place.

Mick's Irish Pub - 4801 Bienville St New Orleans, LA

Chickie Wah Wah- 2828 Canal Street New Orleans, LA

The King Pin Bar 1307 Lyons Street New Orleans, Louisiana

The Circle Bar - 1032 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans, LA This is the mother of all hipster bars IMO. Lots of skinny jeans and black tee's in here.

For the truly adventurous - The Country Club - Clothing Optional Pool,Hot Tub and Restaurant (better keep your pantsesses on in the restaurant though). http://www.thecountryclubneworleans.com 634 Louisa St (504) 945-0742
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned historic Route 66. It was billed as the first coast to coast highway, although it actually spans the distance from Chicago to Santa Monica. You'd have to take the I-80 from NJ to get to it.

There are probably lots of dive bars with loose women along the historic highway. Lots of interesting sites, too.

Route 66 - Traveling the Mother Road

Some of the most amazing highway views I ever saw were on I-70 traveling from Denver through Utah. Ditto Roadside America as a great resource.
 
Yuma504 said:
The Saint is very cool- it is owned by the Bassist for White Zombie. And yes, she does hang there and she is fucking hotter in person! Lots of Bohemian pussy in here to be picked up for sure. HOWEVER - the bartenderesses can be soup nazi'ish if you annoy them... so behave or leave. ALSO- The area is in a rough hood and I do mean rough, so be careful in the area away from the bar.

The Bulldog - There are three of these actually. The one with the best bitches is the Magazine Street location: 3236 Magazine Street.

SNAKE & JAKE'S CHRISTMAS CLUB LOUNGE. 7612 Oak St. New Orleans, LA This place is rocking - and not too many tourists know about it. I have ran into Nic Cage, John Goodman (doing scarface size lines of coke on the bar), John Cusack and one of them Kardashian bitches (can't remember which one)here. Very small and doesn't start getting live until Midnight or later.

Maple Leaf - 8316 Oak Street New Orleans, LA (Another cool place, can be full of pretentious and snooty no-local women) Great live music though.

Apple Barrel Bar - 609 Frenchmen Street New Orleans, LA

Vaughan's Lounge- 4229 Dauphine St New Orleans, Louisiana ( as seen on Treme) Very cool place.

Mick's Irish Pub - 4801 Bienville St New Orleans, LA

Chickie Wah Wah- 2828 Canal Street New Orleans, LA

The King Pin Bar 1307 Lyons Street New Orleans, Louisiana

The Circle Bar - 1032 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans, LA This is the mother of all hipster bars IMO. Lots of skinny jeans and black tee's in here.

For the truly adventurous - The Country Club - Clothing Optional Pool,Hot Tub and Restaurant (better keep your pantsesses on in the restaurant though). http://www.thecountryclubneworleans.com 634 Louisa St (504) 945-0742
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I have yet to have a good experience at The Saint. There's something about that place.
I spent way too much money at Snake'n'Jakes, and I would argue that the place doesn't get started until at least after 2am.

Had nothing but good experiences at The Kingpin and the Maple Leaf. I like sitting outside at the bulldog on maple when the weather is decent.

The circle bar is a dirty shithole with a constant stream of pathetic and terrible wannabe bands. the last time i was there the fuckface lead singer of the band tried to chug a can of pbr, didn't make it all in the right hole, and sprayed the crowd down. fuckin nasty.
 
BlueYonder said:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned historic Route 66. It was billed as the first coast to coast highway, although it actually spans the distance from Chicago to Santa Monica. You'd have to take the I-80 from NJ to get to it.

There are probably lots of dive bars with loose women along the historic highway. Lots of interesting sites, too.

Route 66 - Traveling the Mother Road

Some of the most amazing highway views I ever saw were on I-70 traveling from Denver through Utah. Ditto Roadside America as a great resource.
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I don't know that this is worth the effort. I believe so many of the things that made 66 great, drive ins, small hotels, diners, etc are gone and it's nothing like it was pre-interstate. The speed limit is lower, and all the small towns would slow him way down. That being said, the views are much more scenic and you get a much better feel for the real America in the small and mid sized towns you will travel through.

I'd recommend once you plan where you want to go look for stretches of two lane that look like they would be fun and follow them for a while. River roads, like along the Mississippi, barring the leves arround New Orleans can be great. The blue ridge parkway, A1-A in Florida, etc are great drives. There's no better way to see the mountains than a two lane, but it will take WAY longer. Example, independence pass and million dollar highway in Colorado and beartooth highway in Montana and monument valley (might be on rt 66) in Utah.

Practice driving on the right before you come over. :laughing-smiley-007
 
hunmik said:
Start with driving across Nebraska, after that pretty much everything else will look interesting.
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I was gonna say Wisconsin :-)

Stop at Jim's Steaks in Philly and eat an authentic cheese steak with roasted red chillies...nothing like it.
 
id say start in ny, hit up the night life there for about 2 nights tops, then go to dc and hit it one night from there drive straight to miami, party there for a couple days but not too long cause you will go broke. drive back up and head west stoppin gin austin, texas, very fun city..then drive to phoenix, az and party there for a few nights, many hot birds as you call them...from there head west to san diego and party in the gas lamp district, then go up to OC and party in newport beach for a night then, head to LA and party one night in hermosa beach, then another night in hollywood, then another in santamonica. then head up to san fran if time still permits
 
NYC - Hit Cielo, eat at the hilal cart on 53 and avenue of the americas, eat a slice at the original rays, catch a broadway show, hang out in washington square park, have a scotch at the highlands. If you have extra time go take in some of the street art in Brooklyn.

Head South to DC / Baltimore - Eat crabs on the riverfront, go to the smithsonian and air and space. Take a picture infront of the washington monument like its your cock. Dont know if Buzz is still going on but there is always some sick music.

Head south (see blue ridge parkway recomendation above) go to Asheville, stay downtown, go to bobo on lexington, see biltmore, eat at bouchons. If you are really crazy hike from Asheville to wolf laural on the AT, great 2 day hike.

Head south - goto atlanta got to anything the household or liquified guys are throwing, sick music, great people. Little 5 points has a latin restaurant on euclid that makes its own chocolate and churros unfucking real. Virginia Highlands is a bit yuppie but I like it.

Head south. Stop in Gainesville (make sure its during a game weekend, plan ahead cause rooms are going to be a bitch) watch the gators kick the shit out of whoever :). See amazingly hot girls, go pick up cougars at Lilians.

Orlando - Stay at the Wilderness Lodge at Disney and eat dinner with the Giraffes (sp). Go to Universal and ride the Hulk and Dualing Dragons (not called something else) IF you like snorkeling go to Discovery Cove, dont get the Dolphin portion, just snorkel in the lagoon, its nuts.

Sarasota / Tampa or Strait to Miami
If you go to SRQ go to Siesta Key Beach and pick up girls, drink at the Daquri Deck. Go see the Dali museam in St Pete. If you go to Miami STAY THE FUCK OFF THE BEACH. Its not like it used to be, sorry. Maybe 1 night but the real action is downtown. Vagabond, Wynwood for art and cool chicks, White Room (not sure they are still open)

I would skip the keys, woman wise its hit or miss.

Drive back up, get on 98 off of 75 and take 98 through to Mobile. (if you stop along the way, I would hit Talahassee and redo the Gainesville experience)

Then hit Nola. Stay off Bourbon right outside the quarter. All the other NOLA recomendations you have gotten are strait up. Hit Cafe Du Monde even though its touristy. EAT AT STELLAS AND BROTHERS.

Then Austin (I know little about Texas) I did San Antonio riverwalk once, I liked it.

Drive through to Alamagordo (IT WILL BE HOT BUT DRY) go see White Sands National Monument. (if you have the stuff camp in Oliver Lee StatePark, otherwise I dont know hotels) Bring a decent camera. Then head north to Santa Fe. Cool fucking town. Eat LEGIT mexican. If the person cooking isnt old, heavy and only speaks spanish DONT EAT THERE.

Denver (stop in Colorado Springs for a night if you like to Hike - check out Garden of the Gods, Chyanne Canyon) Then drive to Denver, go to The Church, go to boulder, hang out on Pearl Street. Drive across the continental divide down through Utah. It will be to hot to do Canyon Lands. Drive down through Zion National Park. Get out of your car and off trail. Best pictures I have ever taken. Sand Dunes National park is on the way up to Denver by off the beaten path, if your not a hiker skip it.

VEGAS (you wont remember :) )
Gamble DOWNTOWN not on the strip. Its cheaper and better odds.
Stay on the strip, tip your checkin person and ask if they have any upgrades. Gamble one night on the strip for prettier waitresses and for the experience.

Drive from Vegas to San Fran, its a long trip but if you miss San Fran and only do LA you miss 1/2 the fun. Do wine country. Helzeburg(sp) is my favorite region. Smaller Vinyards, lots on Pinot. San Fran... Stay at the W or St Regis. Eat at a small italizn place next to the stinking rose (I cant remember the name right now) CHEAP and AMAZING. Dont get lost in the tenderloin, make friends with someone that knows oakland. There is a park by a dog track where they is some of the coolest sclulpture and street art I have seen. On a clear day the shot of the Golden Gate is money. Go to Bourbon and Branch. Ride a street car.

San Fran to LA... your friend will help you with LA.
 
Wall Drug is cool if you happened to be there cause you just checked out the Badlands. Otherwise, it is absolutely not worth going out of your way to see. Just a bunch of shitty shops connected to each other.

You know you want to hop on a double decker bus in Hollywood and see the homes of the stars. Don't fight it.
 
North Dakota has the worlds largest buffalo.

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DewChugr said:
I don't know that this is worth the effort. I believe so many of the things that made 66 great, drive ins, small hotels, diners, etc are gone and it's nothing like it was pre-interstate. The speed limit is lower, and all the small towns would slow him way down. That being said, the views are much more scenic and you get a much better feel for the real America in the small and mid sized towns you will travel through.

I'd recommend once you plan where you want to go look for stretches of two lane that look like they would be fun and follow them for a while. River roads, like along the Mississippi, barring the leves arround New Orleans can be great. The blue ridge parkway, A1-A in Florida, etc are great drives. There's no better way to see the mountains than a two lane, but it will take WAY longer. Example, independence pass and million dollar highway in Colorado and beartooth highway in Montana and monument valley (might be on rt 66) in Utah.

Practice driving on the right before you come over. :laughing-smiley-007
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It's up to Mr. God and his friend, but I think there are some great stops along 66, including the Wigwam Motel and the Cadillac Ranch. Here's a slide show with the best features in each state on the road:

The Mother Road: Historic Route 66: Photo Slideshow

Some parts of the trail look challenging, but they're not in a hurry to get across. God, your English accent guarantees you'll spread some seed. American girls LOVE it! :love-smiley-013:
 
PACORP said:
Drive through to Alamagordo (IT WILL BE HOT BUT DRY) go see White Sands National Monument. (if you have the stuff camp in Oliver Lee StatePark, otherwise I dont know hotels) Bring a decent camera. Then head north to Santa Fe. Cool fucking town. Eat LEGIT mexican. If the person cooking isnt old, heavy and only speaks spanish DONT EAT THERE.

Denver (stop in Colorado Springs for a night if you like to Hike - check out Garden of the Gods, Chyanne Canyon) Then drive to Denver, go to The Church, go to boulder, hang out on Pearl Street. Drive across the continental divide down through Utah. It will be to hot to do Canyon Lands. Drive down through Zion National Park. Get out of your car and off trail. Best pictures I have ever taken. Sand Dunes National park is on the way up to Denver by off the beaten path, if your not a hiker skip it.
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There used to be a good Mex place in Santa Fe in an old rail station. IMO, Santa Fe is a drive through, eat, see the town a little and head out.

From there you could go up to Durango (I like the Ore House), hit Mesa Verde NP, take the Durango-Silverton Railroad It's pricey, but long and very scenic. Stay in Durango (or Grand Junction). If you can find a place that does 4x4 trips take one on the black bear road, do NOT attempt to drive this yourself. From there take the million dollar highway up to grand junction, head over to aspen (Very expensive town, Stop at the Maroon Bells), head over independence pass, past twin lakes and up through Leadville. Stay in Frisco/Dillon at the Best Western, cheap but nice) There's a pub on the main street, south side, lower level that's good. Ask Dee at BW where to go. From there, leave early and head East on 70 to Empire and head North, over the pass, through Winter Park, up past Granby to RMNP. Go through the park and stay in Estes Park. Don't eat at the popular BBQ place on the West side of town. Drive up into the park to sheep lake at dusk to see the elk, watch out for them around the edges of town as well. Warning, a lot of the hotels have had a habit of using old photos so look for reviews. There are some cabins East of town right at the bridge that are nothing fancy, but reasonable and clean. The have deck overlooking the river with a gas grill so get some steaks. If it were me I'd skip Denver, but if you want to go head from Estes Park to Denver.

As far as hiking, you can't go wrong in Co. There is so much national forest you can just about pull off any road and hike. At Maroon Bells (most photographed spot in Co.) hike around the right side of the lake, past it and keep going about 1.5 miles total. You have to take a bus from a lot in Aspen until early Sept do to parking limitations. If you're camping stay at one of the sites along the river on the way in.

Of course there is great hiking in RMNP, Bear Lake trail is easy, but get a map or talk to rangers. Keep in mind that you are used to oxygen near sea level, not 7-12 thousand feet.

After I left RMNP I'd head down to Loveland and pick up 25 North to Cheyenne. From there head up to Grand Teton NP either stay in Jackson or camp in the park at Jenny Lake or Gross Ventre. Eat at Bubbas in Jackson. If you're a hiker the Tetons can't be beat, day hike hermitage point or take the boat across Jenny Lake and hike up Cascade Canyon as far as you want and head back down. If you're more adventurous (backpacking) take the tram at Jackson Hole up and backpack the 35 miles north and end at Jenny Lake. NG rated this as the top trek in the country, the scenery is beyond compare, reservations required.

From there head up to Yellowstone. You will see wild animals unlike anything in Europe. Stay at Old Faithful inn or camp at Norris (centraly located, get a spot by the river). Minimum two days in Yellowstone, one day drive the lower loop, the other day drive the upper loop. On the upper loop be sure to take a side trip up the Lamar Valley. Be sure to get started early in the morning for a better chance of spotting wolves. Make sure to take the short walk down to lower Yellowstone Falls, go to the North Side, not artist point, unless you do both.

When Hiking in the Tetons and Yellowstone be sure you know and practice bear safety. Griz are not as common in the Tetons as Yellowstone.

The Beartooth highway, one of the most scenic roads in the country is just North of Yellowstone.

Utah has some great parks, arches, zion, canyonlands, bryce, etc. If you go to Zion, be sure to do the Angels Landing hike, look it up. From there hit the Grand Canyon.
 
Once you're in LA, don't miss the South Bay. Tourists always hit up Hollywood, Malibu, Santa Monica, and Venice... which are all cool in their own right. But the Manhattan Beach and Hermosa Beach piers are quite a different type of fun.

I'd personally find a way to get to Austin too, but that'd send you on the southern route. Maybe Colorado then Texas? Texas is a BIG fuckin state tho
 
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