who do I trust, Adwords or Advaliant?

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I asked my AM at Advaliant to put Pixel so I can track conversion from Adwords.

Yesterday, Google showed 9 conversion, Advaliant 7

Today, google 1 so far, 0 at advaliant.

I emailed AM yesterday, he said it is Adwords not tracking correctly..

Who should I trust..?

I need new AM though..not helping and not friendly..shit..ok I am small guy but WTF..such an asshole..
 


Setup another landing page that uses a different subid and submit a fake lead, see if it registers on advaliant.
 
searchfordeal said:
I asked my AM at Advaliant to put Pixel so I can track conversion from Adwords.

Yesterday, Google showed 9 conversion, Advaliant 7

Today, google 1 so far, 0 at advaliant.

I emailed AM yesterday, he said it is Adwords not tracking correctly..

Who should I trust..?

I need new AM though..not helping and not friendly..shit..ok I am small guy but WTF..such an asshole..
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you're right, same thing happened to me. check out my blog post (quoted below). now that more people are coming forward...i am getting more nervous. who is your AM by the way...does it happen to start with an R? :)

acemenace said:
You are not the only one - Second Attempt at PPC Affiliate Marketing
I think he is on this forum - mberman who runs that blog
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yep...that's my blog:)
 
couple other things to note:

1. i contacted adwords rep and they said their tracking NEVER double counts conversions...1 click = 1 conversion. (even if they reload the "thank you" page)

2. i have instances where adwords reports 4 separate keywords triggering conversions, where advaliant only reports 3...and that means it is impossible for 1 of them to be double counted (pigeon hole theory).

3. my AM said he is working on getting me "bonus" conversions for the ones i lost...but i dont know if it will happen.
 
mberman84 said:
3. my AM said he is working on getting me "bonus" conversions for the ones i lost...but i dont know if it will happen.
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Haha, and do you realize how they are able to get you these so called "bonus" conversions?

From the shaving pile of course ;)
 
my am such an hard ass..I asked him payout raise many time..just don't bother to reply my email...His name start with Ric...some one getting paide $30 per lead..

least you got bonus, my AM blames to Adwords...Fucking retarded..many company I worked with gave me money + some even though they not sure...
 
pocketrockets said:
Haha, and do you realize how they are able to get you these so called "bonus" conversions?

From the shaving pile of course ;)
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damn...well as long as I get the conversions...i could care less about the rest of you guys:) JK!

can you explain why scrubbing matters in CPS? why would they scrub a sale? sale=money no matter what right?
 
searchfordeal said:
my am such an hard ass..I asked him payout raise many time..just don't bother to reply my email...His name start with Ric...some one getting paide $30 per lead..

least you got bonus, my AM blames to Adwords...Fucking retarded..many company I worked with gave me money + some even though they not sure...
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Ric...yea...me too.

He blamed Adwords for me as well...but you just have to present your case. I haven't gotten a bonus yet though...we'll see. Either way i probably wont be using advaliant again.
 
BTW...I wouldn't show Advaliant this thread yet...until this whole thing is sorted out. If they know we are flaming them...they will be less willing to help us.
 
mberman84 said:
BTW...I wouldn't show Advaliant this thread yet...until this whole thing is sorted out. If they know we are flaming them...they will be less willing to help us.
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You do realize that there are Advaliant AM's here that read and post often?
 
mberman84 said:
damn...well as long as I get the conversions...i could care less about the rest of you guys:) JK!

can you explain why scrubbing matters in CPS? why would they scrub a sale? sale=money no matter what right?
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Because it makes them more money when they shave.

Also, isn't that offer a trial? Maybe they didn't have enough people convert to paid signups?
 
if your AM is Geoff...he always seemed like a very trustworthy AM to me. The only problem I have ever had with Advaliant is sometimes I am not wired on the correct day. Just contact him, I think even their CEO Jivan Manhas is a member here on WF.
 
bjgolf said:
if your AM is Geoff...he always seemed like a very trustworthy AM to me. The only problem I have ever had with Advaliant is sometimes I am not wired on the correct day. Just contact him, I think even their CEO Jivan Manhas is a member here on WF.
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nah. he's not my AM. my AM has been good so far. i got my wire on the right day.
 
I cannot testify as to their tracking. I know that in my experience, it has always seemed fine. I get a higher EPC on their offers than on similar competing networks. Numbers always seem to seem realistic. Often better than I would expect. Some offers have off times for some reason, I'll admit. But overall, I trust em.
 
xmcp123 said:
I cannot testify as to their tracking. I know that in my experience, it has always seemed fine. I get a higher EPC on their offers than on similar competing networks. Numbers always seem to seem realistic. Often better than I would expect. Some offers have off times for some reason, I'll admit. But overall, I trust em.
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I have also noticed those "off" times. :error:
 
Rage9 said:
I have also noticed those "off" times. :error:
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Yeah. It's hard for me to gauge because I have unpredictable traffic(surges and such on random days. One source sends between 50 clicks 3k clicks a day, to give you an idea). But I do know this. *one* of their "sale" campaigns is converting for me at 1:10 today.
I rarely see that anywhere else.
Other campaigns are going at 1:15.

Also imo sales campaigns fluctuate on epc more than lead based. But maybe that's just me.
 
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